October 22, 2013 - A. Scott Berg

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Stephen weighs in on lions and tigers, KFC invents the Go Cup, and A. Scott Berg discusses his book, "Wilson."

NIGHT A NEW WAY TO EAT ONTHE GO.

TRACHEOTOMIES AREN'T JUST FORBREATHING ANYMORE.

THEN IT'S CHRISTMAS GIFT SEASON.

I KNOW WHO'S BEEN NAUGHTY, WHO'SBEEN NICE, AND THANKS TO THE

N.S.A., EVERYTHING ELSE.

( LAUGHTER )AND MY GUEST, A. SCOTT BERG, THE

PULITZER PRIZE-WINNING AUTHORWITH A NEW BIOGRAPHY ON WOODROW

WILSON.

TWO MILLION FOR LINCOLN, ONE FORWILSON.

RESEARCH VERSION DEVELOPED ABREATHALYZER FOR MARIJUANA.

AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN TURNEDINTO A BONG.

THIS IS THE "COLBERT REPORT.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

STEPHEN!

STEPHEN!

STEPHEN!

STEPHEN!

STEPHEN!

STEPHEN.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

WELCOME TO THE REPORT.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) Y THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT THIS AUDIENCE.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT YOU PEOPLE, BUT RIGHT NOW I AM FIGHTING A VERY STRONG URGE TO

COME OUT THERE AND GIVE YOU BIG HUGS.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) FOLKS, I HAVE TO TELL YOU AT HOME.

THESE PEOPLE SMELL FANTASTIC.

( APPLAUSE ) NOW, NATION AS A TRADITIONALIST WHO SEES THE WORLD WITH COMMONSENSE CLARITY, THESE DAYS

A LOT OF OUR VALUE JUDGMENTS I BELIEVE ARE JUST PLAIN WRONG.

FOR INSTANCE, IF WE REALLY WANT TO HELP SICK KIDS, WHY DO WE MAKE MEDICINE BOTTLES WITH

CHILDPROOF CAPS?

( LAUGHTER ) AM I THE ONLY ONE THINKING THESE THINGS?

KEEP GOING.

YEAH.

( LAUGHTER ) WELL, APPARENTLY I AM NOT, BECAUSE THE VIEWERS ARE ALWAYS RIDING ME FOR ANSWERS.

FOR INSTANCE, ARE THESE LETTERS?

LET'S FIND OUT.

ALL RIGHT.

( LAUGHTER ) HERE WE GO.

YUP.

RIGHT THERE.

YUP, THIS IS ONE.

IT SAYS, "STEPHEN, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR INBOX SEGMENTS?

THANKS FOR ASKING.

RIGHT NOW.

( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE ).

( CHEERS ) FOLKS, TONIGHT'S FEATURE LETTER COMES TO US FROM STEPHEN C.-- NO, SORRY, THAT'S WHO IT'S

ADDRESSED TO.

ANYWAY, THE QUESTION S, DEAR STEPHEN, WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT, A LION OR A TIGER?

PLEASE SAY LION.

IT'S IMPORTANT." TIMOTHY DANIELS, Ph.D., AGE 46.

GREAT QUESTION, TIMMY.

THIS IS A CLASSIC RIVALRY, ONE OF THE FEW I'VE NEVER WEIGHED IN ON.

LET'S LOOK AT THE FACTS.

LIONS HUNT IN PACTION.

THEY'RE USED TO GANG FIGHTS.

WHILE TIGERS ARE SOLITARY, HUNTING ALONE.

I ALWAYS PUT MY MONEY ON THE DRIFTER, WHETHER IT'S BIG CATS OR BONG FIGHTS.

THAT'S A CLEAR ADVANTAGE TO THE TIGER.

WHEN IT COMES TO SIZE YOU MIGHT THINK THE LION WOULD WIN BECAUSE THEY'RE HUGE, THE SECOND LARGEST

MEMBER OF THE CAT FAMILY.

YOU KNOW WHO'S FIRST?

( BLEEP ) TIGERS.

( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE ) LIONS, LIONS, FOLKS, LIONS CAN WEIGH UP TO 550 POUNDS WHILE

TIGERS HAVE WEIGH UP TO 800.

BUT THEY DON'T LOOK IT BECAUSE THE VERTICAL STRIPES ARE SLIMMING.

( LAUGHTER ) NOW, BOTH LIONS AND TIGERS HAVE TAILS, SO THAT'S A WASH.

BUT THE TIGER'S LIFE SPAN IS 10 TO 15 YEARS, WHILE THE LION'S IS A MERE 10 TO 14 YEARS.

( LAUGHTER ) SO IF IT COMES DOWN TO IT, THE TIGER CAN JUST WAIT THE LION OUT.

NOW, BOTH HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO CARTOON CHARACTERS, SO THAT'S A TIE.

BY THE WAY, IT'S OKAY WHEN THEY CALL EACH OTHER TIGER, BUT YOU SHOULD NOT.

( APPLAUSE ) NOT COOL.

PLEASE.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) BUT TIGERS HAVE ALMOST TWICE THE BITE FORCE, THEY'RE MUCH FASTER,

SO CLEARLY IT'S NO CONTEST.

IF A LION FOUGHT A TIGER, TIGER WOULD WIN PAWS DOWN.

THEY'VE GOT THE SIZE, THEY'VE GOT STRENGTH, THEY'VE GOT THE STRIPES.

AND NOW THEY'VE GOT THE COLBERT BUMP.

( APPLAUSE ) BESIDE, TIM, YOU HAVE EVER HEARDAVE COWARDLY TYINGER?

NO.

( LAUGHTER ) SORRY, LION, YOU MAY BE KING OF THE JUNGLE, BUT TIGERS ARE KING OF WHEREVER TIGERS LIVE.

CEREAL AISLE?

I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S FOR TIGER VERSUS LION.

NOW TIGER WOODS VERSUS LION-EL RICHIE.

THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER SEGMENT OF "THE INBOX." ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

FOLKS, THEY SAY YOU CAN'T MAKEAN OMELET WITHOUT BREAKING A FEW

EGGS.

I SAY THEY'VE NEVER TRIED MYWESTERN SCRUNCH SCRAMBLER.

THIS IS THOUGHT FOR FOOD.

YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS ON THELOOKOUT FOR INNOVATIONS AND FAST

FOODS.

THAT'S WHY I WAS SO EXCITED BYTHIS NEW CONCEPT IN EATING

QUICKLY.

>> WHAT'S THAT?

>> KFSK GO-CUP.

>> THAT LOOKS BETTER THAN THIS.

>> 10-31 IN PROGRESS.

>> YOU TAKE THIS.

>> Stephen: CHICKEN AND FRIESTOGETHER IN A CUP?

THIS IS GOING TO REVOLUTIONIZETHE WAY I EAT MEET.

IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT A"10-31 IN PROGRESS MEANS" THE

CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL SAYSIT'S AN ATTEMPTED SUICIDE.

WHICH--( LAUGHTER )

( APPLAUSE )WE LOOKED IT UP.

WE LOOKED IT UP.

WHICH, INTENTALLY, IS HOW THEU.S.D.A. CLASSIFIES THE GO-CUP.

( LAUGHTER )( APPLAUSE )

ED ASTHIS AD MADE ME FOR THE NEWPOTATO AND POULTRY BIG GULP, THE

K.F.C. SALES DEPARTMENT HASNOTHING ON THE INTEGRATE THE

MARKETING GENIUSES AT FOX NEWS.

>> K.F.C. RELEASING GO-CUPSHOLDING THE ENTIRE COMBO MEALS,

CHICKEN AND FRIES IN EASY REACH.

GOOD IDEA.

>> REVOLUTIONARY CUP IS MADE TOFIT INSIDE YOUR CAR'S CUP

HOLDER.

>> Stephen: AND THE FOX ANDFRIENDS PRODUCT PLACEMENT DID

NOT STOP THERE.

THEY WERE JOINED ON THE COMFYCOUCH BY A TALKING DRUMMED

STICK.

( LAUGHTER )( APPLAUSE )

FOLKS, THE GO-CUP IS A GOODIDEA, BUT IT COULD BE GOODER.

LAST TIME I CHECKED, THE CUPHOLDER IS STILL AN ARM'S LENGTH

AWAY FROM THE OLD GRUB-CHUTE,AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN PUT

THE GO-CUP BETWEEN YOUR LEGS.

THAT'S WHERE THE TUB OF BEN &JERRY'S GOES.

ALL THE, EFFECTIVE BIRTHCONTROL.

CHILLS DOWN THE SWIRMS.

FOLKS, TONIGHT, I AM PROUD TOINTRODUCE MY OWN BETTER IDEA,

K.F.C.'S WHEEL MEAT.

( LAUGHTER )( APPLAUSE )

YES.

THE WHEEL MEAT.

IT'S A ONE-PIECE CIRCULARMACRO-NUGGET THAT MOUNTS SNUGLY

ON TO YOUR STEERING COLUMN.

YOU GET TWO SAUCES -- HONEMUSTARD ON THE LEFT, AND

BARBECUE ON THE RIGHT.

AND YOUR CHICKEN GETS SOFTTHROUGH THE NATURAL COURSE OF

TURNING.

AND REMEMBER, IT'S HANDS AT 10AND 2, MOUTH AT 12.

( LAUGHTER )WHEN IT'S TIME FOR DE-- DEJERT

RAM INTO A TELEPHONE POLEBECAUSE YOUR AIRBAG IS NOW APPLE

PIE.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

NEXT UP, AS A PROUD MALE GROCERYSHOPPER I'M SHOCKED BY A NEW

ARTICLE IN THE "WALL STREETJOURNAL" THE REPORT THAT MEN ARE

DOING A GREATER SHARE OF THEGROCERY SHOPPING AND MEAL

PREPARATION.

EVEN MORE SHOCK-- THIS IS NOT ANARTICLE FROM 1952.

( LAUGHTER )THE GOOD-- LET'S CALL IT NEWS--

IS THAT THE FOOD INDUSTRY ISTAKING NOTICE.

>> JUST HOW MANLY IS YOUR FOOD?

THEY'RE INJECTING TESTOSTERONEFUEL MARKETING INTO THEIR BRAND.

>> ONE OF MY FAVORITES ISPOWERFUL YOGURT.

THEY FELT THE YOGURT SECTIONFELT OVERLY FEMALE.

YOU CAN SEE THE BULL HORNSPROMOTING PROTEIN.

>> Stephen: YUP, BULL'SHORNS.

THIS YOGURT IS EXTRA MANLYBECAUSE EVIDENTLY IT'S MADE FROM

BULL MILK.

( LAUGHTER )( APPLAUSE )

VERY DIFFICULT TO ACQUIRE.

BUT THE BULL WILL THANK YOU.

( APPLAUSE )POWERFUL YOGURT, FOLKS, POWERFUL

YOGURT IS JUST ONE OF THE MANYPRODUCTS TARGETED AT A NEW BREED

OF MALE SHOPPERS THAT MARKETERSARE CALLING MANFLUENCERS.

I CAN TELL YOU, THEY'RE VERY MANFLEWENTIAL.

THEY ALSO MANFLUENCED ME INTOTHINKING MANFLUENCE IS A WORD.

AND THE TESTOSTERONE DOES NOTSTOP WITH THE MACHO COLOR

SCHEMES.

MARKETERS ARE REBRANDINGPRODUCTS WITH MAN-FRIENDLY NAMES

LIKE KILLER BREAD, AND ULTIMATEHAMBURGER HELPER.

ALTHOUGH, THIS FTHEY REALLYWANTED TO BRO IT UP, THEY'D CALL

IT "HAMBURGER SHOPPER."

WE'LL BE RIGHT

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK.

AS YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO WATCHESTHIS SHOW IS WELL AWARE

CHRISTMAS IS MY FAVORITEHOLIDAY.

I ALWAYS GET MY CHRISTMASSHOPPING DONE EARLY.

THAT WAY BY CHRISTMAS MORNINGI'VE COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN WHAT I

BOUGHT MYSELF.

( LAUGHTER )DON'T TELL ME I GOT ME AN

ASPARAGUS STEAMER.

I WANT TO BE SURPRISED.

ALSO, I AM REGIFTING IT FROM ANOLD GIFT I GOT ME BECAUSE WHO

WANTS AN ASPAR BUS STEAMER?

THE BEST SURPRISE OF ALL, FOLKSIS TO BE ABLE TO GET A GIFT FROM

THE FAMOUS NEIMAN ( BLEEP )--NEIMAN MARCUS CHRISTMAS BOOK.

KNOWN FOR ITS LAVISH GIFTS PASTCATALOGS HAVE FEATURED HIS AND

HER BOWLING ALLEY, AND A $35,000DRAGON TOPIARY.

IT'S THE PERFECT PLACE TO FIND AGIFT FOR THAT PERFECT WHO HAS

EVERYTHING EXCEPT TASTE.

( LAUGHTER )THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR, FOLKS,

THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE,INCLUDING MY NEWS FALCON

EAGLETON.

THE $150,000 FALCONRY COMPANIONWITH TRANSPORT CASE, FALCON

HOODS AND GOLD-PLATED PERCHINCLUDING A GRANITE BASE FOR

INDOOR USE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOINGTO WANT TO HAVE YOUR FALCONS

INDOORS.

HOW ELSE IS HE GOING TO FETCH METHE REMOTE?

( LAUGHTER )FOLKS THAT'S NOT EVEN THE BEST

GIFT IN HERE.

>> CHRISTMAS IS THREE MONTHSAWAY NOW, BUT NEIMAN MARCUS,

THEY HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN IN THEHOLIDAY SPIRIT PRAUL, YOU CAN

DESIGN YOUR OWN DIAMOND RING.

BUT NOT ONLY, THAT YOU GET TOTRAVEL TO AFRICA TO SEE WHERE

THIS GENTLEMEN ACTUALLY CAMEFROM.

THE COST OF THAT LITTLEADVENTURE, $1.9 MILLION.

>> Stephen: FOR $1.9 MILLIONYOU GOAT TRAVEL TO AFRICA TO SEE

WHERE YOUR DIAMOND CAME, FROM ORFOR $2 MILLION, YOU GET TO NOT

SEE WHERE IT CAME FROM.

( LAUGHTER )IT'S ALL CALLED THE FOREVERMARK

ULTIMATE DIAMOND EXPERIENCE.

AND IT'S DESCRIBED AS AONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME ADVENTURE

INCLUDING FIRST-CLASS TICKETS TOWINDHOEK, NAMIBIA.

DINNER WITH THE DE BEERS C.E.O.

AND PHILIPPE MELLIER AND TIMEABOARD A DIAMOND MINING VESSEL.

JUST LIKE DIAMONDS, THE MEMORYOF WHAT YOU WITNESS IN NAMIBIA

WILL LAST FOREVER.

INFORMATION I HAVE TO ADMIT,$1.9 MILLION MAY NOT BE WITHIN

EVERYONE'S GRASP.

LUCKILY, I'VE TEAMED UP WITHPRESCOTT FRESHES STONES TO OFFER

A DIAMOND ADVENTURE AT HALF THECOST.

FOR JUST $1 MILLION YOU CANENJOY THE COLBERT U-PICK-'EM

BLOOD DIAMOND EXPERIENCE.

( LAUGHTER )COMPLAUZ IT BEGINS WITH BEING

WHISKED AWAY-- ( CHEERS )

WHISKED AWAY IN THE DEFEND NIGHTTO OUR EXCLUSIVE MINE IN AN

UNDISCLOSED LOCATION IN THECONGALESE BUSH WHERE YOU GET THE

MOST IMMERSIVE GEM STONEEXPERIENCE MONEY CAN BUY.

YOU'LL SPEND ALL DAY AND NIGHTSURROUND BY GEMS.

YOU'LL BE PRACTICALLY BURIED INDIAMONDS.

PLUS YOU'LL RECEIVEROUND-THE-CLOCK HANDS-ON

GUIDANCE FROM OUR QUALITYASSURANCE TEAM.

AND YOUR KIDS CAN JOIN IN THEFUN, TOO, BY EXPLORING OUR

DIAMOND ADVENTURE PLAY SHAFTS.

THERE'S ALWAYS MORE FUN DOWNTHERE, KIDS.

JUST KEEP DIGGING FOR IT.

MAKE NO MISTAKE, THE COLBERTU-PICK-'EM BLOOD DIAMOND

EXPERIENCE IS SO UNIQUE, YOU'LLNEVER WANT TO LEAVE-- WHICH IS

GOOD.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

( APPLAUSE )

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS SITTING OVERTHERE.

I SHOULD GO TALK TO HIM.

PLEASE WELCOME A. SCOTT BERG!

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )WHOOO!

I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO PSYCHE YOU OUTTHERE.

SOMETIMES THEY DESERVE DOUBLEDIPS OVER THERE.

THIS IS A GREAT CROWD TONIGHT.

SIR, YOU'RE AWE PULITZERPRIZE-WINNING AUTHOR.

>> I AM.

>> Stephen: YOU HAVE WRITTENABOUT LINDBERG AND KATHARINE

HEPBURN.

YOU HAVE A NEW ONE HERE.

IT'S CALLED "WILSON--" THIS ISWOODROW WILSON, RIGHT?

>> IT IS WOODROW WILSON.

>> Stephen: WHY WILSON?

WERE ALL THE GOOD PRESIDENTSTAKEN AT THIS POINT?

WHY NOT POLK OR BUCHANAN.

>> ALL EXCEPT THE BESTPRESIDENT.

>> Stephen: WILSON, WOODROWWILSON.

>> I THINK HE'S THE MOSTINFLUENTIAL FIGURE OF THE 20th

CENTURY.

>> Stephen: HITLER WAS VERYINFLUENTIAL, TOO, SIR.

WAS HE THE BEST PRESIDENTGERMANY EVER HAD?

>> SOME SAY.

>> Stephen: SOME SAY?

REALLY, REALLY, A. SCOTT BERG?

WHAT DOES THE "A" STAND FOR,ADOLF?

>> "A" STANDS FOR ANDREW.

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUTED WITHROW.

THIS IS A MAN WHO CREATED ADOMESTIC AGENDA WE STILL LIVE

WITH TODAY, EIGHT-HOUR WORKDAYS, WOMEN WITH THE VOTE.

>> Stephen: OF COURSE THEYHAD EIGHT-HOUR WORK DAYS IN

1913.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE 5 HOUR ENERGYBACK THEN.

THEY COULDN'T HACK IT LIKE WECAN NOW.

>> TRUE ENOUGH.

AND ALL OUR FOREIGN POLICYTODAY, FOR GOOD OR FOR BAD,

COMES FROM WOODROW WILSON.

>> Stephen: HOW ABOUT FOR THEBAD?

( LAUGHTER )HERE'S MY PROBLEM WITH WILSON--

HE'S A PROGRESSIVE.

HE IS THE FIRST GREATPROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT.

>> HE IS, AND GOT ELECTED TWICEFOR IT.

>> Stephen: HE RAN THE FIRSTTIME SAYING HE WAS GOING TO KEEP

US OUT OF WORLD WAR I.

THEN GOT RE-ELECTED AND BROUGHTINTOWS WORLD WAR I.

( LAUGHTER )>> HE REALIZED HE HAD TO DO

THAT.

>> Stephen: UH-HUH, HE HAD TOLIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

>> HE WAS -->> Stephen: ADMIT, HE LIED TO

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

>> NO, HE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH.

>> Stephen: SEE, I'M A KAISERFAN.

I'M A KAISER FAN.

SERIOUSLY.

HISTORICALLY GERM AN-- YOU'RESAYING THAT-- YOU'RE SAYING THE

KAISER SHOULD NOT HAVE RESPONDFORWARD THE ASSASSINATION OF

FRANZ FERDINAND?

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

THAT'S APPEASEMENT.

>> NO, NO, HE SHOULD RESPOND.

THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT SHOULDTHE UNITED STATES DO ABOUT IT?

>> Stephen: WELL THE UNITEDSTATES WENT IN TO FIGHT FOR THE

FROGS AND THE LIMEYS.

THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

WORLD WAR II, GREAT WAR.

WORLD WAR I, HUGE MISTAKE.

>> WELL-- WELL.

>> -->> Stephen: AND WILSON GOT US

IN.

>> HE DID GET US IN.

HE THOUGHT THERE WAS A MORALCOMPONENT THAT SHOULD BE PART OF

AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY.

>> Stephen: TOW DESTROYGERMANY SO HITLER WOULD COME TO

POWER?

>> NEGOTIATE THE IDEA WAS TOLOOK AFTER THE LITTLE NATIONS

AND THE NATION BEING PICKED ON.

AND WILSON FELT THAT WITHGREATNESS, SUCH AS THE UNITED

STATES HAD, COMES A CERTAINAMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY.

>> Stephen: HERE'S MY BIGGESTPROBLEM.

LET'S PUT FOREIGN POLICYASPIEPPED LET'S TALK DOMESTIC.

THIS IS THE BASTARD WHO STARTEDTHE FEDERAL RESERVE.

( LAUGHTER )WHO PUSHED FOR A GRADUATED

INCOME TAX.

HOW YOU CAN POSSIBLY DEFEND AMAN WHO STARTED THE FED-- WHICH

IS CONTROLLED BY THE ILLUMINATI,AND AN INCOME TAX-- THIS IS THE

GUY WHO IS CRIPPLING US WITHPRINTED MONEY.

>> WELL -->> Stephen: THANK YOU, THANK

YOU.

A MEMBER OF THE BULL MOOSE PARTYSTILL HERE.

( LAUGHTER ).

>> WOODROW WILSON, THIS IS A MANWHO WANTED TO LEVEL THE PLAYING

DISPEELD HE THOUGHT THIS WAS AWAY TO DO IT.

HE THOUGHT THIS WAS A WAY TOMAKE A FAIRER COUNTRY.

>> Stephen: THAT'S CALLEDREDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH.

>> IT IS JUST THAT.

>> Stephen: THAT'S CLASSWARFARE.

>> IT IS.

>> Stephen: THAT'S CLASSTRENCH WARFARE.

YEAH.

DO YOU THINK THAT WAS THE RIGHTTHING FOR HIM TO DO?

>> THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER ITHINK THAT.

>> Stephen: IT'S YOUR BOOK.

IT'S YOUR BOOK.

>> WELL -->> Stephen: I ALREADY SAID

IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DOAND IF YOU'RE NOT SAYING IT IS

THE RIGHT THING TO DO I WILL WINEVERY ARGUMENT.

>> I WANT READERS TO COME TOTHEIR OWN CONCLUSION.

>> Stephen: WHAT KIND OF ABOOK IS THAT.

>> IT'S A THINK FOR YOURSELFKIND OF BOOK.

BOOK.

>> Stephen: A THINK FORYOURSELF KIND OF BOOK.

OKAY, WILSON ALSO TRIED TO GETUS INTO THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS.

>> HE DID.

>> Stephen: THAT'S THEPROTOLIKE BABY STEP UNITED

NATIONS.

>> IT IS.

>> Stephen: HE WAS WILLING TOGIVE UP AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY,

ALSO.

>> WOULDN'T SAY HE WANTED TO GOTHAT FAR.

>> Stephen: OF COURSE YOUWOULDN'T.

YOU LIKED HIM.

HE BELIEVED WE SHOULD BE TBHORKCONS CONCERT WITH OTHER NATIONS.

>> HE DID.

HE HAD A VERY STRANGE NOTIONTHAT WE SHOULD ALL SIT DOWN AT A

TABLE BEFORE WE GO TO WAR ANDMAYBE WE COULD STOP IT BEFORE

THE WAR BREAKS OUT.

THAT WAS HIS NOTION.

>> Stephen: WHAT WAS THISGUY'S DISPEERNS BEFORE HE WAS

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?

>> WELL, IT WAS ACADEMIA.

HE WAS A COLLEGE PROFESSOR ANDTHEN A COLLEGE PRESIDENT.

>> Stephen: IVORY TOWER.

>> WELL, EXCEPT, EVEN THERE, HEWAS TRYING TO LEVEL THE PLAYING

FIELD WITHIN THE IVORY TOWER.

HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT LESS OFAN IVORY TOWER.

>> Stephen: WHAT SCHOOL DIDHE GO IT?

>> THAT WAS PRINCETONUNIVERSITY.

>> Stephen: PRINCETONUNIVERSITY.

HAS IT LEVELED OUT SINCE THEN.

>> EVERY SMART MAN AND SMARTWOMAN.

>> Stephen: CAN GUTOPRINCETON?

>> YES.

( LAUGHTER )( APPLAUSE )

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )>> Stephen: I LIKE YOUR

STYLE.

WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE LASTINGLEGACY OF WILSON?

IS THERE ANYTHING IN OBAMA THATWE SEE FROM WILSON?

>> WELL I THINK THERE ARE A LOTOF THINGS WE SEE IN OBAMA,

ALTHOUGH I THINK HE COULD TAKE AFEW PAGES OUT OF OF THE WILSON

PLAYBOOK, AND THAT IS HAVE MOREOF A CONVERSATION WITH THE

CONGRESS AND WITH THE COUNTRYFOR THAT MATTER.

>> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND THATWILSON ACTUALLY PUT THE IDEA OF

NATIONALIZED HEALTH CARE ON THETABLE 100 YEARS AGO.

>> THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT FIRSTCAME UP.

>> Stephen: SO, REALLY,OBAMACARE IS A DISCUSSION THAT

STARTED 100 YEARS AGO.

>> ALMOST EVERY PROGRESSIVE IDEACAME UP WITH WOODROW WILSON.

>> Stephen: WHAT WAS WILSON'SBALMCARE WEB SITE LIKE?

WAS IT ANY BETTER BACK IN 1913?

I THINK AT THIS POINT, STEAMPOWER MIGHT BE BETTER THAN WHAT

WE HAVE.

>> I THINK IT WORKED BETTER, BUTYOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GET

THIS FIXED.

I THINK.

( LAUGHTER )>> Stephen: WELL, WE SHALL

SEE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

A. SCOTT BERG.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

THE BOOK IS "WILSON."

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

>> Stephen: THAT'S IF FOR THEREPORT, EVERYBODY.

GOOD NIGHT.

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