August 26, 2014 - Jeff Bridges & Lois Lowry

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The Report wins the Emmy for Outstanding Variety Series, Stephen chats with Rep. Marcia Fudge about Ohio's 11th District, and Jeff Bridges and Lois Lowry talk "The Giver."

>> Stephen: HEY, JEFF.

HI.

>> Stephen: THANKS FOR BEINGHERE, MAN.

>> OH, MY PLEASURE.

WHAT'S WRONG?

(SIGHS)>> Stephen: OH, NOTHING.

YOU LOOK UPSET.

>> Stephen: IT'S JUST A MAJORCRISIS.

>> YEAH?

WELL, I'M AN ACTOR, YOU KNOW.

LET ME ACT LIKE I'M HELPING.

>> Stephen: WOULD YOU?

WELL, LAY IT ON ME, MAN.

>> Stephen: I'M IN A BIT OF ASHOW BUSINESS PICKLE.

I'M NOT ACTUALLY HERE TONIGHT.

>> WHERE ARE YOU?

>> Stephen: I'M IN L.A.

THE EMMYS WERE LAST NIGHT AND IWAS NOMINATED.

>> OH!

WAS I NOMINATED?

>> Stephen: NO.

(BLEEP).

>> WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT?

>> Stephen: ME.

YOU'RE NOT HERE?

>> Stephen: NO.

AM I HERE?

>> Stephen: NO.

THIS IS A PRE-TAPE.

YOU'RE IN THE PAST.

>> WHEN IN THE PAST?

>> Stephen: TWO WEEKS AGO.

OH.

>> Stephen: MY QUESTION IS,JEFF, SHOULD I COME BACK TO DO

MY SHOW LIVE IN NEW YORKTONIGHT, WHICH INVOLVES ME

TAKING THE RED EYE BACK FROMLOS ANGELES AFTER THE EMMYS, OR

SHOULD I JUST PLAY A SHOW IRECORDED TWO WEEKS AGO?

>> WHO WAS THE GUEST?

>> Stephen: YOU ARE.

OH!

SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY COOL SHOW.

WHY DON'T WE DO THE WHOLE PROSAND CONS THING WITH THIS DEAL.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

WHAT ARE THE PROS OF YOUFLYING BACK AND DOING THE SHOW

LIVE?

>> Stephen: WELL, THE MATERIALWILL BE MORE TOPICAL, WHICH

FULFILLS WHAT I BELIEVE IS ASACRED TRUST BETWEEN ME AND MY

AUDIENCE.

>> AND THE CONS ARE...

>> Stephen: I DON'T WANT TO.

THERE'S YOUR ANSWER, MAN,RIGHT THERE.

>> Stephen:(LAUGHTER)

ONE OF THE THINGS IS I'MWORRIED MY AUDIENCE MIGHT MISS

ME TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOTI WON THE EMMY.

>> NO PROBLEMO.

YOU JUST TAKE ONE OF THESECAMERA PHONE THINGS WITH YOU.

>> Stephen: I'VE SEEN ONE OFTHOSE.

>> AND THEN YOU CAN EDIT IN ATTHE EMMYS,

WHETHER YOU WIN ORNOT.

>> Stephen: ME TALKING THEREAND WE EDIT IT IN NOW, LIKE ON

THIS PHONE?

>> SURE!

>> Stephen: HI!

WE WON FOR SHOW AND WE WON FORWRITING LAST WEEK AND NOW WE'RE

GOING TO GO CELEBRATE IN THEOFFICIAL EMMY PARKING GARAGE,

BECAUSE THAT'S GLAMOUR, THAT'SHOLLYWOOD.

AND THANK YOU, NATION.

THIS IS "THE COLBERT REPORT"!

>> Stephen: WELCOME TO "THEREPORT"!

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, LADIESAND GENTLEMEN, IN HERE, OUT

THERE, ALL AROUND THE WORLD,NATION, HUGE SHOW TONIGHT!

I AM EITHER VERY HAPPY ABOUT THEEMMYS OR WONDERING WHY I WENT.

(LAUGHTER)EITHER WAY, I CANNOT WAIT TO

FIND OUT HOW I AM SO HUNG OVER.

OH, EXCUSE ME, HOLD ON A SECOND.

MY STOUFFER FROZEN DINNER ISREADY!

AND, OH, KIDS! THERE'S NOTHING IENJOY MORE

THAN EATING A NICE, HOTSTOUFFER'S FAMILY-SIZE LASAGNA.

I MAY NOT BE A WHOLE FAMILY, BUT

AFTER THIS, I WILL FEEL LIKEI'VE GOT A BABY IN ME!

(LAUGHTER)AND THE REASON I'M STOUFFIN' MY

FACE IS THIS COMPANY HAILS FROMTHE 78th INSTALLMENT OF MY

434 PART SERIES, BETTER KNOW ADISTRICT. TONIGHT, OHIO'S 11TH,

THE FIGHTING 11TH!

OHIO'S 11th, INCLUDES THE CITYOF CLEVELAND, FOUNDED BY GENERAL

MOSES CLEVELAND IN 1796.

AS OF 1800 THE CITY'SPOPULATION CONSISTED OF ONLY

THREE MEN -- A SOCIOLOGICALCONDITION KNOWN TODAY AS

NORTH DAKOTA.

IN 1879, CLEVELAND BECAME THEWORLD'S FIRST CITY TO BE LIGHTED

ELECTRICALLY.

RESIDENTS WERE PROUD OF THEACHIEVEMENT, THOUGH DISAPPOINTED

TO SEE MORE OF CLEVELAND.

(LAUGHTER)THE 11th IS HOME TO THE MIGHTY

CUHAHOGA RIVER, ONCE SOPOLLUTED, IT SPURRED THE

CREATION OF THE EPA AFTERCATCHING ON FIRE 13 TIMES.

AFTER THE FIRST 12 FIRES THEYREALIZED THEY SHOULDN'T TRY TO

PUT THEM OUT WITH RIVER WATER.

IN 1935, THE DISTRICT WAS THEFIRST PLACE OF ALCOHOLICS

ANONYMOUS FOUNDED BY BILL WILSONAND DR. BOB SMITH.

OH, SHOOT!

FOUNDED BY TWO GUYS.

SORRY.

(LAUGHTER)OKAY.

OHIO'S 11th IS THE HOME OF THECAVALIERS, THE BROWNS AND THE

CLEVELAND INDIANS, A TEAM SO BADTHAT THEY ARE IN LAST PLACE AT

OFFENDING NATIVE AMERICANS.

(LAUGHTER)THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME

IN CLEVELAND ATTRACTS HUNDREDSOF THOUSANDS OF TOURISTS TO THE

11th EACH YEAR.

THIS YEAR THE HALL INDUCTED'70s ROCK BAND KISS WHOSE

FRONT MAN GENE SIMMONS IS THEONLY THING MORE POLLUTED

THAN THE CUYAHOGA RIVER.

AND WHO HAS THE CLEVELAND ROCKSTO REPRESENT THE DISTRICT?

IT'S NONE OTHER THANCONGRESSWOMAN MARTHA FUDGE THE

HEAD OF THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACKCAUCUS.

I SAT DOWN WITH REPRESENTATIVEFUDGE IN HER WASHINGTON OFFICE.

CONGRESSWOMAN, THANK YOU SOMUCH FOR TALKING TO ME.

>> MY PLEASURE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Stephen: TELL ME ABOUT THEFIGHTING 11th.

>> THE 11th, THOUGH MY OPINIONIS PROBABLY BIASED, IS THE BEST

IN THE UNITED STATES.

WE HAVE THE BEST ORCHESTRA, THEBEST HEALTHCARE WITH THE

CLEVELAND CLINIC, UNIVERSITYHOSPITALS AND --

>> Stephen: LeBRON, AMI RIGHT?

UP TOP?

>> LeBRON.

>> Stephen: UP TOP?

YOU MUST BE EXCITED HE'SRETURNING TO CLEVELAND.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen: YOU MUST BE PRETTYEXCITED WHEN ANYONE IS RETURNING

TO CLEVELAND.

>> I AM EXCITED HE'S COMING BACKTO CLEVELAND, ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen: YOUR DISTRICT ISHOME TO MICELI DAIRY PRODUCTS

AND YOU ALSO HOST AN ANNUALLEMONADE STAND DAY

AND YOU WERE BORNIN YOUR DISTRICT?

>> YES.

>> Stephen: IS IT ACCURATE TOSAY MILK, MILK, LEMONADE,

AROUND THE CORNER FUDGE IS MADE?

(LAUGHTER)>> I GUESS, YES.

>> Stephen: OKAY, I DIDN'T KNOWWHERE THAT PHRASE CAME FROM

CLEVELAND IS KNOWN FOR ITSFANTASTIC HEALTHCARE.

>> CORRECT.

THE CLEVELAND CLINIC IS THESITE OF THE WORLD'S FIRST FACE

TRANSPLANT.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: HOW DO I KNOW YOUARE MARTHA FUDGE?

PERHAPS SOMEONE STOLE YOUR FACE,PUT IT ON THEIR BODY AND

IS NOW HERE TO REPRESENTTHEMSELVES AS MARTHA FUDGE

THE CLEVELAND CLINIC HAS MADETHAT A REALITY

>> I'VE HAD THIS FACE A LONGTIME.

A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ME.

>> Stephen: LET ME ASK YOUROPINION.

>> OKAY.

>> Stephen: DO YOU THINK ISHOULD JUST GET A FRESHEN UP

OR GET A WHOLE TEAR-DOWN ANDHAVE A NEW ONE PUT ON.

>> I THINK YOU LOOK FINE.

>> Stephen: I'M THINKING JUSTA LITTLE, LIKE THIS.

JUST, HI! I'VE JUST BEENSLEEPING A LOT.

(LAUGHTER)>> I THINK YOU LOOK GREAT.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

YES.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU VERYMUCH.

LET'S MOVE ON TO ANOTHERSUBJECT.

WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT CHILDRENFROM EL SALVADOR AND GUATAMALA

AND HONDURAS WHO ARE COMING TOOUR SOUTHERN BORDER IN DROVES?

>> I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW THELAW AND THE LAW SAYS THAT WE

HAVE TO GIVE THEM A DUE PROCESSHEARING AND DETERMINE IF, IN

FACT, THEY SHOULD BE SENT BACKOR IF THEY CAN STAY IN THIS

COUNTRY.

>> Stephen: THE LAW ALSO SAYSTO PROTECT OUR BORDERS.

>> IT DOES AND WE DO.

>> Stephen: HOW SO?

THEY'RE GETTING ACROSS, TENS OFTHOUSANDS OF THESE KIDS, IF THEY

ARE KIDS.

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY ARECHILDREN.

GUATEMALAIANS ARE VERY WONDERFULBUT VERY SMALL PEOPLE

(LAUGHTER)ANY ONE OF THEM COULD BE ADULTS

WEARING A KID'S SUIT.

>> WE PUT LAWS IN PLACE FOR AREASON.

THE 2008 LAW SIGNED BY PRESIDENTGEORGE BUSH NEEDS TO BE

ENFORCED.

>> Stephen: YOU FOUGHT FORIMMIGRATION REFORM TO INCLUDE

IMMIGRANTS FROM AFRICA.

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT?

WE TRIED THAT FOR 300 YEARS ANDIT WAS TERRIBLE FOR BOTH SIDES

TO BRING ALL THOSE IMMIGRANTSOVER HERE

(LAUGHTER)LED TO A HUGE PROBLEM.

LED TO A WAR.

>> IT WAS OVER SLAVERY.

>> Stephen: YOU'RE SAYING THE WAR WASN'T OVER SLAVERY.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: IT WAS?

BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILYBECAUSE PEOPLE FROM AFRICA WERE

TRYING TO COME ACROSS OURBORDERS AS IMMIGRANTS.

WE WERE BROUGHT HERE AGAINST OUROWN WILL.

>> Stephen: WELL, HISTORY WILLBE THE JUDGE.

(LAUGHTER)SPEAKING OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.

JOHN BOEHNER.

YOU HELD HANDS WITH MITCHMCCONNELL AND JOHN BOEHNER

AND SANG WE SHALL OVERCOMERIGHT? TO COMMEMORATE THE

1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT

>> YES.

>> Stephen: RACISM IS OVER,RIGHT?

>> NO, IT IS NOT.

>> Stephen: HOW COULD YOU HAVEDONE THAT IF THERE WAS STILL

RACISM?

>> IT SAYS WE SHALL, AT SOMEPOINT WE WILL.

>> Stephen: ♪♪ WE HAVE OVERCOME.♪♪

JOIN ME.

♪ WE HAVE OVERCOME ♪ WE HAVE OVERCOME ALBEIT

RECENTLY ♪♪THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: WHEN YOU LOOK BACKAT THE MOST EGREGIOUS PART OF

RACISM, JIM CROW ERA, '50s,'60s, IS THERE ANY PART OF IT

THAT YOU MISS?

>> NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

(LAUGHTER)>> Stephen: OKAY. MAY I?

THE DRINKING FOUNTAINS.

DON'T GET ME WRONG, I DON'TTHINK THERE SHOULD BE WHITE OR

BLACK DRINKING FOUNTAINS.

ANYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DRINKFROM ANY THEY WANT.

BUT THERE WERE TWICE AS MANYDRINKING FOUNTAINS

IT WAS JUST MORE CONVENIENT, YOUKNOW.

>> I DON'T THINK DRINKINGFOUNTAINS ARE THE MOST SANITARY

THING ANYWAY.

>> Stephen: SO YOUR BIGGESTPROBLEM WITH THOSE

IS THAT THEY'RE UNSANITARY?

>> NO, MY BIGGEST PROBLEM ISTHAT THERE WERE

WHITE FOUNTAINSAND BLACK FOUNTAINS.

>> Stephen: IF YOU DON'T WANTTO USE EITHER ONE, WHY IS IT A

PROBLEM?

>> IT RESTRICTED MOVEMENT IN OURNATION.

>> Stephen: I AGREE. YOU AND IARE

SINGING THE SAME TUNE HERE,ALTHOUGH WITH DIFFERENT LYRICS.

(LAUGHTER)CLEVELAND IS THE HOME TO THE

ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. CANYOU GET ME IN?

>> YES.

>> Stephen: I HAVE TWOGRAMMIES.

I HAD A BAND IN THE '80sCALLED STEPHEN AND THE COLBERTS.

YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THE SONG "I'MRIGHT BEHIND YOU NOW, CHARLENE"

>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH, NO.

♪ EVERY TIME I SEE YOU, I THINKOF YOU ♪

♪ EVERY TIME I'M NEAR YOU, ITHINK OF YOU ♪

♪ I THINK OF YOU WHEN I DREAM OFYOU ♪

♪ AND I'M TAKING PICTURES OFYOU ♪

♪ I THINK OF YOU WHEN I'M IN ABLIMP ♪

♪ LOOK HING DOWN FROM UP ABOVEYOU ♪

♪ YOU KNOW I'M MISSING YOU ♪ MY MIND IS KISSING YOU

♪ I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU NOW,CHARLENE ♪♪

(LAUGHTER) ♪

♪ I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU NOW,CHARLENE ♪♪

♪♪ YOU'LL NEVER BE ALONE AGAIN,NO ♪♪

(LAUGHTER)>> Stephen: THAT DOESN'T RING

A BELL AT ALL?

IT DOESN'T -->> ARE WE DONE?

PLEASE.

>> Stephen: NO, WE'RE NOTDONE!

STAY TUNED FOR THE EXCITINGCONCLUSION OF THIS THING WE'RE

NOT DONE WITH.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK!

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,EVERYBODY.

BEFORE THE COMMERCIAL BREAK, IWAS GRILLING OHIO CONGRESSWOMAN

MARSHA FUDGE, WHICH IF YOU ADDMARSHMALLOW AND GRAHAM CRACKERS

WOULD MAKE A CONGRESSIONAL S'MORE.

WOULD MAKE A CONGRESSIONAL S'MORE.

>> MUSIC TRANSCENDS EVERYTHINGUNTIL WE DECIDED IT'S GOING TO

BE A GREAT IDEA TO HAVEMUSICIANS COME TOGETHER.

>> Stephen: IS IT FAIR TO SAYYOU WANT TO ROCK US OUT WITH OUR

CAUCUS OUT?

>> YES

>> Stephen: WOULD YOU BEWILLING TO SAY THAT?

>> UH, ROCK US OUT WITH OURCAUCUS OUT

>> Stephen: EXCELLENT. THERE'S ALOT OF AFFECTION FOR YOU RIGHT

NOW FOR REASONS I CAN'T EXPLAIN

(APPLAUSE)DO YOU HAVE A PAC?

>> I DO.

AND IS IT CALLED FUDGE PAC?

IT IS NOT?

>> NO.

>> Stephen: THINK IT'D BE AGOOD NAME, THOUGH?

>> NO.

>> Stephen: EVERYONE WOULDLIKE TO HAVE A BUMPER STICKER

SAYING "I AM A FUDGE PACKER."

IT WOULD BE GREAT.

YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> I'LL THINK ABOUT IT.

>> Stephen: MOVING ON.

YOU WERE AN OUTSTANDING ATHLETE.

>> I WAS.

>> Stephen: IN YOUR YOUTH.

YOU WERE A FENCING CHAMPION INHIGH SCHOOL.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: I'VE DONE A LITTLEFENCING.

>> HAVE YOU?

>> Stephen: CONGRESSWOMAN...

(LAUGHTER)I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL.

>> I ACCEPT!

♪♪>> Stephen: MY NAME IS STEPHEN

♪♪>> Stephen: MY NAME IS STEPHEN

COLBERT. YOU DISSED PAUL RYAN.

PREPARE TO DIE.

IF I WIN, YOU MAKE ME A MEMBEROF THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK

CAUCUS.

IF YOU WIN, I'LL MAKE YOU AMEMBER OF THE WHITE CAUCUS.

I'LL TALK TO SOMEBODY.

>> DEAL!

♪♪

>> Stephen: WHOSE IS THAT?

>> MINE.

>> Stephen: WHAT!

♪♪THAT WAS ME, BABY!

THAT WAS ALL ME!

THAT WAS ALL ME!

(APPLAUSE)SO, THAT'S TWO OUT OF THREE?

>> TWO OUT OF THREE.

♪♪(APPLAUSE)

♪♪(APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: I ACCEPT YOURDEFEAT GRACIOUSLY.

I AM NOW A PROUD MEMBER OF THECONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS.

LET'S PUT OHIO'S 11th UP ONTHE BIG BOARD!

OH!

LOOKS LIKE THE CUYAHOGA RIVER ISHAVING ITS FOURTEENTH FIRE.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Stephen: MY GUESTS TONIGHTARE HERE TO DISCUSS "THE GIVER,"

THEIR NEW FILM ABOUT A WORLDWHERE EVERYONE IS FORCED TO

CONFORM.

SO, HIGH SCHOOL? PLEASE WELCOMEJEFF BRIDGES AND LOIS LOWRY!

(Cheers and applause)JEFF, MS. LOWRY, THANK YOU SO

MUCH FOR BEING HERE!

JEFF BRIDGES, YOU ARE AN ACADEMYAWARD WINNING ACTOR, PRODUCER,

MUSICIAN. LOIS LOWRY, YOU ARETHE

NEWBERRY AWARD WINNING AUTHOR OFOVER 30 BOOKS --

(APPLAUSE)-- ONE OF WHICH IS "THE GIVER"

AND NOW THE TWO OF YOU HAVEGOTTEN TOGETHER TO MAKE A NEW

MOVIE IN WHICH YOU STAR AS "THEGIVER" AND IT OPENS IN THEATERS

AUGUST 15.

WHY DID YOU WANT TO MAKE THISMOVIE, MAN?

>> WELL, IT WAS ALL ABOUT THEPHOTOGRAPH ON THE COVER THAT

LOIS TOOK.

>> STEPHEN: IT KIND OF LOOKSLIKE YOU.

>> WELL, YEAH, BUT I THOUGHT ITLOOKED LIKE MY FATHER, LLOYD

BRIDGES -->> THIS WAS MANY YEARS AGO.

-- THIS WAS 18 YEARS AGO.

AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, I WANT TOMAKE A MOVIE THAT MY KIDS CAN

WATCH.

THIS LOOKS LIKE IT HAS THENEWBERRY STAMP AWARD ON THERE.

MY DAD'S UP FOR IT AND, YOUKNOW --

>> STEPHEN: DID YOU MAKE IT?

WELL -->> STEPHEN: YOUR DAD PASSED

AWAY MANY YEARS AGO.

>> WE MADE THE VIDEO VERSION OFIT.

>> STEPHEN: OKAY.

AND YOU MAY SEE IT AT SOMEPOINT IN TIME.

WE DO THIS PAST-FUTURE THING.

YOU NEVER KNOW HOW IT MIGHT WORKOUT.

>> HE'S TRYING TO FIND IT, IT'SIN HIS GARAGE SOMEPLACE.

>> STEPHEN: ARE THERE A LOT OFOLD FILMS OF YOURS YOU DON'T

KNOW WHERE THEY ARE?

(LAUGHTER)LOIS, MY KIDS LOVE THIS BOOK.

THIS BOOK HAS BEEN READ MILLIONSAND MILLIONS OF TIMES.

IT'S ASSIGNED IN SCHOOLS.

IS THAT A BADGE OF HONOR THATIT'S ASSIGNED IN SCHOOLS OR,

WHEN YOU HEAR THAT, YOU GO, OH,MY GOD!

DON'T MAKE THEM READ IT!

>> WHEN I HEAR FROM KIDS BYEMAIL WHO SAY, TELL ME ALL THE

SIMILES AND METAPHORS IN THEBOOK, I NEED THIS INFORMATION BY

THURSDAY. THEN I HATE IT.

ARE THERE A LOT OF SIMILES ANDMETAPHORS IN THIS BOOK? WHAT I'M

ASKING IS, WILL THIS INTERVIEWBE ON THE TEST?

>> Stephen: IS IT A METAPHORFOR SOMETHING?

FOR THE FEW PEOPLE OUT THERE WHODON'T KNOW THE STORY OF

THE GIVER -- OBVIOUSLY, I DO --(LAUGHTER)

-- TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT IT'SABOUT.

>> IT'S ABOUT AN OLD GUY PLAYEDBY JEFF BRIDGES

WHO HAS AN ENORMOUS JOBTRANSMITTING TO A YOUNG BOY

PLAYED BY BRENTON THWAITES --WHO'S NOT HERE, TOO BAD

HE'S VERY SWEET AND CUTE,TRANSMITTING TO HIM ALL THE

MEMORIES OF THE CULTURE FOR THEWHOLE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

>> Stephen: AND THE REASON HEHAS TO DO IT IS, IN THE FUTURE,

THERE IS THIS PLACE CALLED "THECOMMUNITY" AND IN IT THEY DON'T

HAVE MEMORY.

>> THEY HAVE FOUND A WAY TOMANIPULATE HUMAN MEMORY FOR

THEIR PURPOSES.

>> Stephen: IS THAT A GOOD ORBAD THING NOT TO HAVE MEMORY?

BECAUSE THERE IS STUFF I WOULDLIKE TO FORGET.

>> WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO FORGETSOME THINGS.

>> Stephen: HONEST TO GOD. THISGUY FORGOT WHERE HIS FILM WAS

JOHN KLEIN WROTE, TODAY I WALKDOWN THE STREET I USED TO

WANDER, SCRATCHED MY HEAD ANDMADE MYSELF A BET, THERE ARE ALL

THESE THINGS I DON'T THINK IREMEMBER, HOW LUCKY CAN ONE MAN

GET.

WOULDN'T IT BE NICE TO REMEMBERTHE THINGS THAT HURT US?

>> YOU REMEMBERED FOUR LINES OFPOETRY.

I CAN'T DO THAT!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: WHAT'S THE VALUE?

WHY DOES THIS SOCIETY, THISCOMMUNITY, WHY DO THEY

PURPOSEFULLY INJECT PEOPLE WITHSOMETHING TO MAKE THEM FORGET?

>> THEY'RE GOING FOR PERFECTION.

>> Stephen: IS THAT BAD?

YEAH.

IT DOESN'T WORK.

WE'RE PERFECTLY IMPERFECT, YOUKNOW.

>> Stephen: YOU'RE BLOWING MYMIND.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)OKAY.

WHAT DO THEY ACHIEVE?

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DOWN SIDES.

WHAT DOES A SOCIETY ACHIEVE?

WHAT ARE THE PROS?

>> THEY ARE COMFORTABLE, SAFE,THEY'RE HAPPY.

>> Stephen: ALL OF THAT SOUNDSPRETTY GOOD, I'VE GOT TO SAY.

I WOULDN'T MIND BEINGCOMFORTABLE AND SAFE AND HAPPY.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO NOT LOVE?

BECAUSE, AS THE SONG GOES, LOVEHURTS.

♪ LOVE HURTS...♪>> Stephen: LOVE IS A

BATTLEFIELD.

>> OH!

>> Stephen: OKAY.

SO YOU HAVE TO SUFFER TO LOVE?

>> SUFFERING IS A PART OF THEWHOLE DEAL, MAN.

IT'S HUMAN.

WHEN YOU TRY TO GET RID OF THAT,IT CAUSES A LOT OF DIFFERENT

PROBLEMS.

WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS KIND OFBEAR WITNESS TO OUR SUFFERING

AND TRY TO GET SOME EMPATHY FOREACH OTHER.

>> AND ALONG WITH THE THINGSTHEY GAINED, THE COMFORT AND

HAPPINESS, THEY HAVE LOSTSOMETHING OF THEIR HUMANITY BUT

ALSO THEY LOST ART, MUSIC,LITERATURE.

THERE'S NO BOOKS EXCEPT IN THEPLACE WHERE HE LIVES.

HE LIVES IN A PLACE WITH 22,000BOOKS ON THE SHELVES AND WALLS.

>> I HAVE ONE BEEF WITH THE BOOKAND I'M SURE THE MOVIE, TOO, IS

IT'S A LITTLEANTI-AUTHORITARIAN, OKAY?

IT'S GOT A PROBLEM WITHAUTHORITY, AND I THINK YOU

SHOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT,TOO, BECAUSE SINCE THIS BOOK IS

ASSIGNED, SHOULDN'T KIDS REBELAGAINST AUTHORITY AND REFUSE TO

READ IT BECAUSE THEIR TEACHERSTOLD THEM TO?

>> THERE IS THAT.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: "THE GIVER" IN

THEATERS AUGUST 15th.

LOIS LOWRY, JEFF BRIDGES.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK!

>> Stephen: THAT'S IT FOR THEREPORT," EVERYBODY,

GOOD NIGHT!

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