June 11, 2013 - Daniel Bergner

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The National Security Agency's cyber snooping is revealed, the TSA targets Chewbacca, and Daniel Bergner uses science to discover what turns women on.

>> Stephen: TONIGHT THE NSA

SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM CALLED

PRISM, HAVEN'T HEARD OF IT?

IT'S HEARD OF YOU.

(LAUGHTER)

THEN THIS TRAVEL SEASON THE

TSA IS TRACKING DOWN, SO

MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE

ANYTHING DOWN YOUR CRACK.

(LAUGHTER)

AND MY GUEST DANIEL BERGNER

SAYS WOMEN'S SEXUAL DESIRE

MATCHES MEN'S.

SO NOW MEN WILL BE THINKING

ABOUT WOMEN THINKING ABOUT

SEX EVERY SEVEN SECONDS,

EVERY SEVEN SECONDS.

MAYOR MIKE BLOOMBERG

UNVEILED A $20 BILLION PLAN

TO FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE IT

WILL LIMIT THE OCEANS TO NO

MORE THAN 16 OUNCES.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

WELCOME TO THE REPORT,

EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> STEPHEN

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STEPHEN, STEPHEN, STEPHEN!

STEPHEN, STEPHEN, STEPHEN!

>> FOLKS, THANK YOU SO MUCH,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

YOU KNOW I NEED IT.

YOU KNOW I NEED IT.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

THANKS, PLEASE, FOLKS.

PLEASE, FOLKS, YOU KNOW,

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

CHANTING MY NAME.

JESUS HIMSELF SAID MAN

CANNOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE

BUT BY EVERY WORD, JUST

CHANTED BY YOUR AUDIENCE.

FOLKS, LET'S GET STRAIGHT TO

THE STORY EVERYONE'S TALKING

ABOUT.

THE NSA KNOWS WHAT

EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT.

(LAUGHTER)

AND ACCORDING TO STUNNING

NEW ARTICLES FIRST PUBLISHED

BY FRIEND OF THE SHOW AND

PROFESSIONAL BLABBERMOUTH

GLEN GREENWALD IN THE U.K.'S

THE GUARDIAN THE NEWSPAPER,

THE NSA IS ALSO ENGAGING IN

CYBERSNOOPING.

>> NSA THE NATIONAL SECURITY

AGENCY HAS ASSETS TO THE

CENTRAL SERVERS TO SOME OF

THE TOP U.S. TECHNOLOGY

FIRMS THROUGH A PROGRAM

CALLED PRISM, THOSE FIRMS

BEING MICROSOFT, GOOGLE,

YAHOO!, FACEBOOK, APPLE, AOL,

SKYPE, YOUTUBE AND PAL TALK.

>> Stephen: YOU HEARD RIGHT.

THEY'RE MONITORING PAL TALK.

WELL, FOLKS, FOLKS, YOU KNOW

WHAT THAT MEANS.

WE ARE THIS CLOSE TO

LEARNING WHAT PAL TALK IS.

(LAUGHTER)

NOW THIS BETRAYAL OF OUR

NATIONAL SECURITY COMES

COURT SEE OF FORMER CIA

TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND

NERD TRYING TO LOOK LIKE A

COOL GUY TRYING TO LOOK LIKE

A NERD EDWARD SNOWDEN.

SNOWDEN LEAKED A TOP SECRET

POWER POINT PRESENTATION

THAT DETAILED HOW THE

GOVERNMENT GATHERS MASSIVE

AMOUNTS OF INFORMATION ON

EVERYTHING BUT GRAPHIC

DESIGN.

(LAUGHTER)

NOW FOLKS, THIS SECRET

PROGRAM'S NAME PRISM IS AN

ACRONYM FOR PLANNING TOOL

FOR RESOURCE INTEGRATION

SYNCHRONIZATION AND

MANAGEMENT.

INCIDENTALLY, FOR REVEALING

PRISM, SNOWDEN MAY SOON BE

IN PRISON, FOR, PROBABLY,

REGRETTING, IDENTIFYING,

SELF, ON, NATIONAL, TV.

NOW DESPITE BEING IMPLICATED

IN THE POWER POINT GOOGLE

DENIES THEIR INVOLVEMENT

SAYING IN A STATEMENT THAT

GOOGLE DOES NOT HAVE A BACK

DOOR FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO

ACCESS PRIVATE USER DATA.

MAYBE SO.

BUT WHEN I GOOGLED THE WORDS

BACK DOOR AND PRIVATE ACCESS,

I SURE FOUND EVIDENCE OF

DISTURBING PROBING.

AND THERE IS ONLY ONE THING,

FOLKS, THAT I DO NOT LIKE

ABOUT THIS WHOLE NSA

SURVEILLANCE.

IT'S HAPPENING ON PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S WATCH.

AND IT'S EARNING HIM HIGH

PRAISE FROM CONSERVATIVES.

>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IS AS

IF GEORGE BUSH IS BACK IN

OFFICE.

>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

STEPS HE HAS TAKEN TO FIGHT

TERROR TO KEEP HIM SAFE IT

IS MUCH ABOUT WHAT GEORGE

BUSH STARTED AND CONTINUED.

WIRETAPS, INDEFINITE

DETENTION, KEEPING

GUANTANAMO OPEN, IT'S DRONE

STRIKES.

I REFER TO IT AS PRESIDENT

BUSH'S FOURTH TERM.

>> Stephen: SHUT UP, BALDY!

GEORGE W. BUSH IS MY HERO.

HE IS MY ROLE MODEL.

HE IS MY DESIGNATED DRIVER.

THIS GUY, THIS GUY IS JUST

IMITATING, IT WILL MAKE ME

LIKE HIM.

I DON'T CARE HOW MANY BALL

GAME US TAKE PLE TO OR HOW

MANY CITIZENS YOU BLOW UP,

YOU'RE NOT MY REAL

PRESIDENT.

YOU'RE JUST SOME GUY NAMED

BARRY!

(LAUGHTER)

I HATE YOU!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

AND FOLKS, WHILE THERE'S A

LOT OF TALK ABOUT E-MAILS

AND PHONE CALLS, I AM WAY

MORE EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW

SURVEILLANCE DEVICES THAT

THEY ARE COOKING UP.

>> IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO

KNOW WHEN I'M USING MY

MICROWAVE OVEN.

>> GENERAL PETRAEUS WHEN HE

RAN THE CIA GAVE A SPEECH

THAT HE THOUGHT WAS SECRET

AND SOMEBODY COPIED IT AND

MADE IT PUBLIC THAT SAID NEW

MIKE WAVES AND DISHWASHERS

THAT HAVE COMPUTER CHIPS IN

THERE THAT THEY CAN ACCESS

SO THEY KNOW WHEN YOUS ARE

USING YOUR MICROWAVE AND

DISHWASHER.

>> Stephen: I'M NOT

SURPRISED THEY PUT

SURVEILLANCE CHIPS IN

MICROWAVES.

WE KNOW THEY ALREADY HAVE

METAL DETECTORS.

AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT

PEOPLE ARE NUKING.

I MEAN ISN'T A MICROWAVE

BORE ITO?

-- BURRITO, A, THEY ARE

FOREIGN AND I KNOW FOR A

FACT THEY HAVE EXPLOSIVE

POTENTIAL.

BUT LOOK, FOLKS, LOOK--

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

FOLKS, I CAN ADMIT THAT THIS

GUARDIAN STORY DOES RAISE A

LOT OF IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.

LIBERALS ASK IF WE ARE

SACRIFICING TOO MUCH FREEDOM

FOR SECURITY.

CONSERVATIVES ASK IF WE ARE

SHOWING OUR HAND TO THE

TERRORISTS BUT THE GUARDIAN

ASKS THE MOST IMPORTANT

QUESTION OF ALL, COULD THE

GUARDIAN WIN A PULITZER FOR

EDWARD SNOWDEN'S NSA

REVELATIONS?

WHICH LEADS ME TO ASK, COULD

I WIN AN EMMY FOR MY REPORT

ON THE GUARDIAN WONDERING IF

THEY COULD WIN A PULITZER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

AND --

>> STEPHEN, STEPHEN,

STEPHEN!

STEPHEN, STEPHEN, STEPHEN!

STEPHEN, STEPHEN, STEPHEN!

>> I HOPE YOU'RE VOTERS.

AND WILL MY MORNING RERUN BE

ELIGIBLE FOR A KID'S CHOICE

AWARD.

SHOULD WE EVEN BE DISCUSSING

THIS?

WELL, THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO

THINK SO.

>> NOW I WELCOME THIS

DEBATE.

AND I THINK IT'S HEALTHY FOR

OUR DEMOCRACY.

>> Stephen: YES, I WELCOME

IT TOO, VERY HEALTHY.

IT'S A DEBATE WELL WORTH

HAVING.

THE MOMENT WE FOUND OUT

ABOUT IT IN 2006.

SO ALSO LET'S HAVE A DEBATE

ABOUT WHY THE GILMORE GIRLS

WERE CANCELLED.

BECAUSE FOLKS, THE FACT IS

WE HAD THIS DEBATE.

AND WE SURRENDERED OUR

RIGHTS BACK WHEN WE WERE

PROPERLY IN THE GRIP OF

FEAR.

AND I KNOW IT WON'T BE EASY.

WE'VE GOT TO DIG DOWN DEEP

AND SOMEHOW FIND THE COURAGE

TO STAY SCARED [BLEEP].

(LAUGHTER)

BECAUSE IF IT REALLY BOTHERS

YOU, FOLKS, THERE ARE PLENTY

OF WAYS TO AVOID THIS

GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE.

JUST DON'T TEXT, TWEET, MAKE

PHONE CALLS, OR USE PAL TALK

EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THAT'S A

SACRIFICE.

INSTEAD, INSTEAD IF YOU

ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NEED

TO GET A MESSAGE TO A FRIEND,

JUST DO WHAT OUR GRANDPARENTS

DID, AND USE A CARRIER

CHICKEN.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SIMPLE PROCESS, OKAY.

SIMPLE PROCESS, ALL RIGHT.

JUST SEND A MESSAGE TO MY

BUDDY HERE, MY BUDDY LOU

DAWG.

WHAT'S UP, WHAT UP, LOU

DAWG!

THINGS ARE CHILL HERE.

CAN I POP BY LATER FOR SOME

FRIED CARRIER CHICKEN?

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ROLL

THAT UP THERE.

RIGHT THERE.

THERE YOU GO.

AND UH-HUH THERE YOU GO.

AND GO FIND LOU DAWG.

(LAUGHTER)

(APPLAUSE)

YOU SEE THERE ARE ALWAYS

WAYS TO OPT OUT OF BIG

BROTHER.

HERE TO TELL ME THAT THERE

IS NO WAY TO OPT OUT OF BIG

BROTHER IS THE PRESIDENT &

CEO OF THE NATIONAL

CONSTITUTION CENTER LEGAL

AFFAIRS EDITOR OF THE NEW

REPUBLIC AND LAW PROFESSOR

AT GEORGE WASHINGTON

UNIVERSITY, JEFFREY ROSEN,

JEFFREY, THANK YOU SO MUCH

FOR JOINING ME.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU GOT THIS NEW ARTICLE IN

THE NEW REPUBLIC, AVAILABLE

ON-LINE ASKING PRESIDENT

OBAMA TO REVEAL THE LETTER

THAT SAYS WHY HE HAS THE

RIGHT TO DO THIS GATHERING

TO THE NSA.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE WITH

THIS-- WHAT'S YOUR BEEF HERE,

SIR.

WHAT ARE YOU HIDING THAT YOU

DON'T WANT OBAMA TO FIND OUT

ABOUT?

WELL, PRESIDENT OBAMA CALLED

FOR A NATIONAL DEBATE ABOUT

THE FOURTH AMENDMENT.

AND I WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN

THAT DEBATE BY SAYING AS

JUSTIN-- JUSTICE ANTONIN

SCALIA DID JUST THIS MONDAY,

A HERO OF YOURS, A

CONSERVATIVE.

NOW HE'S MY HERO TOO BECAUSE

HE SAID THE FRAMERS OF THE

FOURTH AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE

BEEN APPALLED BY THE IDEA

THAT THE GOVERNMENT COULD

SEIZE INFORMATION WITHOUT

PARTICULARLY SPECIFYING THE

PLACE TO BE SEARCHED OR THE

PERSON OR THINGS.

>> Stephen: BUT THERE IS NO

EXPECTATION THAT YOUR PHONE

RECORDS ARE YOUR RECORDS.

IT WAS SETTLED IN 1979 IN A

SUPREME COURT CASE THAT THE

PHONE COMPANY OWNS THOSE

RECORDS.

THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT

SUBPOENAING YOUR RECORDS.

THEY'RE THE PHONE COMPANY'S

RECORDS.

THAT ALLOWS THE PHONE

COMPANY TO SHARE THEM WITH

PRIVATE INDUSTRY BUT WE WERE

NOT AWARE THAT VERIZON, FOR

EXAMPLE S SHARING THE MEHTADATA,

THE TELEPHONE NUMBERS AND

DURATION OF MY CALLS WITH

THE GOVERNMENT ON AN ONGOING

DAILY BASIS.

>> Stephen: WHAT'S THE

PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH GETTING

TOGETHER, AS THEY SAY, THE

HEY STAKE, OKAY, THE

HAYSTACK OF INFORMATION SO

THEY CAN THEN FIND THE

NEEDLE IN IT.

ARE YOU ANTI-HAYSTACK OR PRO

NEED SNELL.

>> I AM PRO FOURTH AMENDMENT

AND THE FOURTH AMENDMENT

SAYS YOU CANNOT HAVE GENERAL

SEARCHES OF INFORMATION ON

AN ONGOING DAILY BASIS

WITHOUT PARTICULAR

INFORMATION THAT IS CLINGING

TO A PARTICULAR CLIMATE.

>> WE ARE BEING GENERALLY

ATTACKED.

WE ARE GENERALLY UNDER

THREAT.

YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, THERE

WAS THE ATTACK ON 9/11 THERE

IS THE ATTACK AT FT. HOOD,

THE ATTACK IN BOSTON.

THOSE ARE SPREAD OUT ALL

ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

YOU CAN'T JUST SAY E IT'S

ONLY GOING TO BE IN DADE

COUNTY.

>> WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF

THIS GENERAL DATA MINING

WORKS.

THE SENATORS WHO WERE BRAEFED

ON THE PROGRAM, SENATORS

WIDEN AND UDAL SAID AMERICAN

WAS BE APPALLED IF THEY KNEW

THE PATRIOT ACT WAS BEING

USED IN THIS WAY AND WERE

NOT CONVINCED IT WAS

STOPPING SERIOUS THREATS.

>> DO YOU THINK WE ARE

VENNERING FREEDOMS HERE IN

THE FACE OF TERRORIST

THREAT.

>> I THINK NOT ONLY ARE WE

DOING THAT BUT DOING SO

UNNECESSARILY BECAUSE YOU

COULD DESIGN THESE PROGRAMS

IN A WAY THAT PROTECTED PRIV

SEE AND SECURITY AT THE SAME

TIME.

>> Stephen: IT MIGHT BE A

CUNNING PLAN.

BECAUSE HERE AWAY WHY.

THEY HATE US FOR OUR

FREEDOM.

SO LESS FREEDOM WE HAVE, THE

LESS LIKELY THEY ARE TO

ATTACK US.

(APPLAUSE)

ALL RIGHT FROM THE NATIONAL

CONSTITUTION CENTER AND THE

NEW REPUBLIC JEFFREY ROSEN.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY, THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

FOLKS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

AS WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED

THOROUGHLY TONIGHT THE BIG

STORY IS OUR NEW NATIONAL

SECURITY STATE.

AND I AM ON RECORD AS BEING

FINE WITH GOVERNMENT

SURVEILLANCE.

IN FACT, I WANT TO GO ON

RECORD RIGHT NOW.

I'M FINE WITH IT.

(LAUGHTER)

NOTHING, FOLKS S OUT OF

BOUNDS WHEN IT COMES TO

KEEPING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

SAFE.

THAT'S WHY I WANT TO COMMEND

THE TSA FOR RECENTLY DOING

WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO FOIL

A HIGH PROFILE FUGITIVE WHO

ASSOCIATES WITH KNOWN

SMUGGLERS.

I AM TALKING, OF COURSE,

ABOUT CHEWBACCA.

JIM.

>> CHEWBACCA IN THE STAR

WARS MOVIES WAS BRIEFLY

STOPPED BY THE TSA AT THE

DENVER AIRPORT BECAUSE OF

HIS CANE WHICH KIND OF LACKS

LIKE A LIGHT SABRE.

THE TSA SAYS THE UNUSUAL

WEIGHT OF THE CANE GOT THE

OFFICER'S ATTENTION.

>> Stephen: YES, PETER

MAYHEW WAS DETAINED.

NOW YOU MAY SAY THIS WAS AN

UNNECESSARY OVERREACH BUT I

FOR ONE AM RELIEVED THE TSA

HAS FINALLY JOINED THE

EMPIRE IN THEIR FIGHT

AGAINST THE REBEL ALLIANCE.

WHO WE ALL KNOW-- WHO WE ALL

KNOW WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO

OVERTHROW A DUALLY ELECTED

EMPEROR PALPATINE.

NO, JIMMY, NOT MITCH

McCONNELL.

PUT UP PALPATINE, OH, MY

MISTAKE, OKAY.

NOW SOME ALDERAAN HUGGERS

OUT THERE MIGHT SAY THAT

THIS GUY, PETER MAY

SHOE-- MAYHEW IS MERELY AN

ACTOR WHO PLAYED CHEWBACCA

IN THE STAR WAS-- STAR WARS

MOVIE BUT THINK ABOUT, IT,

WOULDN'T THAT BE THE BEST

UNDERCOVER DISDUCE FOR

CHEWBACCA.

DON'T BELIEVE ME?

JUST LOOK AT MAYHEW'S

LUGGAGE.

AND FOLKS T SHOULDN'T BE

JUST TSA, ALL GOVERNMENT

AGENCIES SHOULD BE ON THE

LOOKOUT FOR THESE REBEL-- I

SAY I SHOULD INVESTIGATE

C-3PO.

THE GUY SOUNDS FOREIGN TO

ME.

I MEAN SERGIO, JULIO,

THREEPIO.

COULD BE A SPACE MEXICAN.

AND HEALTH AND HUMAN

SERVICES SHOULD AT LEAST BE

INVESTIGATING YODA FOR

FRAUD.

I MEAN 900 YEARS OLD?

MILKING SOCIAL SECURITY, HE

HE-- DRY, HE IS.

(APPLAUSE)

RIGHT BACK, WE'LL BE.

>> HEY, WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A "NEW

YORK TIMES" MAGAZINE WRITER

WITH A NEW BOOK CALL WAD DO

WOMEN WANT?

IS THAT MEL GIBSON MOVIE WAS

RIGHT IT'S DRUNKEN

ANTI-SEMITES.

PLEASE WELCOME DANIEL

BERGNER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

WHAT'S UP, MR. BERGNER, GOOD

TO SEE YOU.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP FOR

ME.

YOU ARE AUTHOR AND

CONTRIBUTING WRITER FOR "THE

NEW YORK TIMES" MAGAZINE AND

YOU GOT A NEW BOOK HERE

CALLED, WHAT DO WOMEN WANT,

ADVENTURES IN THE SCIENCE OF

FEMALE DESIRE.

FIRST OF ALL, OKAY, FIRST OF

ALL, WHAT DOES SCIENCE OR

SCIENTISTS KNOW ABOUT FEMALE

DESIRE, ALL RIGHT?

IT'S ALL MYSTERIOUS.

IT'S ALL INTUITION.

IT'S ALL SHROUDED IN MYSTERY

AND FLOWERS AND PERFUME,

RIGHT?

IT'S UNDELL OFABLE.

>> SCIENCE IS TRYING NOW TO

PULL BACK THAT SOCIETAL VEIL,

PULL BACK ALL THAT UNDELL OF

ABILITY AND GET AT SOME

TRUTH.

AND SO HERE'S ONE.

WHEN IT COMES TO SEX,

MONOGAMY MAY BE MUCH MORE OF

A PROBLEM FOR WOMEN THAN FOR

MEN.

>> Stephen: WHAT YOU TALKING

ABOUT?

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>> WE'VE LONG BEEN TAUGHT AS

YOU KNOW MEN PROGRAMMED BY

EVOLUTION TO BE PROMISCUOUS.

>> Stephen: YES, EXACTLY,

SPREADING THEIR SEED AS

WIDELY AS POSSIBLE.

>> AN WOMEN TO BE MORE

GEARED TOWARD ONE GOOD MAN.

>> Stephen: WOMEN ARE BETTER

THAN MEN ARE.

SEE?

SEE.

I JUST GOT A VALIDATION.

>> WHAT ABOUT THAT THEORY

WHERE WOMEN ARE BETTER

SUITED TO MONOGAMY IS TOO

CONVENIENT AND COMFORTING

FOR MEN.

I THINK SCIENCE-- .

>> Stephen: WHAT?

>> BECAUSE WE GET TO SIT

BACK, WE GET TO LET OUR EYES

AND THOUGHTS ROAM A BIT AND

BE COMFORTABLE THAT OUR

WOMEN ARE REALLY OKAY ABOUT

THIS MONOGAMOUS SITUATION.

SCIENCE IS TELLING US

SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT.

>> Stephen: BUDDY, BUDDY,

WOULD YOU LOOK ANYWHERE ELSE?

>> THAT'S SCIENCE.

>> THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS AND

NO DOUBT IF I HAVE THE

COLBERT-- BUT HERE'S WHAT

THE REST OF US ARE DEALING

WITH.

SO MEREDITH SHIVERS,

FASCINATING SCIENTISTS

COMPARE WAG WOMEN SAY TURNS

THEM ON VERSUS-- VERSUS WHAT

THEIR BODIES WITH A LITTLE

DEVICE-- ABISMOGRAPH.

>> Stephen: WHAT DOES IT DO.

>> IT IS A LIGHT SENSE THEIR

GOES INTO THE NETHER REGIONS,

WE SAY.

>> Stephen: WHERE THE LIGHT

OF SCIENCE DON'T SHINE.

>> IT MEASURES, HERE IS WHAT

SHE FOUND.

ONE AMONG MEN EXAMPLES.

SO VERY HANDSOME STRANGER

VERSUS VERY HANDSOME AND OF

COURSE TRUSTED CLOSE FRIEND.

WOMEN SAY TRUSTED CLOSE

FRIEND TURNS THEM ON MORE.

WOMEN'S BODIES SAY SOMETHING

VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.

EXCEPT, OF COURSE WHEN

STEPHEN COLBERT IS THE

TRUSTED FRIEND.

>> Stephen: YES.

>> HERE IS ANOTHER FUNNY

EXAMPLE.

>> Stephen: SO FAR THIS

ISN'T FUNNY TO ME.

IT'S VERY UPSETTING.

>> IT'S WORRISOME.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU JUST

LYING TO UP SET ME?

OR MAYBE YOU JUST WROTE THIS

BOOK TO GET OVER A BAD

BREAKUP.

>> I HAVE BEEN-- .

>> Stephen: WHAT IS THIS

BASED ON, REAL SCIENCE.

>> INCREASING WORRY BUT

THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL ISSUE

AS A MAN BUT LET ME JUST GET

BACK TO ONE-- SO MOSTLY

WOMEN IN THIS BOOK BUT ONE

DETOUR TOWARD MONKEYS, ARE

CLOSE ANCESTORS LONG THOUGHT

BY SCIENTISTS THAT MALE

MONKEYS, THE AGGRESSORS AND

ALWAYS PARTICULARLY

SEXUALLY, YOU TAKE AGAIN THE

BLINDERS OFF, THE

ASSUMPTIONS PUSHED ASIDE,

WHICH SCIENCE IS SHOWING US

IS NO, ACTUALLY IT'S THE

FEMALE MONKEYS WHO ARE THE

INITIATORS.

THE FEMALE MONKEYS WHO ARE

DOING THE OBJECTIFYING OF

THEIR OBJECTS OF DESIRE.

>> Stephen: WAIT A SECOND,

THEY TAUGHT MONKEYS ABOUT

MONEY, BASICALLY.

THEY GAVE THEM LIKE PILLS

THAT WERE WORTH FOOD AND

BONOBO TURNED IT IMMEDIATELY

INTO A PROSTITUTION ECONOMY

BUT IT WAS-- THEY DID.

BUT IT WAS THE MALE MONKEYS

GIVING IT TO THE FEMALE

MONKEYS T WASN'T THE FEMALE

MONKEYS GOING I WILL GIVE

AWAY MY FOOD FOR SEX.

THE MALE MONKEYS WERE GIVING

AWAY THE FOOD FOR SEX.

>> AND AGAIN, SO COMFORTING

TO THINK THAT BUT I-- .

>> Stephen: I DON'T BUY THAT

COMFORTING.

>> ONE FEMALE CHARACTER IN

MY BOOK, THE FEMALE MONKEY

ACTUALLY THIS IS HER MAIN

GESTURE IN LIFE.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT

MEANS SERVE ME NOW.

SO THE MALE MONKEY.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

>> YEAH, AND THE

PRIMATOLOGIST I SPENT TIME

WITH, EVERY THREE YEARS HE

HAS TO SWITCH OUT THE MALE

MONKEYS.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE THEY ARE

EXHAUSTED.

>> THE FEMALE MONKEYS ARE

TOO BORED TO HAVE SEX WITH

THEM ANY MORE, THEY NEED A

NEW BATCH.

>> Stephen: OH, OH.

>> YEAH, EXACTLY.

OVER AND OVER WHAT WE ARE

SEEING DESPITE WHAT SORT OF

EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY HAS

TAUGHT US ABOUT THOSE MEN

BEING PROMISCUOUS, WOMEN NOT,

IS WOMEN ARE EQUALLY

INTERESTED.

YOU STIP A-- STRIP AWAY THE

DANGER AND STIGMA IN CASUAL

SEX, AND OVER AND OVER YOU

SEE THESE EXAMPLES OF KIND

OF RAW OR RAWER PORTRAIT OF

FEMALE SEXUALITY THEN WE

HAVE BEEN WILLING TO SEE

BEFORE.

I THINK WE HAVE A BIT OF A

FEAR.

>> Stephen: AND HOW LONG

WILL IT TAKE ME TO FORGET

WHAT YOU TOLD ME TONIGHT.

>> THAT DEPENDS ON YOUR

POWERS OF FORGETTING.

>> Stephen: YOUR NAME IS

AGAIN?

DANIEL BERGNER,

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

WITH DISTURBING REVELATIONS

OF WHAT DO WOMEN WANT.

WE KNOW, WE'LL BE RIGHT

BACK.

>> Stephen: S THAT TEA FOR

THE REPORT, EVERYBODY.

GOOD NIGHT.