March 10, 2011 - Reza Aslan

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Al Qaeda recruits Americans, and Reza Aslan talks about the Islamic-American experience.

>> WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS HERE TO

TALK ABOUT HOW SUSPICIOUS

AMERICANS ARE OF MUSLIMS.

AND I THINK HE'S A MUSLIM.

PLEASE WELCOME REZA ASLAN.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> REZA, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> WELCOME BACK.

>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

>> I GOT TO SAY THE FIRST

COUPLE OF TIMES YOU WERE

HERE I WAS NOT SCARED OF YOU,

OKAY.

NOW YOU KNOW BETTER.

>> HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO

PULL THAT OFF.

BECAUSE NOW I KNOW I SHOULD

BE SUSPICIOUS OF YOU.

>> YES, I'M HERE TO TELL THE

TRUTH TO AMERICA, WHICH

IS --

>> BUT ISN'T THAT WHAT

HAPPENED TODAY.

PETER KING HELD THESE

HEARINGS TO FIND OUT THE

TRUTH.

WHY ARE YOU AGAINST THE

TRUTH.

>> NO, I MEANS THAT'S WHAT I

WAS GOING TO SAY, THAT THE

TRUTH IS THAT WE MUSLIMSES

HAVE COME TO AMERICA TO EAT

YOUR BABIES.

(LAUGHTER)

>> AND --

>> DOES THAT FEEL GOOD.

>> IT DOES.

I GOT IT OUT.

NO, LOOK, THERE IS A SERIOUS

PROBLEM WITH HOME GROUP

TERRORISM IN THIS COUNTRY.

>> THE FT. HOOD ATTACK.

THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT

THAT.

BUT USUALLY WHEN CONGRESS

TACKLES SERIOUS PROBLEMS

THEY BRING IN EXPERTS TO

TESTIFY AND THAT IS NOT WHAT

IS HAPPENING.

YOU HAVE GOT THIS GROUP OF

INDIVIDUALS BEING ASKED TO

GIVE PERSONAL OPINIONS ON

MATTERS THEY ARE NOT

QUALIFIED TO TESTIFY ABOUT.

>> YOU ARE SAYING ONLY THE

ELITE-- YOU ARE SAYING

EXPERTS.

LET ME SAY, ARE YOU AN

EXPERT?

(LAUGHTER)

>> WELL, IT TURNS OUT THAT I

DID WRITE A Ph.D

DISSERTATION ON RADICALLIZATION

OF MUSLIMS.

>> OH, NO.

>> IF WE WERE GOING TO HAVE

LIKE CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS

ON GLOBAL WARMINGING WE

WOULD HAVE SCIENTISTS

TESTIFY, NOT JUST SOME

RANDOM GUY FROM MINNESOTA

TALKING ABOUT HOW HOT THE

WEATHER IS.

SCIENTISTS AND MINISTERS.

>> WE WOULD HAVE BOTH OF

THEM IN THERE.

>> BOTH SIDES.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> BOTH SIDES OF THE DEBATE.

>> BUT YOU THINK THAT THIS

IS A WITCH-HUNT, RIGHT?

>> NO.

>> WE ARE DEMONIZING MUSLIMS,

THAT IS WHAT ARE YOU SAYING.

>> I DON'T THINK IT IS A

WITCH-HUNT.

I THINK IT IS A USELESS

ENTERPRISE.

THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE AND

IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN

SERIOUSLY AN INSTEAD WHAT

WE'VE GOT IS THIS POLITICAL

STUNT BY A MAN WHO KEEPS

THROWING OUT THESE

RIDICULOUS STATEMENTS ABOUT

HOW 85% OF MUSLIMS ARE

RADICALLIZED AND NEVER

BROTHERS TO-- BOTHERS TO

CITE ANY STATISTIC.

>> HE DID NOT SAY 58% ARE

RADICALLIZED, HE SAID 85% OF

MOSQUES WERE RADICALLIZED.

HE SAID THIS IS NOT

TARGETING MUSLIMS IN

GENERAL.

HE ALSO SAID THAT THE VAST

MAJORITY OF MUSLIMSES ARE

GOOD LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS.

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH

THAT.

>> THAT'S LIKE SAYING I

DON'T WANT TO HANG AROUND

WITH BLACK PEOPLE, BUT SOME

OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE

BLACK.

IT'S JUST --

>> SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS

ARE BLACK, SIR.

OH, SHOULD I NOT HAVE BLACK

FRIENDS WHO IS THE RACIST

NOW.

>> HOW MANY MUSLIM FRIENDS

DO YOU HAVE.

>> SOME OF THE BLACK GUYS

COULD BE MUSLIM.

I DON'T ASK.

I DON'T WANT TO EMBARRASS

THEM.

>> DO THEIR NAMES END IN X?

>> WHAT.

>> NEVER MIND.

>> ARE YOU A MUSLIM.

>> I SUSPECTED THAT YOU WERE,

THAT IS WHY I INVITED YOU

HERE.

>> ARE WE FRIENDS.

>> WE ARE VERY GOOD FRIENDS,

THEN ARE YOU MY MUSLIM

FRIEND.

>> FROM NOW ON, REZA ASLAN,

MY MUSLIM FRIEND.

THE ISSUE IS ISN'T THE FACT

THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A

PROBLEM.

IT IS A PROBLEM.

BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS

PROBLEM SERIOUSLY.

AND INSTEAD WHAT WE'RE DOING

IS JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF

GIVING IN TO THIS RIDICULOUS

RHETORIC ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE

ENEMY WITHIN.

AND HOW YOU KNOW THERE IS

RADICALLIZATION OF --

>> BUT THERE IS AN ENEMY

WITHIN.

>> THERE IS AN ENEMY

WITHIN YOU CAN LAUGH IT AWAY

ALL YOU WANT, SIR.

BUT SOME OF YOUR FELLOW

MUSLIMS HAVE IT IN FOR THE

UNITED STATES.

AND SO --

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> SO ISN'T IT BETTER TO YOU

KNOW, BURN THE ENTIRE

HAYSTACK TO FIND THE

NEEDLES?

>> WELL, LOOK--

(LAUGHTER)

>> SHOULD WE HAVE EVERY QAT

LICK TESTIFY AGAINST

PEDOPHILIA.

>> WER'S NOT TALKING ABOUT

CATHOLICS HERE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT

CATHOLICS HERE.

DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

MUSLIMSES, JEEZ.

>> I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE ARE

TALKING BEING MUSLIMS.

BUT WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY FACE

THE FACT AND DEAL WITH THE

DATA.

AND THE DATA AS LEE BACA

HIMSELF WHO TESTIFIED TODAY

SAID, IS THAT SINCE 2011

THERE -- 2001 THERE HAS

ACTUALLY BEEN MORE VIOLENT

EXTREMIST PLOTS AGAINST THE

UNITED STATES BY NONMUSLIMS

THAN BY MUSLIMS.

SO LET'S ACTUALLY DEAL WITH

THE PROBLEM AT HAND.

>> BUT THOSE ARE ALL

DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE

DOING THAT.

>> COME ON.

>> I MEAN LISTEN, GET TO

THAT.

WE'LL GET TO THAT YOU HAVE

TO TAKE THINGS ONE THING AT

A TIME.

AND IT IS HARD TO GENERALIZE

ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE

THEY DON'T SELF-ORGANIZE.

>> VERY GOOD POINT.

>> IN THE SAME WAY YOU GUYS

DO.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU GUYS MAKE A HANDY

TARGET.

IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE A

TARGET, YOU SHOULD --

>> STOP BEING MUSLIM.

>> THERE YOU GO, YEAH.

EASY, WHY NOT.

EAT A LITTLE PORK.

>> LET'S GET SOME BACON AND

WINE HERE.

>> GO TO CHURCH ONCE IN A

WHILE, WOULD IT KILL YOU?

(LAUGHTER)

>> YOU GUYS BELIEVE IN JESUS,

RIGHT.

YOU BELIEVE IN THE JESUS.

>> BUT LOOK, I'M SAYING

THAT --

>> WE DO BELIEVE IN THE

JESUS.

>> YES, DOW.

>> IF WE ARE GOING TO

ACTUALLY DEAL WITH MUSLIM

RADICALLIZATION WHICH IS A

PROBLEM T HAS TO BE DEALT

WITH.

>> WHEN WERE YOU

RADICALLIZED.

>> AFTER THE SHOW, WE'LL

TALK.

>> OKAY.

>> BUT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH

IT AS AN ACTUAL PROBLEM AND

BRING IN PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY

CAN TALK ABOUT IT, TO TALK

ABOUT THE DATA.

>> WHO WOULD YOU HAVE

BROUGHT IN.

>> ME?

>> I KNEW IT.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID AT THE

BEGINNING THIS IS ALL ABOUT

GET ARE YOUR BEAK WET HERE

THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE PRESS.

>> THE ENTIRE WEST POINT

TERRORISM CENTER, THE PEOPLE

AT THE TRIANGLE CENTER FOR

FERR RICH AND HOMELAND

SECURITY WHICH BY THE WAY

SAID THAT DESPITE WHAT PETER

KING SAID ALMOST HALF OF ALL

TERRORIST CONVICTIONS IN THE

LAST TWO YEARS WERE TURNED

IN BY MUSLIMS SO THIS IDEA

THAT MUSLIMS AREN'T --

>> YOU GUYS CAN'T EVEN TRUST

EACH OTHER.

>> THE POINT IS THAT --

>> THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

>> THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOBS

AS AMERICANS AND ACTUALLY

TURNING IN THEIR OWN WHEN

THEY SEE RADICALLIZATION

UNLIKE WHAT PETER KING KEEPS

SAYING.

AND BY THE WAY I WOULD JUST

LIKE PETER KING TO GIVE ME

ONE SET OF DATA, ONE

RESEARCH, ONE STATISTIC THAT

ACTUALLY PROVES THAT MUSLIMS

AREN'T ACTUALLY COOPERATING.

ALL HE KEEPS SAYING IS THAT

OH, I HEAR IT FROM PEOPLE.

WHICH IS, I HAVE HEARD FROM

PEOPLE THAT PETER KING IS A

DICK.

(LAUGHTER)

>> I DON'T KNOW-- I DON'T

HAVE ANY DATA.

I DON'T HAVE ANY PROOF.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY

RESEARCH.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT.

>> I JUST HEAR IT, I FEEL T

I FEEL IT

(APPLAUSE)

>> I FEEL IT.

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S HOLD

SOME HEARING