March 12, 2012 - Katherine Boo

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The Republican Southern primary leads to blue collar pandering, Dave "Mudcat" Saunders talks Southern strategy, and Katherine Boo discusses poverty and Mumbai's slums.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) SZ WELCOME TO THE REPORT,

EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

>> STEPHEN, STEPHEN,

STEPHEN!

STEPHEN, STEPHEN, STEPHEN!

STEPHEN, STEPHEN, STEPHEN!

>> NOT BAD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> FOLKS, I GOT TO TILL T IS GOOD TO YOU HAVE WITH US BUT IT IS NOT GOOD TO BE HERE.

BECAUSE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IT IS NOT SHOW TIME.

BECAUSE I REFUSE TO BOW TO THE BIG GOVERNMENT CHRONO-NAZIS AND THEIR DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME.

NO WASHINGTON BUREAUCRAT TELLS ME HOW TO A RUST-- ADJUST THE TILT OF THE EARTH'S AXIS.

I TELL YOU, FOLKS, THIS IS JUST BARACK OBAMA STEALING AN HOUR OF MY LIFE TO REDISTRIBUTE IT TO POOR PEOPLE.

(LAUGHTER) I KNOW THEY SAY, THEY SAY,

YEAH-- (APPLAUSE) THEY SAY-- YEAH, I CLAP WHEN I'M ANGRY TOO.

YES.

(LAUGHTER) THEY SAY YOU GET YOUR HOUR BACK IN THE FALL, BUT WHOSE'S EARNING THE INTEREST

ON THAT HOUR IN THE MEANTIME?

THE UNIONS, THAT'S WHO.

HOW ELSE DOES HE GET THOSE LUNCH BREAKS.

SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED IT IS STILL 10:30 AND I'M NOT JUST GOING TO SIT HERE

TALK INTO THIS CAMERA.

(LAUGHTER)

FOLKS, TOMORROW ARE THE BIG

GOP PRIMARIES IN ALABAMA AND

MISSISSIPPI.

THAT IS NOT JUST THE DEEP

SOUTH, THAT IS DIPPED IN

BATTER AND DEEP FAD FRIED

SOUTH.

AND EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M A

LOYAL SON OF THE SOUTH.

YOU CAN TELL BY MY THICK

SOUTHERN ACCENT.

AND OF COURSE THE PARASOL I

CARRY TO PROTECT ME FROM THE

NOON DAY SUN, OR ELSE I DO

DECLARE I WILL GET A BRAIN

FEVER.

NOW DIX-YEAR LAND HAS BEEN A

REPUBLICAN BULWARK EVER

SINCE RICHARD NIXON'S

SOUTHERN STRATEGY IN 1968

WHEN NIXON WON BY APPEAL

TOLLING SOUTHERN

CONSERVATIVES BY STRESSING

STATE'S RIGHTS, LAW AND

ORDER AND A SOLID PLEDGE TO

HUNT DOWN THOSE DUKE BOYS.

SO ANY REPUBLICAN WITHOUT

WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT HAS TO

WOO US AND I'M DELIGHTED TO

SAY THAT WE'VE GOT THREE

VERY HANDSOME GENTLEMEN

CALLERS, ALONG WITH THAT

NICE OLD MAN WHO KEEPS

PROMISING US GOLD.

(LAUGHTER)

NOW I LIKE THAT RICK

SANTORUM EVEN THOUGH HE'S

FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

BUT HOW CAN I RESIST A

GEORGIA PEACH LIKE NEWT

GINGRICH?

HE'S A SOUTHERNER BORN AND

RAISED, EXCEPT WHERE HE WAS

BORN AND RAISED.

AND MITT ROMNEY ALSO EXISTS.

(LAUGHTER)

AND MITT HAS JUST SAVED THE

GLOWING ENDORSEMENT OF THE

PREEMINENT CHRONICLER OF

SOUTHERN CULTURE, THE HEIR

TO WILLIAM FAULKNER,

MR. JEFF FOXWORTHY.

JAMES?

>> MITT ROMNEY WILL BE

CAMPAIGNING IN ALABAMA AND

MISSISSIPPI, WITH COMEDIAN

JEFF FOXWORTHY BY HIS SIDE.

>> M ITT IS THE RIGHT GUY

FOR THE JOB.

>> NOW IF YOU ARE'S A

MULTIMILLIONAIRE ENTERTAINER,

SUPPORTING THE CANDIDACY OF

A WEALTHY FINANCIER FROM

MASSACHUSETTS, YOU MIGHT NO

LONGER BE A REDNECK.

(LAUGHTER)

(APPLAUSE)

AND FOLKS, I GOT TO TELL YOU,

MITT'S NOT JUST WALKING THE

WALK HE'S DRAWALLING THE

TALK.

>> MORNING, Y'ALL.

GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.

I STARTED RIGHT WITH A

BISCUIT AND SOME CHEESY GRIT,

I'LL TELL YOU.

THIS IS A GUY FROM

MISSISSIPPI AND HIS NAME IS

GARRETT JACKSON.

THIS GUY IS WITH ME EVERY

SINGLE DAY, TAKES ME

EVERYWHERE I GO.

>> FOUR YEARS AT OLE MISS,

AND SO HE IS NOW TURNING ME

INTO AN, I DON'T KNOW, AN

UNOFFICIAL SOUTHERNER AND

I'M LEARNING TO SAY Y'ALL,

AND I LIKE GRITS.

AND THING -- STRANGE THINGS

ARE HAPPENING TO ME.

>> YES, STRANGE THINGS ARE

HAPPENING TO HIM.

BECAUSE BECOMING A

SOUTHERNER IS A LOT LIKE

PUBERTY.

YOUR VOICE CHANGES BEYOND

YOUR TESS TICKLES SECEDE

FROM THE NORTH-- TESTICLES

SECEDE FROM THE NORTH.

BUT NEWT-- BUT NEWT GINGRICH

WAS NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT

GRITS COMMENT LYING DOWN.

ALTHOUGH FROM THE LOOKS OF

HIM, HE HAS EATEN GRITS

LYING DOWN.

>> THE FIRST TIME HE HAD

EVER TASTED GRITS.

I JUST WANTED TO REASSURE

ALL OF YOU, THAT I HAVE HAD

SOME ACQUAINTANCE IN A

VARIETY OF FORMS, WHETHER

IT'S WITH SHRIMP, WITH

CHEESE, WITH GRAVY, I GET

IT.

>> OH, NEWT HAS THROWN THE

CHITLIN DOWN.

BUT I'M SURE MITT WILL PICK

IT UP BECAUSE HE'S NOT AWARE

THAT CHITLINS ARE HOG

INTESTINES.

SO WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR ANY

OF THESE CANDIDATES TO WIN

THE SOUTH?

HERE TO TELL ME IS THE

OFFICIAL SOUTHERN STRATEGIST

OF THE 2 004 AND 2008 JOHN

EDWARDS CAMPAIGN, 100% PURE

BUBBA MEAT MY FRIEND DAVID

SAUDERS.

WHAT'S UP, MUD CAT?

>> HEY, MAN, YOU KNOW WHAT,

JIMMY, COULD WE GIVE A

LITTLE SOUTHERN LIGHT IN

HERE.

PUT A LITTLE LIGHT, MAYBE

THROUGH THE MAGAZINE KNOLLIA,

THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

>> BEAUTIFUL.

>> YOU WANT SOME SWEET TEA.

>> SURE.

>> ALL RIGHT, HERE YOU GO.

>> IN A MASON JAR.

>> BEAUTIFUL NIGHT.

>> NOW DAVE, NOW DAVE, MUD

CAT, YOU'RE FROM THE SOUTH,

I'M FROM THE SOUTH, ALL

RIGHT.

BUT WE'RE DIFFERENT KINDS OF

SOUTH.

I'M FROM SOUTH CAROLINA.

WHERE ARE YOU FROM.

>> I'M FROM THE SOUTHERN

APPALACHAN MOUNTAINS.

HERE'S WHERE I AM FROM.

>> THERE SI DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN THOSE TWO SOUTHERNS.

LIKE HOW DO Y'ALL SEE SOUTH

CAROLINA.

>> WELL, I ALWAYS HEARD THAT,

YOU KNOW, SOUTH CAROLINA WAS

TOO SMALL TO BE A COUNTRY

AND TOO BIG TO BE A MENTAL

INSTITUTION.

>> THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO

THAT.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF TRUTH TO

IT.

>> WE HAVE THREE CANDIDATES

WHO ARE NOT TRUE

SOUTHERNERS.

WHAT DO SOUTHERNERS CARE B

HOW CAN THEY REACH THEM?

>> WELL, IN THE SOUTH, AND

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE

SOUTHERN STRATEGY, AND OF

COURSE, IT WAS IMPLEMENTED

EVEN FURTHER WITH LEE

ATWATER, INTRODUCED WEDGE

POLITICS IN 1980.

BUT I THINK THE BEST WAY TO

CHARACTERIZE THE SOUTH,

WHERE YOU'RE FROM AND WHERE

I'M FROM IS GO TO JIM WEBB'S

WORDS, FIGHT, SING, DRINK,

PRAY.

I THINK THAT IS PRETTY MUCH

EVERYTHING ABOUT US

CULTURALLY.

>> FIGHT, SING, DRINK, PRAY.

>> ALL RIGHT THAT SOUNDS

LIKE A GOOD PARTY.

>> IT DOES.

>> ALL RIGHT, YOU KNOW WHAT,

WHERE IS MY MANNERS, WOULD

YOU LIKE A GUN,.

>> LOVE TO.

>> ALL RIGHT THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT, THIS FEELS GOOD

TO HOLD.

NOW NOW OKAY, NOW CAN

SOUTHERNERS TELL WHEN PEOPLE

ARE PANDERING TO THEM IN

FAKE WAYS?

LIKE WHAT ABOUT MITT SAYING

Y'ALL AND TALKING ABOUT

CHEESE GRITS.

>> WE DON'T EAT CHEESY GRITS

IN APPALACHAN.

WE EAT GRITS, I THINK CHEESE

WAS BROUGHT THERE BY THE

YANKEES.

>> REALLY?

FROM WISCONSIN AND VERMONT.

>> RIGHT.

>> WELL, CAN THE REPUBLICANS

WIN WITHOUT THE SOUTH?

>> THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING

TO TAKE THIS TOWN.

>> HOW DID THAT HAPPEN, HOW

DID NIXON TURN THE SOUTH

FULLY REPUBLICAN.

>> I THINK STROM THURMAN, OF

COURSE, MOVE TOGETHER

REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE

SOUTHERN STRATEGY, I THINK,

YOU KNOW, THE SOUTHERN

STRATEGY WAS SMART BUT WHAT

IT REALLY GOT DOWN TO IS

1980 LEE ATWATER.

GOD, GUNS AND GAYS IS WHERE

IT WENT.

BUT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, I

SEE MITT ROMNEY, ESPECIALLY,

IF YOU GO UP INTO THE RUST

BELT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO

BE ABLE TO USE THE SAME

WEDGES OF GODS, BEGINS AND

GAYS.

>> IN THE SOUTH WE STILL

LOVE GOD, WE STILL LOVE OUR

GUNS AND YOU KNOW, BEING GAY

ISN'T AT THE TOP OF OUR

LIST.

>> THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF BIG,

PROMINENT GAY REPUBLICANS IN

THE SOUTH, RIGHT.

>> WELL, YEAH BUT --

>> UNLESS NEWT HAS AN

ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE, WHICH

WOULD SHOCK ALL THREE OF HIS

WIVES.

NOW WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING

TO PANDER TO SOUTHERNERS ARE

THERE THINGS THAT PEOPLE

SHOULDN'T DO, POLITICIANS,

EXCUSE ME, ARE THERE THINGS

THAT POLITICIANS SHOULDN'T

DO, ARE THERE THINGS

POLITICIANS SHOULDN'T DO?

I MEAN YOU CAN GO TOO FAR IN

PANDERING TO SOUTHERN

PEOPLE?

>> WITHOUT QUESTION.

>> REALLY?

>> WITHOUT QUESTION.

IT IS EASY TO SPOT.

>> REALLY?

>> I DID THE MARK WARNER

CAMPAIGN IN 2001 AND HE

WASN'T FROM THE-- AND SO WE

IMMEDIATELY DECIDE, MARK

DOES, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING

TO DO THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO SAY I'M NOT

FROM THE CULTURE.

BUT I LIKE IT.

AND --

>> SO SHOULD MITT ROMNEY

DROP THE Y'ALL?

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE

BETTER.

I REALLY DO.

>> HE ONLY HAS ABOUT 24

HOURS LEFT.

>> I KNOW.

BUT HE'S GOING TO HAVE A

FIGHT IN VIRGINIA AND NORTH

CAROLINA, AND IF HE DOESN'T

WIN FLORIDA, IN MY OPINION,

HE CAN'T BEAT OBAMA.

AND HE'S GOT TO WIN IT.

IF YOU TAKE THE FOURTH BIG

STATES, NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA,

TEXAS AND FLORIDA, HE'S GOT

TO WIN TWO OF THEM.

AND IF HE DON'T TAKE FLORIDA

AND YOU AND I BOTH KNOW IF

YOU ARE LOOKING FOR REDNECKS,

BY GOD, THE RIVER ERA HILTON

IS FULL OF THEM.

>> YEAH.

>> FLORIDA IS THE MECCA OF

REDNECKS.

>> REALLY.

NO OFFENSE TO MECCA.

(LAUGHTER)

DAVE MUD CAT SAUDERS, WE'LL

BE RIGHT BACK.

THANK YOU, DAVE.

>> THANK YOU, STEVE.

>> WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

NATION, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY

SAY, YOU SHOULD FEED A COLD,

STARVE A FEVER AND BARBECUE

A STAPH INFECTION.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I HOPE

THEY SAY BECAUSE MY FLOAT IS

SLAERTED IN MISS THE

QUESTION THIS IS CHEATING

DEATH WITH DR. STEPHEN T

COLBERT, DFA.

>> WHERE'S THE PRETTY LADY?

>> OH, THAT SAY TWO, MY

FRIEND.

A QUICK DISCLAIMER, MINOT A

MEDICAL DOCTOR, I AM A

DOCTOR OF FINE ARTS, WHICH

IS WHY AFTER I PERFORMED

SURGERY MOST PEOPLE SAY, MY

FIVE-YEAR-OLD COULD HAVE

DONE THAT.

(LAUGHTER)

AS ALWAYS, CHEATING DEATH IS

BROUGHT TO YOU BY PRESCOTT

PHARMACEUTICALS, PRESCOTT,

QUALITY DRUGS SINCE 1989.

ESTABLISHED 1910.

FIRST UP, NASSAL HEALTH.

FOLKS, I'M A LONG TIME

SUBSCRIBERS TO THE ANALS OF

OTOLOGY, RHINOLOGY AND LAR

INGOLOGY.

I READ IT FOR THE HOT

OSSICLES ON COCHLEA ACTION.

AND APPARENTLY THERE IS AN

EXCITING NEW WAY TO STOP

NOSEBLEEDS.

ACCORDING TO THE ARTICLE

CURED SALTED PORK CRAFTED AS

A NASSAL TAMPON-- TAMPON AND

STOPPED IN THE NASA VAULT

STOP NASSAL HEMORRHAGE

PROMPTLY.

THAT'S RIGHT, THE HERO ONCE

AGAIN IS LIFESAVING BACON.

I ASSUME THE DECK TEACH

TEACH-- TECHNIQUE-- I ASSUME

THE TECH AFFECT WAS

DISCOVERED WHEN SOMEONE WAS

SHOVING BACON INTO EVERY

AVAILABLE HOLE.

NOW DR. SONIA SARAIYA

EXPLAIN HOW THESE BACON

BLOCKERS WORK.

>> WE THINK IT WORKS BECAUSE

THE SALT IN THE PORK

ACTUALLY MAKES ALL THE

TISSUE IN THE NOSE SWELL UP.

WE FOUND OUT THAT PEOPLE IN

THE 1900s USED TO USE SALTED

PORK FOR CONTROLLING

BLEEDING.

>> YES, ALL THE BEST MEDICAL

IDEAS COME FROM THE EARLY

1900s.

THAT'S WHY I TREAT MY DROPSY

WITH DR. ARBUCKLE'S

SUSPENSION OF COCAINE AND

PINK TURE OF COCAINE.

DR. ARBUCKLES COMES WITH THE

COCAINE, STAY FOR THE

COCAINE.

AND THE NEWS THAT PORK COULD

BE A NASSAL TAMPON GOT

PRESCOTT TO WORK ON THE

WORLD'S FIRST ALL PORK

FEMININE HYGIENE PRODUCT,

HAMPAX, LADIES, IT'S PURE

CURED LAMB SO YOU WILL FEEL

AS FRESH AS A SPRING DAY

BEHIND A DELI COUNTER.

AND IT'S SO COMFORTABLE,

WHETHER YOU ARE RUNNING,

BIKING, OR FLEEING A PACK OF

DOGS, SIDE EFFECTS OF HAMPAX

INCLUDE PORK SHOULDER, THAT

TIME OF THE MUTTON, AND

SCHNITZEL WEINER.

NEXT UP, FOLKS, REPRODUCTIVE

HEALTH.

WE ALL KNOW THERE'S-- FOLKS,

WE ALL KNOW THERE'S BEEN A

MEDIA FIRESTORM OVER

CONTRACEPTION LATELY.

WOMEN WITHOUT USE BIRTH

CONTROL WANT TAXPAYERS TO

FOOT THE BILL.

EVEN THOUGH LAST TIME I

CHECKED CONTRACEPTION HAS

NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FOOT.

BESIDES, IF YOU WANT TO

AVOID GETTING PREGNANT

THERE'S ONLY ONE SUREFIRE

WAY.

BE A MAN.

ALTHOUGH, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN

MY PERIOD IN A WHILE.

SO ONCE AGAIN IT IS UP TO

MEN TO DO THE BABY BLOCKING.

SCIENTISTS AT UNC REPORT

THAT NEW DATA ON MALE RATS

SHOWS THAT EXPOSING TESTES

TO ULTRASOUND CAN SHUT DOWN

SPERM PRODUCTION WHICH COULD

LEAD TO AN EFFECTIVE

CONTRACEPTIVE.

CONTRACEPTIVE FOR RATS,

REALLY?

WHAT HAPPENED TO RAT

ABSTINENCE EDUCATION?

YOU CAN HAVE A PERFECTLY

GOOD TIME WHILE STOPPING AT

RAT THIRD BASE.

WALLOWING IN FECES.

BUT SINCE WOMEN REFUSE TO

BUY THEIR OWN BIRTH CONTROL

WITH THEIR HARD EARNED 75%

OF WHAT MEN MAKE, IF ALL

GUYS TO BLAST OUR TESTESES

WITH ULTRASOUND, WHICH IS

WHY PRESCOTT STUDIOS IS

PROUD TO PRESENT THE FIRST

CD FOR MEN, JOCK JAM.

AN ALBUM OF SPERM SCHRIFF

ELLING HITS.

HERE'S HOW IT WORKS.

SIMPLY SLIP ON A PAIR OF

JUNK CANCELLING HEAD PHONES,

THEN YOU'RE READY TO ROCK

OUT WITH YOUR [BLEEP] OUT.

WITH HITS LIKE NOT BORN IN

THE USA, GREAT BALLS OF

FIRING BLANKS, PAPA'S GOT A

BRAND-NEW BAG BUT IT'S

EMPTY.

AND MANY, MANY MORE.

SIDE EFFECTS OF JOCK JAMMED

INCLUDE NORWEGIAN WOOD,

CHUBBYWUMBAS AND SCROTAL

ECLIPSE OF THE HEART.

WELL,--

(APPLAUSE)

>> WELL, THAT'S IT FOR

CHEATING DEATH.

BROUGHT TO YOU BY PRESCOTT

PHARMACEUTICALS, WE NEVER

SETTLE FOR LESS.

WE SETTLE OUT OF COURT.

UNTIL NEXT TIME I'LL

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A

MacARTHUR GENIUS GRANT

RECIPIENT WHO LIVED FOR

THREE YEARS IN INDIA SLUMS.

HUH, YOU THINK A GENIUS

COULD HAVE FOUND A NICE

HOTEL.

PLEASE WELCOME KATHERINE

BOO.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

MISS BOO, THANK YOU SO MUCH

FOR COMING ON.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU ARE AN AMERICAN.

YOU WRITE FOR "THE NEW

YORKER", YOU USED TO WRIT

FOR "THE WASHINGTON POST".

ARE YOU THE RECIPIENT OF THE

PULITZER PRAISE AND A

MacARTHUR GENIUS GRANT, LA

DI DA, OKAY.

GENIUS GRANT PERSON, WHAT

NUMBER AM I THINKING OF?

>> 86, YOU CAN BUY THAT

[BLEEP].

>> REALLY?

>> UNDER THE TABLE MONEY.

>> YOU CAN BUY GENIUS GRANT.

>> UH-HUH, YEAH.

>> I HAVE TO GET ME ONE.

ARE YOU ALSO THE AUTHOR OF A

NEW BOOK, BEHIND THE

BEAUTIFUL FOREVERS.

LIFE, DEATH AND HOPE IN A

MUMBAI UNDERCITY.

WHAT IS AN UNDERCITY.

>> IT IS A PLACE THAT IS

INCREASINGLY HARD TO SEE

THESE DAYS, LOW INCOME

COMMUNITIES LIKE THOSE, LIKE

THE SLUMS IN MUMBAI, LAKE

MANY NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR

COUNTRY.

>> WHY CAN'T WE SEE THEM.

>> BECAUSE YOU ARE IN A

GATED COMMUNITY.

>> I AM IN MY GATED

COMMUNITY.

>> YOU HAVE YOUR TINTED

WINDOWS.

>> RIGHT AND I HAVE

SUNGLASSES THAT HAVE MIRRORS

ON THE INSIDE.

I SAW SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE,

OKAY S THAT WHAT THIS IS, IS

THIS SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE.

>> EXACTLY THERE IS NO SONG

AND DANCE THOUGH AT THE END.

>> THERE IS NO SONG AND

DANCE AT THE END.

>> NO SONG AND DANCE, NO.

ONLY TROUBLE IS THAT THESE

ARE REAL PEOPLE, LIKE ACTUAL

PEOPLE SO, WHEN ARE YOU

TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO

GETS BEATEN UP BY THE POLICE

OR SOMEBODY WHO GATHERS

GARBAGE FOR A LIVING, THOSE

ARE REAL PEOPLE, THEY DON'T

GET TO GO TO THE OSCARS

AFTERWARDS.

>> AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE

IN THE UNDERCITY THAT YOU

SPENT THREE YEARS GOING TO.

>> THIS ONE IS ON LAND OWNED

BY THE MUMBAI INTERNATIONAL

AIRPORT.

AND SO THERE ARE ABOUT

80,000, 90,000 FAMILIES

LIVER ON THIS LAND.

AND IF YOU TAKE A PLACE LIKE

LIKE-- ONLY SIX PEOPLE OUT

36,000 HAVE PERMANENT WORK.

>> WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF

POVERTY WE ARE TALKING

ABOUT.

YOU TALK ABOUT ONE YOUNG MAN

NAMED ABDUL WHO LIVES IN A

SHED FILLED WITH GARBAGE HE

COLLECTED AND HE IS FLIPPING

GARBAGE TRAYING TO MAKE

MONEY OFF OF IT.

>> UH-HUH.

>> IS THAT PERSON POOR BY

INDIAN STANDARDS.

>> NO, IN THIS SLUM, THIS

KIDS IS A KID WITHOUT HONOR

IN EVEN IN HIS OWN FAMILY,

HIS BROTHER IS SMARTER AND

COOLER.

BUT HE'S MANAGED TO SUPPORT

A FAMILY OF 11 BUYING AND

SELLING THE THINGS THAT RICH

PEOPLE THROW AWAY.

AND SO HE HAS GOT, WHEN THE

STORY BEGINS HE HAS PROSPECT

ITS BETTER THAN ALMOST

ANYBODY IN THE SLUM.

>> WHAT IS THE STANDARD OF

POVERTY IN INDIA IF THAT

PERSON ISN'T POOR.

>> IT'S LIKE THE IRAQ WAR.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU REDEFINE

WHAT WINNING IS OR REDEFINE

WHAT POVERTY IS, NOBODY'S

REALLY POOR.

>> WHY DON'T WE DO THAT

HERE.

WHEN YOU GO THERE AND SPEND

THREE YEARS LIVING WITH

PEOPLE WHO ARE BY OUR

STANDARDS ABJECTLY POOR.

>> UH-HUH.

>> WHAT DOES AMERICA LOOK

LIKE YOU TO WHEN YOU COME

BACK.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS

INCREDIBLY FIXABLE.

ALSO YOU TURN ON THE TAP, OH

PIE GOD, POTABLE WATER,

THAT'S AMAZING.

YEAH, I COME BACK HEAR AND I

THINK OH F WE WERE REALLY

SERIOUS ABOUT FIXING POVERTY

WE COULD DO IT LIKE HALF A

SECOND.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

IF IT'S FIXABLE, HOW DO WE

FIX IT.

OBVIOUSLY --

>> CUT THE TAXES OF THE

RICH.

>> KPABDLY.

>> I WILL SUGGEST THAT.

>> BECAUSE THAT TRICKLES

DOWN HERE.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I AM

TRYING TO SEE BY SPENDING

THE TLAE YEARS, EXACTLY WHAT

DOES TRICKLE DOWN.

>> DOES ANYTHING TRICKLE

DOWN.

>> IT IS A SOCIETY IN WHICH

CORRUPTION TAKES SO MUCH

OPPORTUNITY FROM THE POOR

THAT CORRUPTION ITSELF

BECOMES ONE OF THE

OPPORTUNITIES THAT REMAIN.

>> IF THERE WAS SOME ADVICE

YOU COULD GIVE AMERICAN

POLITICIANS, BASED UPON WHAT

YOU SEE AS THE FAILURES OF

THE INDIAN POLITICIANS OR DO

YOU THINK THIS COUNTRY IS

BEING GOVERNED WELL.

>> I THINK IT IS THE SAME

THING IN DELI AS IT IS IN

WASHINGTON.

THERE IS SO MUCH ENERGY

EXPENDED ON, YOU KNOW,

THINKING UP THE NEXT NEW

IDEA FOR FIXING POVERTY BUT

THERE IS VERY LITTLE

ATTENTION TO SAY, TO WHAT

ACTUALLY HAPPENS WHEN THAT

MONEY GETS TO THE POOR

PEOPLE ON THE STREET.

>> I MEAN, ONE OF THE

REASONS WHY, THE ONLY REASON

I WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE

POOR PEOPLE MONEY IS SO I

DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT

THEM ANY MORE.

AND THAT'S A DOLLAR WELL

SPENT.

BECAUSE IF I THINK ABOUT

THEM TOO MUCH I MIGHT WANT

TO GIVE THEM EVEN MORE

MONEY.

>> WE WOULDN'T WANT TO YOU

HAVE COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE.

>> NO I CAN'T GET COMPASSION

FAT AGENCY BECAUSE THEN I

WILL BE FAT AGENCIED.

--

>> DO JOURNALISTS HAVE A

FORM OF MISSIONARY WORK.

I MEAN IS THIS-- THIS MUST

HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY HARD,

TACKING WORK TO DO.

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN EASIER

WORK FOR TO YOU DO.

YOU COULD HAVE BEEN A FOOD

WRITER FOR A FEW YEARS.

>> YEAH.

I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, I

THINK THIS IS INCREDIBLY

COOL WORK TO DO BECAUSE I

GET TO SPEND MY DAYS WITH

PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING

INTERESTING THINGS AND WHO

ARE, I FIND TO BE INSPIRING

ON SO MANY LEVELS.

SO I ACTUALLY FIND THAT IT

IS A REASONABLE WAY TO MAKE

A LIVING.

>> WAS IT HARD.

>> SURE IT WAS HARD.

>> WHY WORK AT SOMETHING

HARD.

I WORK HALF AN HOUR A NIGHT.

KATHERINE BOO, THANK SO MUCH

NOR JOINING ME.

KATHERINE BOO, THE BOOK IS

BEHIND THE BEAUTIFUL

FOREVERS.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> S THIS'S IT FOR THE

REPORT, EVERYBODY.