March 25, 2014 - Jimmy Carter

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Former president Jimmy Carter visits The Report to discuss his lifelong passion for human rights and his book "A Call to Action."

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>>> WELCOME TO THE REPORT, THANK

YOU FOR JOINING US.

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IF YOU'RE JUST TUNING IN TO OURPROGRAM ALREADY IN PROGRESS, YOU

ARE HERE ON AN HISTORIC NIGHTBECAUSE

I AM ABOUT TO GO HEAD-TO-HEADKNEE-TO-KNEE, AND IF THINGS GO

WELL, HAND-TO-KNEE, WITH THE39TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES.

JIMMY CARTER.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT MY FIRST

PRESIDENTIAL RODEO.

I SAT DOWN FOR A ONE-ON-ONE WITHPRESIDENT OBAMA AND 500 GUESTS

AT A STATE DINNER.

I MADE A SCIENCE PROJECT WITHBILL CLINTON.

ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, I PUTGEORGE WASHINGTON INTO A VENDING

MACHINE.

AND WHILE TOURING THE NATION'SCAPITAL, I EVEN SAT DOWN WITH

ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

[ LAUGHTER ][ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]

SADLY, HE DID NOT BRING THEGIFTS I WANTED THAT CHRISTMAS.

BUT I CANNOT OVERSTATE HOW HUGETONIGHT IS.

THE SIZE OF THE HUGENESS --LARGE.

THIS NIGHT WILL GO DOWN IN THEANNALS OF EPIC CLASHES BETWEEN

JOURNALIST AND LEADER.

FROST NIXON.

WALLACE-KHOMEINI.

ASTEROID-FREEMAN.

BUT TONIGHT IS HISTORIC FORANOTHER REASON, BECAUSE

FOLLOWING OUR BROADCAST, THISEPISODE IS GOING TO BE PLAYED IN

PERPETUITY FOR VISITORS AT THECARTER PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND

MUSEUM IN PLAINS, GEORGIA.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]SO, RIGHT NOW, NOT ONLY AM I

SPEAKING TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLEWATCHING TV, I'M ALSO

SPEAKING TO SEVERAL DOZENTOURISTS SITTING ON BENCHES.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]HI, Y'ALL!

IF YOU NEED THE BATHROOM, GODOWN THE HALL, TURN RIGHT, AND

ASK SOMEONE.

I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE.

I ASSUME THEY HAVE BATHROOMS.

OF COURSE, AS A CONSERVATIVEPUNDIT, TONIGHT'S INTERVIEW HAS

TREMENDOUS PERSONAL SIGNIFICANCETO ME.

AS A BOY COMING OF AGE IN THE1970'S, JIMMY CARTER WAS THE

VERY FIRST LIBERAL WHO MADE MYBLOOD BOIL.

SO IN SOME WAYS, I HAVE BEENPREPARING FOR TONIGHT'S

INTERVIEW MY ENTIRE LIFE, BUTSPECIFICALLY STARTING ABOUT

THREE HOURS AGO.

FIRST, A LITTLE BACKGROUND ONTHE MAN YOU'VE NAMED YOUR

BUILDING AFTER.

JIM?

>> STEPHEN COLBERT PRESENTS --[ MUSIC ]

-- PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER.

THE COLBERT INTERVIEW.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: WELCOME TO THE

STEPHEN T. COLBERT NATIONALMUSEUM OF

JIMMY CARTER-ING.

JAMES EARL JONES CARTER, JR. WASBORN OCTOBER 1, 1924 IN PLAINS,

GEORGIA, THE ELDEST OF FOURCHILDREN TO BESSIE LILLIAN GORDY

AND JAMES EARL CARTER, APROMINENT PEANUT FARMER, WHICH

IS WHY TO THIS DAYCARTER MUST WEAR A LABEL

READING:"WARNING: MANUFACTURED IN A

FACILITY THATPROCESSES PEANUTS."

AFTER GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL,CARTER ATTENDED THE U.S. NAVAL

ACADEMY AND APPLIED TO WORK ONTHE FLEDGLING NUCLEAR SUBMARINE

PROGRAM.

IN 1952, HE DASHED INTO AMALFUNCTIONING NUCLEAR

REACTOR TO HELP SHUT IT DOWN.

AFTERWARDS, HE CELEBRATED HISSUCCESS BY DESTROYING TOKYO.

AFTER HIS FATHER PASSED AWAY IN1953, CARTER RETURNED HOME TO

RUN THE FAMILY BUSINESS, ENDINGA PROMISING NAVAL CAREER.

SADLY, HE NEVER ROSE ABOVE THERANK OF "COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF."

CARTER'S FAMILY THEN FELL ONHARD TIMES AND BRIEFLY LIVED IN

A GEORGIA HOUSING PROJECT,MAKING HIM THE ONLY PRESIDENT TO

HAVE "LIVED" IN PUBLICHOUSING...

OTHER THAN ALL OF THEM.

IN 1970, CARTER WAS ELECTEDGOVERNOR OF GEORGIA.

DID SOME STUFF, PROBABLY.

THEN, IN 1976, CARTER BECAME THEFIRST PRESIDENT SINCE ZACHARY

TAYLOR ELECTED FROM THE DEEPSOUTH.

NATURALLY, HE WAS SWORN IN ON ACHICKEN-FRIED BIBLE.

IN 1977, CARTER GAVE AWAY "OUR"CANAL TO SOME PLACE CALLED

PANAMA, ENRAGING A MAN I LIKE TOCALL RONALD REAGAN.

RONALD WILSON REAGAN WAS BORN IN19 --

WHAT'S THAT?

WRONG LIBRARY?

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

LET'S GET HIM ON.

OKAY.

IN 1979, PRESIDENT CARTERNEGOTIATED THE

CAMP DAVID ACCORDS, WHICHBROUGHT PEACE BETWEEN EGYPT AND

ISRAEL, MARKING A PERIOD OFTRANQUILITY IN THE MIDDLE EAST

THAT LASTED ALMOST 20 MINUTES.

DURING THE OIL CRISIS, CARTERSET AN ENERGY CONSERVATION

EXAMPLE AT THE WHITE HOUSE,WHERE HE TURNED DOWN THE

THERMOSTATSWORE SWEATERS TO KEEP WARM,

INSTALLED SOLAR PANELS ON THEROOF AND ATTACHED A

WINDMILL TO WALTER MONDALE.

1979 ALSO MARKED THE BEGINNINGOF THE IRAN HOSTAGE CRISIS, WHEN

OUR TEHRAN EMBASSY WAS STORMED,AND 52 AMERICANS WERE HELD

HOSTAGE, RESULTING IN A LOWAPPROVAL RATING FOR CARTER, AND

AN EVEN LOWER TRIP ADVISORRATING FOR THE IRANIAN EMBASSY.

RESCUE ATTEMPTS FAILED, BECAUSE,SADLY, AT THE TIME, BEN AFFLECK

WAS ONLY SEVEN YEARS OLD.

[ LAUGHTER ]ON JULY 15TH 1979, JIMMY CARTER

GAVE HISINFAMOUS "MALAISE" SPEECH,

WHICH, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH,DIDN'T

ACTUALLY CONTAIN THE WORD"MALAISE."

JUST LIKE HOW DURING F.D.R.'SFIRESIDE CHATS, HE WASN'T

ACTUALLY ON FIRE.

NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

IN 1980, CARTER DEFEATED TEDKENNEDY IN A HARD-FOUGHT

PRIMARY, AND WENT ON TO WIN THEGREATEST TITLE OF ALL, THE MAN

WHO LOST TO RONALD REAGAN.

RONALD WILSON REAGAN WAS BORN INTAMPICO, ILLINOIS --

WHAT?

STILL NOT DOING REAGAN?

FINE.

DEAL'S A DEAL.

AFTER HIS LOSS TO REAGAN,PRESIDENT CARTER BECAME "FORMER"

PRESIDENT CARTER, A TITLE HE HASSUCCESSFULLY DEFENDED FOR 33

YEARS, INCLUDING A 1987 SPLITDECISION AGAINST HECTOR "MACHO"

CAMACHO.

I LOST A "LOT" OF MONEY ON THAT.

WITHIN YEARS OF LEAVING OFFICE,JIMMY CARTER FOUNDED THE CARTER

CENTER, A HUMANITARIANORGANIZATION WHICH HAS FOUGHT

FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND DISEASEPREVENTION.

AND FOR THREE DECADES, HE HASWORKED WITH HABITAT FOR

HUMANITY, BUILDING HOUSES FORTHE POOR ALL OVER THE WORLD --

IN AN OBVIOUS ATTEMPT TO LAUNCHHIS HGTV SHOW, "NAIL TO THE

CHIEF."

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]IN 2002, JIMMY CARTER WAS

AWARDED THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE,MAKING HIM THE ONLY NATIVE

GEORGIAN BESIDES MARTIN LUTHERKING TO HAVE WON THE

AWARD.

BUT GOOD LUCK NEXT YEAR.

HULK HOGAN.

IN SUMMATION, WHEN TALKING ABOUTOUR NATION'S PRESIDENTS, HISTORY

WILL RECOGNIZE JIMMY CARTER WASONE OF THEM.

CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

BACK TO YOU, STEPHEN.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]THANK YOU, STEPHEN.

WHEN WE RETURN, I WILL SIT DOWNWITH THE 39TH PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES.

WHO'S THAT?

YOU'LL HAVE TO STICK AROUND TOFIND OUT.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Stephen: MY GUEST TONIGHTIS THE FORMER LEADER OF THE FREE

WORLD.

PLEASE WELCOME FORMER PRESIDENTJIMMY CARTER!

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

PRESIDENT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FORBEING HERE.

IT HAS BEEN A LONG-TIME GOAL OFMINE TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW SO

I CAN TAKE YOU TO TASK FOR YOURLIBERAL WAYS.

>> I HAVE BEEN EXPECTING THAT.

>> Stephen: HAVE YOU EVER SEENTHE SHOW YOU'RE ON?

>> YES.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

[ LAUGHTER ]DID YOU KNOW I'VE GOT A BONE TO

PICK WITH YOUR PRESIDENCY ANDYOUR LEGACY.

WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A MOMENT.

YOU'VE GOT A BRAND-NEW BOOK.

>> I HAVE, YES.

>> Stephen: "A CALL TOREACTION, WOMEN, RELIGION,

VIOLENCE AND POWER."

FIRST OF ALL, JUST FROM THESUBTITLE, THIS ISN'T ONE OF

THOSE 50 SHADES, RIGHT?

[ LAUGHTER ]YOU'VE WRITTEN ABOUT A DOZEN

BOOKS AT THIS POINT.

>> 28.

>> Stephen: 28 BOOKS.

BUT WHO'S COUNTING?

[ CHEERING ]I UNDERSTAND A CALL TO ACTION,

SIR.

WHAT DO WOMEN, RELIGION,VIOLENCE AND POWER HAVE TO DO

WITH EACH OTHER?

THEY SEEM LIKE UNRELATED TOPICS.

I UNDERSTAND THE VIOLENCE AND IASSUME THE POWER, BUT WHAT DOES

RELIGION HAVE TO DO WITH IT?

RELIGION IS THE GREATEST FORCEFOR THE GOOD -- AS LONG AS

YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN.

AND THE WORLD.

>> AND AS LONG AS YOU TAKE YOURRELIGION FROM JESUS CHRIST.

THAT'S TRUE.

>> Stephen: I'M A CHRISTIAN,ARE YOU?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen: GREAT.

YOU'RE NOT A BAPTIST YET.

>> Stephen: I'M NOT A BAPTIST.

I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT ACATHOLIC YET.

>> NO, NOT YET.

>> Stephen: THERE'S STILLTIME, SIR.

>> I'M THINKING ABOUT IT.

I HAVE TWO PROVISIONS TO BECATHOLIC.

IF POPE FRANCIS STAYS ON INOFFICE AND WHEN A FEMALE

CATHOLIC PRIEST ASKS ME TO JOINHER CHURCH.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ][ CHANTING ]

>> Stephen: THOSE ARE YOURDEMANDS.

JIMMY CARTER HAS DRAWN A LINE INTHE SAND.

[ LAUGHTER ]ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.

HAVE YOU TOLD THE POPE THIS?

>> I WROTE THE POPE A LETTERABOUT THIS BOOK AND ABOUT THE

PROBLEM WITH WOMEN'S ABUSE, ANDHE SENT ME A VERY WONDERFUL

LETTER BACK, AND HE SAID THAT HEAGREED WITH MANY THINGS THAT I

TOLD HIM ABOUT, WHICH HE ALREADYKNEW, I'M SURE, AND SAID, IN HIS

OPINION IN THE FUTURE YEARS,WOMEN NEEDED TO PLAY A MUCH

GREATER ROLE IN THE CATHOLICCHURCH THAN THEY WERE PLAYING

NOW OR HAVE PLAYED IN THE PAST.

>> Stephen: SO WHAT DO YOUTHINK THE NEGATIVE END OF

RELIGION IS WHEN IT RELATES TOWOMEN?

[ APPLAUSE ]THANK YOU.

I DID ASK THAT QUESTION WELL,THANK YOU.

[ LAUGHTER ]WHAT'S THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF

RELIGION?

>> WELL, IF YOU READ JUST THEWORDS AND ACTIONS OF JESUS

CHRIST, HE EXALTED WOMEN.

HE NEVER MADE ANY INSINUATIONTHAT WOMEN WERE INFERIOR IN ANY

WAY.

>> Stephen: BUT HE ONLY PICKED12 MALE APOSTLES.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: DON'T CRITICIZEJESUS, WATCH IT.

>> WHEN PAUL WROTE HIS LETTERSTO ASIA MINOR, HE WROTE TO THE

INDIVIDUAL CHURCHES ABOUT THEIRPROBLEMS AND SOME OF THE WORDS

OF PAUL AS OUR CHIEF RELIGIOUSTHEOLOGIANS FOR CHRISTIANS CAN

BE INTERPRETED EITHER WAY.

IF YOU ARE A MALE RELIGIOUSLEADER AND WANT TO STAY IN POWER

AND NOT WANT WOMEN CHALLENGERS,YOU CAN PICK SOME OF THE THINGS

PAUL SAID.

>> Stephen: MEN LOVE YOURWIVES, WIVES OBEY YOUR HUSBAND.

>> AND SAYS HUSBANDS AND WIVESSHOULD RESPECT TO THE OTHER AND

THEN GOES ON.

>> Stephen: RIGHT.

BUT PAUL WROTE TO THEGALATIANS SAYING THERE'S NO

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MAN ANDWOMAN, SLAVE AND MASTER, GENTILE

OR JEW, EVERYONE'S EQUAL IN THEEYES OF GOD.

SO THERE ARE 36,000 OR SO VERSESIN THE BIBLE AND YOU CAN CHOOSE

ONE OR THE OTHER ONES IF YOUWANT TO --

>> Stephen: THAT'S WHAT'SGREAT ABOUT AMERICA.

OUR FREEDOM OF RELIGION ALLOWSME TO INTERPRET THE BIBLE

EXACTLY AS MY WORLD VIEWALREADY.

>> YEAH, I NOTICED THAT ON YOURSHOW.

>> Stephen: YEP.

[ APPLAUSE ]IF I READ THIS BOOK, MY PROBLEM

WITH LIBERALS IS THEY'RE ALWAYSTRYING TO MAKE ME FEEL GUILTY

ABOUT THINGS.

AS A WHITE, CHRISTIAN, MALE,UPPER-CLASS GUY, AM I GOING TO

FEEL GUILTY IF I READ THIS BOOK?

BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE SO MUCHGUILT.

I ALREADY FEEL -- YOU KNOW, IFEEL GUILTY ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE,

ABOUT WOMEN NOW.

A BLACK WOMAN WALKS IN THE ROOM,I'VE GOT TO LEAVE.

TOO MUCH FOR ME TO HANDLE.

WILL THIS MAKE ME FEEL BAD?

>> NOT UNLESS YOU'RE IN FAVOR OFABUSING GIRLS ON THE CAMPUS OR

IN THE MILITARY.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

OR UNLESS YOU'RE IN FAVOR OFSLAVERY.

>> Stephen: NO.

SLAVERY IS A WORSE PROBLEMNOW THAN IN THE 19th CENTURY.

>> Stephen: WAIT A SECOND --IT'S TRUE.

>> Stephen: WE HADINSTITUTIONALIZED SLAVERY THEN.

>> I KNOW.

80% OF SLAVES SOLD ACROSS THEBORDERS ARE LITTLE GIRLS SOLD

INTO SEXUAL SLAVERY AND THISCOMES FROM THE U.S. STATE

DEPARTMENT IN WHICH I'M SURE YOUHAVE CONFIDENCE WHEN A

REPUBLICAN IS THERE.

[ APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: WELL, WE HAVE TO

TAKE A LITTLE BREAK.

WHEN WE COME BACK, LET'S TALKABOUT THE TIME THERE WAS A

DEMOCRAT THERE NAMED SERIOUSLYJAMES EARL CARTER.

WILL YOU STICK AROUND?

>> I'LL THINK ABOUT IT.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Stephen: WE'RE BACK WITHPRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER.

NOW, PRESIDENT CARTER, YOU ARENOW 32 YEARS, FIVE PRESIDENCIES

REMOVED FROM OFFICE BUT YOUNEVER RETIRED.

>> NO.

>> Stephen: YOU FOUNDED THECARTER CENTER AND HAVE BEEN

TRAVELING AROUND THE WORLDWORKING TO ERADICATE DISEASE,

TRYING TO PROMOTE DEMOCRACYAROUND THE WORLD.

DO OTHER EX-PRESIDENTS CALL YOUUP AND SAY, PLEASE KNOCK IT OFF?

SOME OF US WOULD LIKE TO RELAX.

BECAUSE YOU INVENTED THE IDEA OFTHE POST-PRESIDENCY.

WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO DO THAT?

>> I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSETO DO.

>> Stephen: YOU WERE BORED?

I WAS ONE OF THE YOUNGERGRADUATES OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND

I HAD BEEN DEFEATED,INVOLUNTARILY RETIRED BY THE

ELECTION IN 1980 THANKS TO YOUAND OTHER PEOPLE THAT VOTED THE

WRONG WAY.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> Stephen: I WAS ONLY 16 AT

THE TIME.

>> OKAY, OKAY.

AND A I'M A PROFESSOR AT EMORYUNIVERSITY AND HAVE BEEN NOW FOR

32 YEARS, BUT THAT, WRITINGBOOKS AND RUNNING THE CARTER

CENTER IS ABOUT THE ONLY THING IHAVE TO DO BESIDES RUNNING A

FAMILY.

I HAVE 12 GRANDCHILDREN AND 9GREAT GRANDCHILDREN, SO I HAVE A

BIG FAMILY, AND I HAVE TO TAKECARE -- I'M STILL GETTING

ACQUAINTED WITH MY WIFE ROSALYNNAFTER 68 YEARS.

[ CHEERS ]>> Stephen: DOES SHE EVER SAY,

YOU KNOW, FOR PETE'S SAKE,JIMMY, YOU HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT

FOR FOUR YEARS, KICK BACK ANDHAVE A BILLY BEER.

DID YOU EVER HAVE ONE OF YOURBROTHER'S BEERS WHEN YOU WERE

PRESIDENT?

>> HE ADVISED ME NOT TO DRINKIT.

>> Stephen: I HAVE A SIX-PACK.

WANT TO OPEN ONE UP?

>> NO, THANKS.

THEY'RE VERY VALUABLE, BY THEWAY.

>> Stephen: IT'S NOW PAYINGFOR MY COLLEGE EDUCATION.

OKAY, HERE'S MY BEEF WITH YOU.

WHY ARE YOU OUT THERE BUILDINGHOUSES FOR POOR PEOPLE?

HAVE YOU NOT READ AYN RAND?

WHEN YOU GIVE POOR PEOPLETHINGS, YOU ENSLAVE THEM TO YOUR

CHARITY, IT'S AN ACT OFVIOLENCE.

I CAN'T DO ANYTHING FOR MYSELF,JIMMY CARTER'LL DO IT FOR ME.

I CAN'T REACH THE REMOTE, JIMMYCARTER, GET IT FOR ME.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

>> I UNDERSTAND.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE HELPED BUILDHOUSES FOR 31 YEARS AND WE NEVER

BUILT A HOUSE THAT THE FAMILYTHAT LIVED IN THE HOUSE DIDN'T

WORK TWICE AS LONG AND TWICE ASHARD AS WE DID, SO WE REQUIRE

THEM TO WORK ON IT.

[ APPLAUSE ]AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO PAY FULL

PRICE.

>> Stephen: THEY HAVE TO PAYFOR THE HOUSE?

>> THEY HAVE TO PAY FULL PRICE.

>> Stephen: OH, SO YOU'RE NOTSUCH A NICE GUY!

I THOUGHT YOU WERE A NICE GUY!

>> WE DON'T CHARGE THEM ANYINTEREST.

THEY HAVE 20 YEARS TO PAY ANDDON'T HAVE TO PAY INTEREST.

WHAT BIBLE SAYS AS YOU WELL KNOWAS A CHRISTIAN THAT YOU DON'T

CHARGE INTEREST TO A POORPERSON, SO WE DON'T CHARGE ANY

INTEREST.

[ APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: NOW, HARRY

TRUMAN -- AS I SAID, YOU HAVEBEEN OUT OF THE PRESIDENCY 32

YEARS AND OUT IN THE WORLDWORKING, HARRY TRUMAN SAID THE

HIGHEST TITLE A PERSON CANACHIEVE IS THE TITLE OF CITIZEN.

HOW DOES IT COMPARE TOPRESIDENT?

>> IT'S SUPERIOR.

OBVIOUSLY, THE CITIZENS OFAMERICA ARE THE PRESIDENT'S

BOSSES AND CAN REMOVE HIM FROMOFFICE IF THEY CHOOSE, WHICH I

HAVE EXPERIENCED.

>> Stephen: UNLESS HE'S SPYINGON THEM, THEN HE KNOWS WHEN

THEY'RE COMING FOR HIM.

>> YEAH.

[ APPLAUSE ]>> Stephen: NOW, YOU SAID THAT

YOU BELIEVE THAT THE NSA ISPROBABLY MONITORING YOUR E-MAILS

AND, THEREFORE, IF YOU WANT TOBE

PRIVATE, YOU SEND SNAIL MAIL.

>> I DO.

>> Stephen: THE N.S.A. TODAYSAID, NO, PRESIDENT CARTER IS

WRONG, WE ARE NOT MONITORING HISE-MAILS SO, GOOD NEWS, YOU CAN

START WRITING E-MAILS AGAIN ANDTHE N.S.A. WON'T LOOK AT THEM.

>> A FEW WEEKS AGO THEY TOLD THECONGRESS THEY DIDN'T MONITOR

ANYONE IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> Stephen: SO WE'RE ALL FINE.

YES.

>> Stephen: DO YOU HAVE ARELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESIDENT?

>> YES, A VERY FRIENDLYRELATIONSHIP.

>> Stephen: DOES HE CALL YOUFOR ADVICE?

>> NO.

BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, I HAVEBEEN OUT OF OFFICE, AS YOU SAID,

30-SOMETHING YEARS AND I THINKWHEN HE WANTS TO GET ADVICE, HE

GETS IT FROM THE MOST RECENTPRESIDENTS, WHICH I DID.

>> Stephen: DID YOU HAVE ARELATIONSHIP WITH THE PRESIDENTS

WHO CAME BEFORE YOU?

BEFORE YOU WERE PRESIDENT,L.B.J. WAS GONE.

>> HE WAS GONE AND TRUMAN WASGONE.

I ONLY HAD TWO LIVING PRESIDENTSWHEN I WAS PRESIDENT, GERALD

FORD AND RICHARD NIXON, AND THEYHELPED ME WITH KEY ISSUES, MIGHT

SAY LIKE FRATERNITY BROTHERSHAVING GRADUATED FROM THE SAME

SCHOOL.

>> Stephen: WAS THERE AHAZING?

>> I WENT THROUGH A HAZING WHENI RAN AGAINST GERALD FORD, BUT

LATER, WHEN I DEFEATED HIM,SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, HE AND I

BECAME, ACCORDING TO THEHISTORIANS, THE TWO CLOSEST

FRIENDS THAT EVER GRADUATED FROMTHE WHITE HOUSE.

>> Stephen: ARE THEY RIGHTABOUT THAT?

>> THEY'RE RIGHT.

>> Stephen: WHEN PRESIDENTOBAMA WAS INAUGURATED, THERE'S A

PHOTO OF ALL FIVE LIVINGPRESIDENTS STANDING WITH EACH

OTHER.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: YOU'RE STANDING ALITTLE BIT OFF FROM EVERYBODY.

DO YOU ENJOY HANGING OUT WITHTHE OTHER PRESIDENTS?

>> YEAH, I REALLY DO, YEAH.

>> Stephen: DO YOU GUYS GETTOGETHER AND DO THINGS?

>> IN THE SOUTH, WE DON'T GETALL THAT CLOSE TO OTHER MEN, YOU

KNOW.

[ LAUGHTER ]>> Stephen: JIMMY CARTER,

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER.

HIS BOOK IS "A CALL TO ACTION."

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]THAT'S IT FOR THE REPORT,

EVERYBODY, GOODNIGHT.

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