September 10, 2013 - Shane Salerno

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In the second installment of cOlbert's Book Club, Stephen debates J.D. Salinger's literary bests with Tobias Wolff and talks with Salinger biographer Shane Salerno.

( THEME SONG PLAYING )>> STEPHEN COLBERT PRESENTS, THE

C-OLBERT BOOK CLUB, TONIGHT'SSELECTION.

>> EVERYTHING, THE CATCHER INTHE RYE, BY J.D. SALINGER.

>> EVERYTHING, THE CATCHER INTHE RYE, BY J.D. SALINGER.

>> EVERYTHING, THE CATCHER INTHE RYE, BY J.D. SALINGER.

STEPHEN! STEPHEN!

>> Stephen: WELCOME TOEVERYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, IN THESTUDIO AND ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

>> YOU ARE JOINING US FOR ANHISTORIC EVENING. THIS IS THE

SECOND EDITION OF THE C-OLBERTBOOK CLUB.

TONIGHT, WE ARE STEPPING AWAYFROM THE CONFLICT IN SYRIA,

BECAUSE APPARENTLY THAT WAS THEUNITED STATES.

A LOT OF DETAILS STILL TO BEWORKED OUT AND WE WILL GET INTO

THOSE TOMORROW, BUT THE UPSHOTIS THAT AMERICA WILL NOT ATTACK

SYRIA FOR GASSING ITS CITIZENSIF THEY GIVE UP THEIR CHEMICALS

WEAPONS.

>> IT IS LIKE IF YOU DECAPITATEADD CO-WORKER, SO THEY ARE

TAKING AWAY YOUR AX.

BUT YOU GET TO KEEP YOUR JOB ANDYOUR HATCHETT.

>> BE GOOD NOW! BE GOOD! OKAY.

ANYWAY, FORGET THAT STUFF.

IT IS A DOWNER.

LET'S GET TO THE BOOK CLUB.

ALREADY IN PROGRESS.

>> NOW, AS YOU KNOW, I AM APOWERFUL MEDIA MOGUL.

I HAVE GOT MY OWN SHOW, I HAVEGOT MY BEST SELLING BOOK.

I HAVE GOT AN AWARD WINNINGTWITTER FEED! AND, OF COURSE, I

HAVE MY MASSIVE DAILY E-MAILBLAST OF THE INTERNET BEST

FORWARDS.

RITICS HAVE RAVED, UNSUBSCRIBE! BUT I DON'T HAVE MY OWN NETWORK

LIKE THE OWN NETWORK, WHICH ISOWNED BY OWN-PRAH WINFREY.

>> BUT NOW I DO HAVE THIS BOOKCLUB, WHICH IS WHY I HAVE BEEN

CHUGGING CHARDONNAY SINCE NOON.

.. AND PITCHING ABOUT MYSISTER-IN-LAW SHARON AND THE WAY

SHE FEEDS MY KIDS WHEN THEY AREOVER AT HER PLACE.

DON'T TELL ME THEY HAD DINNER IFALL YOU GAVE THEM BUT A GOGURT

AND A CLIFF BAR, YOU BITCH!

[ APPLAUSE ]>> SPEAKING OF DRINKING HEAVILY,

F. SCOTT FITZGERALD.

THAT IS THE AUTHOR WE TALKEDABOUT LAST TIME.

TONIGHT, WE WILL BE TALKINGABOUT THE BIGGEST INITIALS IN

20TH CENTURY LITERATURE, J.D.

SALINGER.

A MAN SO RECLUSIVE HIS FIRST TWONAMES ARE STILL A SECRET.

WAS IT JOE DON? JUAN DIEGO?

>> JOE DA PLUMBER?

>> UNFORTUNATELY SALINGER CANNOTBE WITH US TONIGHT, EITHER MTV

BOOKED HIM TO APPEAR ON THEVMA'S, OR --

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: -- OR HE DIED IN

2010.

ONLY TIME WILL TELL.

BUT WE HAVE GOT A FANTASTIC SHOWLATER ON WE WILL BE TALKING

ABOUT SALINGER'S LITERARYINFLUENCE WITH TOBIAS WOLFF,

AUTHOR OF "THIS BOY'S LIFE" ANDWE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE NEW

DOCUMENTARY ABOUT SALINGER WITHITS DIRECTOR SHANE SALERNO, WHO

ALSO COWROTE THE 1998BLOCKBUSTER, "ARMAGEDDON".

WHICH IS WHY AT THE END OF THEDOCUMENTARY, SALINGER BLOWS

HIMSELF UP TO SAVE BEN AFFLECK.

TRUE STORY.

NOW, SALINGER WAS FIERCELYPROTECT IF THE OF HIS PRIVACY SO

LET'S INVADE HIS PRIVACY IN PARTONE OF MY ONE-PART SERIES,

BETTER KNOW SALINGER.

>> J.D. SALINGER, THE WRITIN'J-D! SALINGER WAS BORN IN --

SALINGER WAS BORN IN 1919 TOMIRIAM AND SAL, SALINGER, HE WAS

A MEDIOCRE STUDENT, ENDED UPFLUNKING OUT OF THE MCBURNEY

SCHOOL IN HIS SOPHOMORE YEAR,APPARENTLY HE HAD NOT READ THE

SOPHOMORE BOOK ASSIGNMENT MAINLYBECAUSE HE HADN'T WRITTEN IT

YET. FROM THERE, SALINGER WENTON TO MILITARY SCHOOL AND WAS

EVENTUALLY DRAFTED INTO WORLDWAR II.

HE WAS ON UTAH BEACH ON D-DAY,HE FOUGHT IN THE BATTLE OF THE

BULGE AND LIBERATE ADDCONCENTRATION CAMP ALL THE WHILE

WRITING SHORT SERIES THE THEMESOF ALIENATION, DEPRESSION AND

LOS OF NEGLIGENCE.

WHAT AN IMAGINATION! WHILE INGERMANY THE HALF JEWISH SALINGER

ARRESTED A YOUNG NAZI OFFICIALNAMED SYLVIA, WHO HE THEN

MARRIED AND BROUGHT TO AMERICA.

THE MARRIAGE LASTED ONLY EIGHTMONTHS AND ACCORDING TO

SALINGER'S DAUGHTER FOREVERAFTERWARDS SALINGER REFERRED TO

SYLVIA AS SALIVA.

WHICH WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY ASTHE KINDEST POSSIBLE WAY TO

INSULT A NAZI.

IN 1951, SALINGER RELEASED THECATCHER IN THE TRY, THE STORY OF

AN ADOLESCENT NAMED HOLDENCAULFIELD WHO SKIPPED OUT IN

SCHOOL, HEADS TO THE BIG CITY,WHERE HE GOES TO A JAZZ BAR,

LOOKS FOR DUCKS IN CENTRAL PARK,TAKES IN A MUSEUM, CATCHES A

CUBS GAME, JOINS A TWIST ANDSHOUT AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT

HOLDS, HIS DAD'S FERRARI FLIESOUT OF THE WINDOW INTO THE

WOODS!

[ APPLAUSE ]>> SINCE THEN CATCHER HAS BEEN

FEATURED IN THE MODERN LIBRARYAND TIME MAGAZINE'S LIST OF 100

BEST NOVELS SELLING OVER65 MILLION COPIES WORLDWIDE.

TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE THEJOY OF SEX SOLD ONLY 10 MILLION

COPIES WORLDWIDE AND THE CATCHERIN THE RYE HAS NO SEX, AND EVEN

LESS JOY.

>> NOTABLE FANS, NOTABLE FANS OFTHE CATCHER IN THE RYE INCLUDE

JOHN HINCKLEY, JR. WHO READ ITBEFORE SHOOTING RONALD REAGAN

AND MARK DAVID CHATMAN WHO READIT BEFORE SHOOTING JOHN LENNON,

IT IS THE MOST VIOLENT REACTIONTO A BOOK SINCE 1963'S TRAGIC

RASH OF POP HOPPING.

>> IN THE FINAL 45 YEARS OF HISLIFE, SALINGER DID NOT PUBLISH

ANY NEW MATERIAL DESPITEREPORTEDLY WRITING EVERY DAY.

THAT IS RIGHT.

HE WROTE THINGS WITHOUTIMMEDIATELY SHARING THEM WITH

THE WORLD AND I WILL GIVE YOU AMOMENT TO TWEET HOW STRANGE THAT

IS.

[ APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: NOW, THE ESTATE --

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: THE ESTATE OF J.D.

SALINGER IS RUMORED TO BEPUBLISHING FIVE NEW BOOKS IN THE

UPCOMING YEARS, THE BOOKS ARESAID TO INCLUDE A BOOK ON

EASTERN MYSTICISM, A COLLECTIONOF GLASS FAMILY STORIES AND A

PREQUEL TO HIS MOST FAMOUS WORK,THE CATCHER IN THE RYE, THE

PHANTOM MENACE.

THOUGH I AM NOT ENTIRELY SURETHE WORLD IS READY FOR JAR-JAR

CAULFIELD.

>> HE IS A GODDAMN PHONY!

>> IN HIS LATER YEARS SAL JERRYTHREATENED TO SUE JUST ABOUT

ANYONE WHO ATTEMPTED TO ADAPTHIS WORK, BUT DO YOU SEE ME

SHAKE, JERRY SO NOW I PRESENT TOYOU A DRAMATIC READING OF

STEPHEN COLBERT'S J.D.

SALINGER'S THE CATCHER IN THETRY.

LET ME JUST GET INTO CHARACTERWITH MY SCARF, MY RED HUNTING

CAP, AND MY CAULFIELD CATCHER INTHE TRY, I THINK THAT IS THE

KIND OF BOOK CAULFIELD WOULDCARRY AROUND.

HERE WE GO.

CHAPTER 1.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HEAR -- ♪>> I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO

THE ESTATE OF J.D. SALINGER.

HIS PUBLISHERS AT LITTLE BROWNAND COMPANY, AND, OF COURSE,

PATRICK STEWART, WHOSEPERFORMANCE AS PHOEBE WILL NOW

NEVER BE SEEN.

>> THIS HERE.

SIGN THIS HERE, AND RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OF COURSE, AS POPULAR AS CATCHERIN THE RYE IS, IT IS NOT THAT

GOOD OF A BOOK.

WHEN WE RETURN, MY GUEST AUTHORTOBIAS WOLFF WILL DASH HIMSELF

ON THE ROCKS OF MY CERTAINTY.

WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE

>> STEPHEN COLBERT PRESENTS, THEC-OLBERT BOOK CLUB, TONIGHT'S

SELECTION.

>> EVERYTHING BUT CATCHER IN THERYE, BY J.D. SALINGER.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

THE C-OLBERT BOOK CLUB! THANKSSO MUCH! J.D. SALINGER, OF

COURSE, IS BEST KNOWN FORCATCHER IN THE RYE, CONSIDERED

PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANTAMERICAN NOVEL THAT I DON'T GET.

NO SMALL ACHIEVEMENT CONSIDERINGTHE THOUSANDS OF OTHER NOVELS I

DON'T GET.

I MEAN, GOOD NIGHT MOON, ITMAKES NO SENSE.

THE MOON STAYS UP AT NIGHT.

IT SHOULD BE GOOD NIGHT, SUN,HELLO MOON, HAVE A GREAT

EVENING.

NOW, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

THANK YOU.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: FOLKS, DON'T GET

ME WRONG, I LOVE J.D. SALINGER'SSHORT STORIES ABOUT THE

BRILLIANT EMOTIONALLY FRAGILEGLASS FAMILY, THERE IS JUST

SOMETHING HABIT THESELF-ABSORBED ANXIETIES OF

EMOTIONALLY STUNTED RICH WHITEPEOPLE THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO ME.

THE POINT IS, I DON'T CARE IFMILLIONS CONSIDER CATCHER IN THE

RYE J.D. SALINGER'S BEST WORK,YOU WILL NEVER CONVINCE ME, HERE

TO CONVINCE ME IS THE AUTHOR OF"THIS BOY'S LIFE", PLEASE

WELCOME TOBIAS WOLFF.

TO BIAS, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> OKAY.

>> I'M SORRY.

CAN I -- WAS -->> I'M FINE, THANK YOU.

>> Stephen: MORE FOR DADDY.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE TO STAY HYDRATED.

NOW, TO BE BIAS, YOU BELIEVE.

>> TOBIAS, YOU BELIEVE THIS ISONE OF THE GREAT AMERICAN FORMS,

TRUE.

>> I THINK IT IS A WONDERFULNOVEL.

>> Stephen: DID IT INFLUENCEYOUR WORK.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE "THISBOY'S LIFE" IS A COMING OF AGE

STORY IN WHICH YOU START OFF ASYOURSELF AS YOU END UP AS

LEONARDO DICAPRIO.

>> WHY DO YOU -- WHY DO YOUTHINK THIS IS A GREAT NOVEL AND

WHY DO YOU THINK IT TALKS TO OURKIDS?

>> WELL, I WOULD SAY TO BEGINWITH THAT I WISH IT WEREN'T

TAUGHT TO THE KIDS, BECAUSE -->> Stephen: AMEN.

>> PART OF THE EXPERIENCE OFFINDING THAT NOVEL FOR MYSELF

WAS THAT I FELT LIKE I WAS BEINGSUBVERSIVE WHEN I WAS READING

IT, BECAUSE HERE IS A BOOK THATWAS REALLY CALLING THE ADULT

WORLD AS I SAW IT THEN, A NESTOF HYPOCRISY, AND PHONINESS, AND

THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TODISCOVER ON YOUR OWN.

YOU DON'T WANT YOUR ENGLISHTEACHER TO BE INTRODUCING YOU TO

THE HYPOCRISY OF ADULTS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I STILLREMEMBER THE NIGHT I READ IT.

I WAS IN A PLAY, AND I KEPTMISSING MY -- BECAUSE I WAS

READING THIS BOOK AND LAUGHINGSO HARD, SO IN HIS THRALL AND I

THINK WHEN YOU DISCOVER THE BOOKIN THAT WAY, IT STAYS WITH YOU

IN THAT WAY THE REST OF YOURLIFE.

YOU READ IT LATER, RIGHT?

>> Stephen: I DIDN'T READ IT.

IT WAS ASSIGNED IN TENTH GRADE,AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK I GET

HOLDEN CAULFIELD BECAUSE I SAIDI AM NOT GOING TO READ THAT.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: I AM MORE HOLDEN

CAULFIELD THAT HOLDEN CAULFIELD,REALLY.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: DO YOU REALLYTHINK WE SHOULD TEACH THIS STUFF

TO THE KIDS? BECAUSE IT HAD BADWORDS IN IT AND IT HAS A

PROSTITUTE IN IT AND THAT ISSOME SPICY STUFF. DO WE NEED TO

BE REINFORCING OUR KIDS BADBEHAVIOR AS TEENAGERS WITH THE

IDEA THEY COULD BE A CHARACTERIN A GREAT NOVEL? DAD, I WASN'T

DISOBEYING YOU, I WAS EXPLORINGMODES OF ALIENATION.

>> WELL, I WOULD CERTAINLY WANTTHEM TO BE INTRODUCED TO THAT

BOOK RATHER THAN BE TRAINED INPOMPOUSNESS, PRETENTIOUSNESS,

BOGUS SPIRITUALITY, SUCH AS YOUFIND IN THE CLASS STORIES.

>> Stephen: NOW, WAIT ASECOND.

WAIT A SECOND.

THE GLASS FAMILY STORIES, FRANNYAND ZOOEY, AND THE CARPENTERS,

EVEN DOWN AT THE DINGY IF YOUWANT TO.

>> THOSE ARE -->> Stephen: THOSE ARE SOME OF

HIS FINEST WORKS, SOME OF HISGREATEST WORKS.

YOU WILL ADMIT THAT OR YOU WILLPAY A PRICE.

>> WELL, IF YOU LIKE -->> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU HAVE

AGAINST THE GLASS FAMILY?

>> DO YOU LIKE TO READ SERMONSALL DAY?

>> Stephen: I GIVE THEM.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>> THERE IS A WONDERFUL LITTLE

MOMENT IN CATCHER IN THE RYEWHEN HOLDEN IS TALKING ABOUT THE

PREACHERS THAT COME TO TALK INTHE CHAPEL AND -- AT -- AND HE

TALKS ABOUT THIS HOLY JOE TONETHAT THEY TAKE ON, AND ODDLY

ENOUGH THAT IS THE TONE HE TOOKON WHEN HE WAS WRITING THESE

GLASS FAMILY STORIES.

>> Stephen: BUDDY GLASS WHOWRITES ALL OF THE STORIES, IT

EVEN IMPLIES HE WROTE CATCHER INTHE RYE, EVERYTHING.

>> EVERYTHING, RIGHT.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

HE SAYS ESSENTIALLY I KNOW THATI AM WRITING IMPERFECT STORIES

HERE AND I WILL BE GET LOST INMY OWN LO CONSTITUTIONS AND I

USE GOD IN A WAY THAT IS NOT ATHREE LETTER EXPLETIVE AND

ACTUALLY THINK OF HIM ASSERMONIZING.

HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING BUT ITIS A CONFESSION.

YOU ARE SEEING WHO SALINGERREALLY IS, YOU DON'T LIKE

SALINGER, HOW DARE YOU LIKE HISBOOK.

[ APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: TOBIAS WOLFF.

"THIS BOY'S LIFE" IS ALSO PRETTYGOOD.

WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,EVERYBODY.

THANKS SO MUCH.

FOLKS, MY SECOND GUEST TONIGHTIS THE DIRECTOR OF A NEW

DOCUMENTARY, SALINGER, ANDCOAUTHOR OF A BOOK ALSO CALLED

SALINGER.

BUT IF THEY HAVE THE SAME NAME,HOW WILL I KNOW WHICH IS WHICH?

PLEASE WELCOME SHANE SALERNO.

SHANE, THANKS FOR COMING ANDJOINING ME.

[ APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: NOW --

>> I AM GOOD.

>> Stephen: AGAIN, I AM THEONLY THIRSTY ONE HERE TONIGHT.

NOW, SHANE, YOU ARE THE COAUTHOROF A NEW BIOGRAPHY.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: OF J.D. SALINGER,YOU ARE ALSO THE WRITER AND THE

DIRECTOR OF A NEW MOVIE AGAINCALLED SALINGER.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> WHY DID YOU THROW YOURSELFINTO THE LIFE OF SALINGER? WHY

IS HE YOUR WHITE WHALE?

>> HE WAS, THAT IS A GOOD WAY TOPUT IT.

HIS LIFE IS SO EXTRAORDINARY.

WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT J.D.

SALINGER LOST THE LOVE OF HISLIFE TO CHARLIE CHAPLAIN.

>> THIS IS WHAT A HIGH ROLLERSALINGER WAS.

IF EUGENE O'NEILL'S DAUGHTER.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: AND AT AGE 16 WHOIS SHE DATING.

>> BETWEEN 16 AND 18, PETERARNOLD.

>> Stephen: THE GREAT NEW YORKCARTOONIST.

>> J.D. SALINGER AND BASICALLYMARRIED CHARLIE CHAPLAIN ON HER

18TH BIRTHDAY.

>> Stephen: FROM 16 TO 18.

>> SHE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARYWOMAN.

>> Stephen: SALINGER GOES OFFTO FIGHT WORLD WAR II.

>> SHE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD ANDMEETS COMARLY CHAPLAIN.

>> Stephen: BUT SHE IS HISGIRLFRIEND WHEN HE GOES TO THE

BATTLE OF THE BULGE AND READS INTHE NEWSPAPER, GUESS WHAT, YOUR

GIRLFRIEND JUST MARRIED CHARLIECHAPLAIN.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: WHO IS 53.

>> YEAH.

AND SHE IS 18.

>> SHE IS 18, AND THAT CHANGEDHIS LIFE FOREVER, EVERY WOMAN

WAS COMPARED TO UNA, SHE REALLYIMPRINTED UPON HIM AN AGE AND

PERIOD IN HIS LIFE.

>> Stephen: LET'S GET INTOWHAT I THINK IS REALLY THE

SHOCKER IN THE BOOK, THE THINGTHAT REALLY REVEALS SAL JERRY IN

HIS TOTALITY.

>> HE HAD ONE BALL.

THAT IS A REVELATION IN HERE.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT BEFORE IREAD YOUR BOOK.

IT IS TRUE, RIGHT?

>> IT IS ONE PARAGRAPH IN A 700PAGE BOOK.

BUT IT IS TRUE.

>> Stephen: IT IS.

ONE PARAGRAPH, ONLY ONE BALL.

>> NOW -->> Stephen: IS THAT WHY HE

WENT FOR SUCH YOUNG WOMEN, YOUNGVIRTUAL VIN NATURAL WOMEN.

>> VIRGIN NATURAL AND HE WOULDSAY, NO, NO THEY ARE ALL LIKE

THAT, THEY ARE ALL LIKE THAT.

>> .. I AM GOING TO TAKE THEFIFTH ON THAT ONE.

>> Stephen: HERE IS MY BEEF.

HERE IS MY BEEF WITH YOU.

WHY LET ME KNOW THESE THINGSABOUT SALINGER? HE WAS SOMEONE

WHO GUARDED HIS PRIVACY AND IRESPECTED THAT PRIVACY BY NOT

INTRUDING BECAUSE WHAT IF I FINDOUT THINGS ABOUT HIM THAT CREEP

ME OUT? I AM WORRIED IF I LEARNTHINGS ABOUT SALINGER THAT I

DON'T LIKE I WON'T LIKE HISBOOKS ANYMORE IS THAT A DANGER?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASEIN THE LAST FEW WEEKS SINCE THE

PUBLICITY OF THE FILM AND THEFILM HAS BEEN RELEASED CATCHER

IN THE RYE JUMPED TO NUMBERSEVEN ON AMAZON.

>> Stephen: WHY DO YOU THINKWE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT A GUY

WHO HASN'T REALLY -- HASN'TWRITTEN ANYTHING ANYBODY THOUGHT

WAS REALLY ANY GOOD SINCE THE1950'S?

>> SALINGER IS A IS AONE-OF-A-KIND SINGULAR VOICE AND

THE IDEA HE WORKED FOR 45 YEARSEVERY SINGLE DAY AND PUT THAT

WORK IN A VAULT TO BE RELEASEDSTARTING IN 2,015.

>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU HOPETHOSE STORY ARE? AND WHAT DO

YOU HOPE THEY WEREN'T?

>> WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK --WILL HATE THE MOST?

>> I THINK WHAT IS GOING TO BEINCREDIBLE TO SEE HIM COMPLETE

THE GLASS FAMILY, TO SEE ANARTIST COMPLETE SOMETHING THAT

HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR 40YEAR.

WE HAVE ONLY SEEN HALF OF THEPAINTING.

THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR.

WE HAVE HALF OF THE PAINTING.

>> Stephen: WHY DO YOU THINKHE DIDN'T LET US SEE? HE WAS

WRITING EVERY DAY AND THE STUFFIS REALLY OUT THERE AND I WILL

TAKE IT ON FAITH.

WHY DO YOU THINK HE WOULDN'T LETUS SEE IT.

>> HIS RELIGION SAYS YOU DON'TDO ANYTHING THAT FEEDS YOUR EGO.

>> Stephen: THAT SUCKS.

[ APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: DO YOU KNOW -- I

DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, YOU WORK IN HOLLYWOOD,SO YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT FEEDING

AN EGO IS LIKE.

BUT YOU KNOW HOW DELICIOUS IT ISTO FEED YOUR EGO?

>> BUT I THINK THAT THAT IS WHY.

I MEAN, HE REALLY FELT THAT THEWORK ITSELF WAS THE REWARD, AND

SO THAT AFTER HE PASSED AWAY AFEW YEARS IT WOULD BE EXACTLY

FIVE YEARS AFTER HE PASSES AWAYTHE WORK WILL START TO BE

RELEASE SOD HE IS NOT THERE FORTHE EGO GRATIFICATION OF SEEING

IT PUBLISHED, THAT IT IS JUST APURE ARTIST DELIVERING HIS WORK

TO AN AUDIENCE.

>> Stephen: WHY DO YOU THINKTHAT SEYMOUR SHOOTS HIMSELF?

>> BECAUSE OF THE TRAUMASUFFERED IN WORLD WAR 2 AND

SALINGER KNEW THATEXTRAORDINARILY WELL, AND

SALINGER WALKED INTO ACONCENTRATION CAMP AND NEVER

WALKED OUT AND FOR THE TEST OFHIS LIFE HE WAS LIVING IN

POSTTRAUMATIC STRESS SYNDROMEAND OUR FILM DETAILS THAT AND I

THINK IN AN UNPRECEDENTEDFASHION SHOWS HOW DAMAGED HE

REALLY WAS.

THE INTERESTING THING ABOUTWORLD WAR II AND SALINGER IS IF

J.D. SALINGER HADN'T GONE TOWORLD WAR II WE WOULD HAVEN'T

THIS WORK, SO, YOU KNOW,.

>> Stephen: SO MAYBE WE OWEHITLER MAYBE JUST A LITTLE

APOLOGY.

YOUR WORDS.

YOUR WORDS.

NOT MINE.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: SHANE SALERNO, THE

BOOK AND A MOVIE, SALINGER.

WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Stephen: BEFORE WE GO, IWANT TO THANK LES AND JACKIE AND

WALT AND WAKER AND BOOBOO ANDFRANNY AND ZOOEY AND OF COURSE

SEYMOUR, AND -- I HOPE TONIGHT'SSHOW DOES NOT LACK TESTICULARITY