August 4, 2014 - Pat Buchanan & John W. Dean

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Stephen commemorates the 40th anniversary of President Nixon's resignation, Pat Buchanan discusses "The Greatest Comeback," and John W. Dean talks "The Nixon Defense." 

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> STEPHEN: OOH!

(AUDIENCE CHANTING "STEPHEN")>> STEPHEN: WELCOME!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)WELCOME TO "THE REPORT,"

EVERYBODY!

WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT, IHAVE BIG NEWS FOR YOU NOW.

YOU HAVE JOINED US ON ANHISTORIC NIGHT.

THIS WEEK MARKS THE40TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE

RESIGNATION OF RICHARD MILHOUSJOWLSWORTH NIXON.

(LAUGHTER)WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A BALLOON

DROP IN HIS HONOR, BUT, INSTEAD,WE JUST DECIDED TO SECRETLY DROP

THEM OVER CAMBODIA.

(LAUGHTER)THIS IS A SOLEMN DAY FOR ME

BECAUSE NIXON IS MY ALL-TIMEFAVORITE NON-REAGAN PRESIDENT,

NON-CHENEY VICE PRESIDENT, ANDNON-OATS QUAKER.

(LAUGHTER)TO THIS DAY, NIXON'S 1972

CAMPAIGN POSTER HANGS IN MYOFFICE.

IT REMINDS ME OF A SIMPLER TIMEIN AMERICA, WHEN MY PARENTS

SEEMED VERY TALL AND YOU'D GET AGOLD STAR JUST FOR USING THE

TOILET.

(LAUGHTER)FOLKS, BEFORE WE DELVE INTO THE

SO-CALLED SCANDAL THAT COST USTHIS GREAT LEADER, LET'S GET TO

KNOW THE MAN.

RICHARD NIXON WAS BORN IN 1913IN YORBA LINDA, CALIFORNIA.

EVEN AT AN EARLY AGE, HE REFUSEDTO WEAR MAKEUP, WHICH IS WHY

EVEN HIS MOTHER PREFERREDKENNEDY'S BABY PICTURES.

(LAUGHTER)AFTER SERVING IN THE NAVY, NIXON

WAS ELECTED TO CONGRESS AND ROSETO POLITICAL PROMINENCE AS A

MEMBER OF THE HOUSE IN THE HOUSEUN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES

COMMITTEE, WHERE HE ACCUSEDSTATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL ALGER

HISS OF BEING A SOVIET SPY.

IT WAS A DARK TIME IN OURNATION'S HISTORY, WHEN IT WAS

CONSIDERED WRONG FOR GOVERNMENTWORKERS TO SPY ON AMERICANS.

(LAUGHTER) IN 1952, WHILECAMPAIGNING AS DWIGHT

EISENHOWER'S RUNNINGMATE, NIXON WAS GULFED INSCANDAL

WHEN THE MEDIA REPORTED HERECEIVED IMPROPER GIFTS FROM

WEALTHY DONORS.

SO NIXON TOOK TO THE AIR WAVESAND SAVED HIS REPUTATION WITH

WHAT BECAME KNOWN AS THECHECKERS SPEECH ."

>> WE DID GET SOMETHING, A GIFTAFTER THE ELECTION.

YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS?

IT WAS A LITTLE COCKER SPANIELDOG, AND OUR LITTLE GIRL,

TRICIA, THE 6-YEAR-OLD, NAMED ITCHECKERS.

AND YOU KNOW, THE KIDS, LIKE ALLKIDS, LOVE THE DOG, AND I JUST

WANT TO SAY THIS RIGHT NOW THATREGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY SAY

ABOUT IT, WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT.

(LAUGHTER)>> STEPHEN: THIS SPEECH WAS

THE MOST SKILLFUL POLITICALDEFLECTION SINCE STALIN'S

INFAMOUS "YES, I HAVE WORKCAMPS, BUT THEY'RE FILLED WITH

KITTENS."

(LAUGHTER)A TENDER MESSAGE.

NIXON LOST THE 1960 ELECTIONTO JOHN F. KENNEDY.

IN PART DUE TO A POORPERFORMANCE IN THE FIRST

TELEVISED PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE.

KENNEDY CHOSE TO WEAR MAKEUP,WHILE NIXON CHOSE TO BE IN BLACK

AND WHITE.

(LAUGHTER)A ROOKIE MISTAKE.

BUT EIGHT YEARS LATER, NIXONPULLED OFF THE GREATEST

POLITICAL COMEBACK IN HISTORY,WHEN HE SWEPT INTO THE OVAL

OFFICE.

AS PRESIDENT, HIS ACHIEVEMENTSWERE MANY.

HE FOUNDED THE E.P.A., ENDEDSCHOOL SEGREGATION, LOWERED THE

VOTING AGE TO 18 AND ENDORSEDTHE EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT.

BUT HIS GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT WASRESTORING DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS

WITH CHINA.

FOR WHICH WE OWE NIXON A LASTINGDEBT -- AND CHINA $1.3 TRILLION.

(LAUGHTER)BUT THIS GOOD MAN WAS FORCED

--(APPLAUSE)

YES.

YES. MAO MONEY, MAO PROBLEMS

BUT THIS GOOD MAN WAS FORCEDFROM OFFICE BY HIS BLOODTHIRSTY

ENEMIES WHO, ACCORDING TO APARTIAL LIST PREPARED BY NIXON,

WERE EVERYONE.(LAUGHTER)

THE SCANDAL WAS CALLEDWATERGATE,

A SCANDAL SO EXPLOSIVE SOME CALLIT "WATERGATE-GATE."

(LAUGHTER)NOT MANY.

JUST ME, SO FAR.

BUT AFTER TONIGHT'S SHOW...

(LAUGHTER)JOIN ME NOW FOR TONIGHT'S

RETROSPECTACULAR --A, THE COLBERT SPECIAL REPORT --

SCANDAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE, ANATION BETRAYED.

A FOND LOOK BACK, '74 --(APPLAUSE)

A FOND LOOK BACK, '74 --(APPLAUSE)

(CHANTING)(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> STEPHEN: ON JUNE 17, 1972,FIVE MEN WERE ARRESTED FOR

BREAKING INTO THE DEMOCRATICNATIONAL COMMITTEE'S

HEADQUARTERS AT THE WATERGATEHOTEL.

EVEN WORSE, THEY ATE A TOBELERONFROM THE MINIBAR, STICKING THE

DEMOCRATS WITH A $22 SERVICECHARGE.

(LAUGHTER)AN F.B.I. INVESTIGATION

CONNECTED THE WATERGATE BREAK-INTO AN ELITE WHITE HOUSE DIRTY

TRICKS GROUP KNOWN AS "THEPLUMBERS " BECAUSE THEY WERE

TASKED WITH PLUGGING LEAKS.

AND BECAUSE OF THEIR AMPLE ASSCRACKS.

(LAUGHTER)THE PLUMBERS WERE PART OF

NIXON'S POLITICAL OPERATION, THE"COMMITTEE TO RE-ELECT THE

PRESIDENT," OR "CREEP."

A NAME THAT SOMEHOW ESCAPED THESCRUTINY OF "NIXON'S

UNDERCOMMITTEE FOR TERMINATINGSELF-INDICTING ACRONYM CHOICES,"

OR "NUTSAC."

(LAUGHTER)SOON, "WASHINGTON POST"

REPORTERS BOB WOODWARD AND CARLBERNSTEIN, SEEN HERE AS

ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE, BEGANRECEIVING AND PUBLISHING LEAKS

ABOUT THE PLOT FROM AN ANONYMOUSF.B.I. SOURCE KNOWN ONLY AS

"DEEP THROAT".

LATER PORTRAYED BY LINDALOVELACE IN THE DOCUMENTARY.

ON MAY 17, 1973, THE SENATELAUNCHED THE WATERGATE HEARINGS,

IN WHICH THE PRESIDENT'S FORMERAPPOINTMENTS SECRETARY ALEXANDER

BUTTERFIELD REVEALED THAT NIXONHAD RECORDED EVERY CONVERSATION

IN HIS OFFICE SINCE 1971,CREATING A VITAL HISTORICAL

RECORD.

JUST LISTEN TO THIS ACTUALCONVERSATION.

>> THE PROBLEM HOWEVER, WITHPANDAS IS

THAT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TOMATE.

THE ONLY WAY THEY LEARN HOW ISTO WATCH OTHER PANDAS MATE.

YOU SEE?

(LAUGHTER)>> STEPHEN: YES, FOR PANDAS TO

MATE, THEY HAVE TO WATCH OTHERPANDAS DOING IT.

ALTHOUGH, FOR MALE PANDAS, IT'SJUST AS EFFECTIVE TO WATCH TWO

FEMALE PANDAS MATING.

(LAUGHTER)(APPLAUSE)

(LAUGHTER)(APPLAUSE)

BUT THE MOST FAMOUS PASSAGE FROMTHE RECORDINGS WASN'T ON THEM.

IT WAS THE MISSING 18 1/2MINUTES.

NIXON'S SECRETARY ROSE MARYWOODS CLAIMED SHE ACCIDENTALLY

PRESSED "ERASE" WITH HER FOOT ONTHE TAPE RECORDER'S PEDAL WHILE

REACHING FOR THE PHONE, APOSITION NOW KNOWN IN YOGA AS

"DOWNWARD FACING ASS COVER ."

(LAUGHTER)SO WHAT WAS ON THOSE 18 1/2

MINUTES?

DID THOSE TWO PANDAS EVER DO IT?

WE MAY NEVER KNOW.

(LAUGHTER)SORRY, WE SEEM TO BE HAVING A

SLIGHT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

COULD SOMEONE ADJUST THEVERTICAL HOLD?

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

(APPLAUSE)NOW, ON AUGUST 8, 1974, DAYS

AFTER THE JUDICIARYCOMMITTEE HAD PASSED ARTICLES OF

IMPEACHMENT, RICHARD NIXONBECAME THE FIRST U.S. PRESIDENT

TO RESIGN SINCE WILLIAM HENRYHARRISON COWARDLY LEFT OFFICE

AFTER ONE MONTH TO SPEND MORETIME WITH HIS COFFIN.

(LAUGHTER)WHEN WE RETURN, WE WILL BE

JOINED BY FORMER NIXONSPEECHWRITER PATRICK J.

BUCHANAN.

PLEASE JOIN US AFTER THESEIMPORTANT MESSAGES FROM OUR

SPONSORS.

>> YOU SHOULD TRY SPACE FOODSTICKS

>> SPACE FOOD STICKS, THE ENERGYSNACK FROM U.S. AEROSPACE

RESEARCH AND PILLSBURY.

(LAUGHTER)>> STEPHEN: WELCOME BACK!

WELCOME BACK TO OUR NIXONRESIGNATION SPECIAL.

TO TRULY "KNOW" AN HISTORICALFIGURE LIKE NIXON, IT HELPS TO

ACTUALLY KNOW HIM.

MY NEXT GUEST DID.

PLEASE WELCOME FORMER NIXONSPEECHWRITER AND AUTHOR OF "THE

GREATEST COMEBACK: HOW RICHARDNIXON ROSE FROM DEFEAT TO CREATE

THE NEW MAJORITY," PAT BUCHANAN.

PAT, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN!

ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON "THEREPORT"!

>> THANK YOU!

(APPLAUSE)>> STEPHEN: PAT, YOU KNEW

RICHARD NIXON.

YOU WERE ONE OF HISSPEECHWRITERS.

PEOPLE SEE HIM AS A TRAGICFIGURE IN MANY WAYS.

>> RIGHT.

>> STEPHEN: WHO WAS THE NIXONYOU KNEW?

WAS HE A TRAGIC FIGURE?

>> YEAH, HE WAS, IN A WAY.

NIXON HAD SOME FLAWS, AND WHENTHE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES' FLAWS ARE MAGNIFIED ASIN MANY CASES, IT'S A TRAGEDY,

AND HE WAS INDECISIVE INWATERGATE, TOO LOYAL TO HIS

FRIENDS, AND HE DIDN'T ACT ANDIF HE DID, HE WOULD HAVE GONE

DOWN AS ONE OF THE GREATEST PRESIDENTS.

ARMS CONTROL, OPENED UP CHINA,SAVED ISRAEL IN THE WAR, BROUGHT

TROOPS HOME FROM VIETNAM,BROUGHT P.O.W.'S HOME, AN

EXTRAORDINARY SUCCESS BUTWATERGATE ERASED IT ALL.

>> 40 YEARS AGO TODAY THESMOKING GUN TAPE WAS RELEASED.

>> I WAS AT CAMP DAVID AND WEFOUND IT.

>> STEPHEN: TELL THE PEOPLEWHAT THE SMOKING GUN WAS.

>> THE SMOKING GUN TAPE WASFROM JUNE 3, 1972 WHERE

RICHARD NIXON WAS TALKINGBASICALLY ABOUT

CONTAINING THE INVESTIGATION OFWATERGATE.

IT WAS A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER ITAND NIXON HAD SEEN THE TAPES AND

SAID HE HAD NOT TALKED, HADBASICALLY NOT BEEN DISCUSSING

THE SO-CALLED COVERUP THEN.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS WHEN WE FOUNDIT AT CAMP DAVID WE RELEASED IT

THE NEXT DAY AND DROPPED THEBOTTOM OUT OF --

>> STEPHEN: THE TAPE SAID HEKNEW THERE WAS A COVERUP AND HE

WAS ENCOURAGING THE COVERUP?

>> THE TAPE SAID THERE WAS ACOVERUP AND HE KNEW ABOUT IT.

THE PROBLEM WAS HE HAD NOTSPOKEN THE TRUTH.

>> STEPHEN: SHOULD HEHAVE DESTROYED THE TAPES?

>> HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE MADE THETAPES.

>> STEPHEN: BUT THAT'SDIFFERENT.

THAT'S LIKE SAYING, OKAY, SHOULDYOU HAVE DESTROYED THE MURDER

WEAPON?

WELL, BETTER NOT TO MURDERSOMEONE.

(LAUGHTER)DID YOU ADVISE HIM TO DESTROY

THE TAPES?

>> YES, I DID.

>> STEPHEN: I AGREE WITH YOU.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO OBSTRUCTJUSTICE, GO ALL THE WAY

(LAUGHTER)(APPLAUSE)

>> NO, NO!

HERE'S WHERE YOU'RE DEAD WRONG.

HERE'S WHERE YOU'RE WRONG.

WHEN THE TAPES WERE REVEALED,NOT A SINGLE ONE HAD BEEN

SUBPOENAED.

THEY WERE NOT EVIDENCE OFANYTHING.

HE HAD TAKEN TAPES OFINDIVIDUALS WHO HAD NOT KNOWN

IT, THE TAPES OPERATEDAUTOMATICALLY AND WHAT HE SHOULD

HAVE DONE IS KEPT THE TAPES OFBREZHNEV AND THE FOREIGN POLICY

AND JOHN DEAN AND TAKE THE RESTAND GET RID OF THEM.

>> STEPHEN: BECAUSE THEY HADEVIDENCE OF HIS OBSTRUCTION OF

JUSTICE.

>> AFTER BURNING HIM HE COULDHAVE SAID GO AHEAD AND IMPEACH

AND BE DAMNED.

>> STEPHEN: WHY DIDN'T HESTICK OUT THE IMPEACHMENT.

HE'S MY PRESIDENT.

I WAS A KID WHEN HE RESIGNED ANDI ALWAYS FELT HE WAS MY

PRESIDENT.

>> HE DIDN'T STICK IT OUTBECAUSE THE HOUSE JUDICIARY

COMMITTEE VOTED TO IMPEACH.

IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES INTHE HOUSE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN

SENT TO THE SENATE AND THENWOULD HAVE BEEN CONVICTED AFTER

FIVE OR SIX MONTHS.

THOSE AT CAMP DAVID SAID WECANNOT PUT THE COUNTRY THROUGH

THIS WHEN WE KNOW THE END IS NOTIN DOUBT.

BARRY GOLDWATER AND OTHERS CAMEDOWN, BUT RICHARD ALREADY SAID

DON'T PUT THE COUNTRY THROUGHIT, END IT AND PUT GERALD FORD

IN OFFICE, WHICH WAS THE RIGHTTHING TO DO.

>> STEPHEN: THERE'S AN IMAGEOF NIXON AS A PARANOID, UNHAPPY

PERSON.

WHAT WAS HAPPY NIXON LIKE?

WHAT MADE HIM HAPPY?

>> I'LL TELL YOU A STORY.

I WAS 14 YEARS OLD WHEN I METHIM.

HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF THEUNITED STATES.

I WAS ON THE CADDY BENCH OF THEBURNING TREE COUNTRY CLUB, ALL

MEN'S CLUB, EISENHOWER GOLFTHERE.

HE CAME OUT THERE AND WAS WITHTHE GUYS OUT THERE ON THE GOLF

COURSE AND HE WAS IN HIS MADE40S.

HE WAS A GENUINELY HAPPY MAN.

HE LOVED THE BATTLE, THEPOLITICAL BATTLE.

WHEN I WENT TO WORK FOR HIM UPTHERE AT HIS LAW FIRM, HE CALLED

ME IN AND WE TALKED FOR HOURSEVERY DAY AND HE SAID IF I HAD

TO PRACTICE LAW FOR A LIVING, IWOULD BE MENTALLY DEAD IN TWO

YEARS AND PHYSICALLY IN FOUR.

WHAT HE LOVED WAS THE BATTLE,BRINGING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

BACK FROM THAT HORRENDOUS DEFEATIN '64, HIS OWN RUINED CAREER

AND MARCHING UP THE HILL TOWHERE HE WON THE PRESIDENCY WITH

THE GREATEST LANDSLIDE INAMERICAN POLITICAL HISTORY.

>> STEPHEN: WHAT I LOVE ABOUT"THE GREATEST COMEBACK" THIS IS

BETWEEN '62 AND '68 WHEN HE'S INTHE WILDERNESS FROM CALIFORNIA

AND BECOMES THE PRESIDENT OF THEUNITED STATES, NOT ONLY DID HE

REHABILITATE HIMSELF AFTERWATERGATE BUT HE REHABILITATED

HIMSELF BEFORE HE BECAMEPRESIDENT.

THIS MAN RESURRECTED HIS CAREERTWICE.

EVEN JESUS ONLY DID ITONCE.

>> THREE TIMES. YOU MENTIONEDTHE CHECKERS SPEECH

>> STEPHEN: SO HE'S THE FATHER,SON AND THE HOLY GHOST!

(APPLAUSE)PAT BUCHANAN, THANK YOU SO

MUCH. "THE GREATEST COMEBACK "

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK!

>> STEPHEN: WELCOME BACK TOOUR BREAKING COVERAGE OF

SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED 40 YEARSAGO.

(LAUGHTER)OF COURSE, AT THE CENTER OF THE

WATERGATE SCANDAL WAS FORMERWHITE HOUSE COUNCIL JOHN DEAN.

JOINING ME NOW IS A MAN WHO KNEWJOHN DEAN VERY WELL.

PLEASE WELCOME JOHN DEAN.

JOHN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FORJOINING US, GOOD TO HAVE YOU

HERE!

(APPLAUSE)YOU ARE THE AUTHOR OF A BOOK

CALLED THE NIXON DEFENSE WHAT HEKNEW AND WHEN HE KNEW IT.

ALRIGHT JOHN, YOU HEARD PAT OUTHERE BEFORE.

WAS WATERGATE THAT BIG OF ADEAL?

(LAUGHTER)PAT BELIEVES THE TAPES SHOULD

BEEN DESTROYED.

YOU'RE ON THOSE TAPES.

>> I AM.

>> STEPHEN: DO YOU BELIEVETHEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DESTROYED?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

IT CLEARLY WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE TO

DESTROY THE TAPES.

WHEN THE TAPES WERE REVEALED BYALEX BUTTERFIELD, IT WAS ON

FRIDAY 13TH, WHITE HOUSELEARNS IT OVER THE WEEKEND.

NIXON IS IN THE HOSPITAL WITHPNEUMONIA.

HE'S TOLD THE OPTIONS, ONE ISDESTROYED, THE OTHER IS KEEP

THEM.

HE HAS ONE LAWYER ARGUINGOBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE IF YOU

DESTROY THEM, THE OTHER SAYS,WELL, THEY HAVEN'T SUBPOENAED

YET, YOU MIGHT GET AWAY WITHDESTROYING THEM.

>> STEPHEN: YOU ACTUALLYSERVED FOUR MONTHS IN PRISON,

AND WHAT WAS THE CHARGE?

>> I PLEADED TO OBSTRUCTIONOF -- CONSPIRACY TO OBSTRUCT

JUSTICE.

>> STEPHEN: IN RETURN FORPLEADING YOUR GUILT, YOU

TESTIFIED AGAINST THE PRESIDENT.

WHEN DID YOU MAKE THE CALCULUSAND WHEN DID YOU MAKE THE

CALCULUS TO TURN ON THIS GOODMAN?

(LAUGHTER)>> I INFORMED MY COLLEAGUES

EARLY EXACTLY WHAT I WAS DOING.

FIRST, I WAS GOING TO HIRE ALAWYER.

WHEN I BREAK RANK, I MAKE IT NOSECRET.

I SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO LIE FORANYBODY, I'M GOING TO THE

PROSECUTORS.

THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA,GO TO THE GRAND JURY.

THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE I WOULDEITHER REMEMBER OR TESTIFY IN AN

INCRIMINATING FASHION ABOUTMYSELF, BUT THAT WAS THE ONLY

WAY I FELT TO REALLY RESOLVE THEMATTER WAS TO BE VERY TRUTHFUL

ABOUT IT, EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENEDAND LAY IT OUT.

>> STEPHEN: YOU FAMOUSLY SAIDTO THE PRESIDENT THAT THERE WAS

A CANCER ON THE PRESIDENCY.

WHAT DID YOU MEAN AT THE TIME?

>> WELL, WHAT I WAS TRYING TODO?

I WAS TRYING TO GET HISATTENTION.

>> STEPHEN: THAT WOULD DO IT.

IT IS.

>> STEPHEN: THAT IS A FATALDIAGNOSIS.

WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT?

>> I MEANT WATERGATE WASMETASTASIZING.

IT WAS CONSUMING HIS TIME ANDTHE PEOPLE WHO WERE PART OF THE

ADMINISTRATION.

>> STEPHEN: WHY DIDN'T NIXONJUST CUT THE CHAFF AWAY FROM

HIM, CUT EVERYBODY LOOSE?

YOU HAVE TO BE TOUGH TO BE INPOLITICS.

WHY DIDN'T HE SAY HALDERMAN,EHRLICHMAN, DEAN, WHY DIDN'T HE

JUST TURN YOU GUYS TO THE FEDSAND WALKED AWAY?

>> SHOULD HAVE.

DID HE EVER TRY TO TURN ONYOU?

>> NOT UNTIL I TRIED TO BREAKRANK.

HE'S VERY WORRIED ABOUT THEOTHERS AND ME.

I HAVE TOO MUCH KNOWLEDGE.

HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

HE WANTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TOEASE EVERYBODY OUT AND HOPEFULLY

THAT WILL BE ENOUGH FOR THEPUBLIC.

IT WAS JUST A START.

I ADVISED HIM WE SHOULD ALL GO.

>> YOU KNEW THE PRESIDENT ASWELL, YOU HEARD PAT OUT HERE --

>> I DIDN'T KNOW THE PRESIDENTAS WELL AS PAT.

YOU KNOW, PAT IS SOMEBODY, INALL THOSE TAPES -- I WAS JUST

TELLING PAT BEFORE WE CAME ON,IN ALL THOSE TAPES I LISTENED

TO, NIXON HAS SOMETHING NASTY TOSAY ON ALMOST EVERYBODY WHO

WORKED FOR HIM BUT NOT ABOUTPAT.

HE REALLY LIKED PAT.

>> STEPHEN: NIXON LIKED HIM.

THAT'S EXCELLENT FOR THETOMBSTONE.

(LAUGHTER)(APPLAUSE)

>> STEPHEN: ALL RIGHT, WHATDID THE PRESIDENT KNOW AND WHEN

DID HE KNOW IT AND DID -- AND DOYOU KNOW WHAT WAS ON THE 18 1/2

MINUTES OF THE MISSING TAPES?

>> I DO.

WHAT DID HE KNOW AND WHEN?

HE WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THECOVERUP FROM THE BEGINNING.

HE'S NOT AS ACTIVE UNTIL AFTERTHE MARCH 21 CONVERSATION.

>> STEPHEN: DID HE ORDER --HE DID NOT ORDER THE

BREAK-IN.

THERE'S NO EVIDENCE HE ORDEREDTHE BREAK-IN.

>> STEPHEN: DHID HE ORDER ANYBREAK-IN?

>> OH, YES, HE DID.

HE ORDERED A BREAK-IN AT THEBOOKINGS INSTITUTE DURING THE

PENTAGON PAPERS.

HE THOUGHT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVEA COPY OF THAT 1970 STUDY THAT

SHOWED THE ORIGINS OF THE WAR INVIETNAM SO HE GAVE INSTRUCTIONS

ON THREE DIFFERENT TAPEDCONVERSATIONS TO BREAK IN AND

GET THOSE OUT.

>> STEPHEN: SO HE COULDN'THAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE WATERGATE

BREAK-IN BECAUSE HE WAS TOO BUSYPLANNING OTHER BREAK-INS

(LAUGHTER)WHAT WAS ON THE 18 MISSING

MINUTES?

>> IT'S VERY CLEAR WHEN YOU PUTTHE SEQUENCE TOGETHER -- IN FACT

I PUT AN APPENDIX IN THE BOOKFOR THAT REASON SO PEOPLE COULD

FOLLOW IT AND WHAT IT WAS ISHE'S DISCUSSING THE COVERUP VERY

EARLY IN THE FIRST DAYS.

HE DISCUSSES IT THAT EVENING,THE NEXT DAY, TWO DAYS LATER IS

THE SMOKING GUN TAPE THAT REALLYCAUSES HIS PRESIDENCY TO END

BECAUSE HE HAS SET UP A DEFENSE,HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT WATERGATE

TILL I HAD TOLD HIM IN MARCH OF'73.

>> STEPHEN: THAT PROVES HEALREADY KNEW.

>> YES.

>> STEPHEN: WERE YOU THEREWHEN THIS HAPPENED?

>> NO, BUT I WAS AWARE OF ITTHAT MORNING.

IT WAS A MAJOR EVENT.

BUD CROW CALLED ME AND SAIDELVIS WANTS TO COME IN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

I SAID WHY?

HE SAID HE WANTS TO GET A BADGEFROM THE BUREAU OF NARCOTICS AND

DANGEROUS DRUGS SO HE CAN BE ADRUG ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

I SAID, THAT'S KIND OF UNUSUAL.

>> STEPHEN: HE CERTAINLY LOOKSLIKE AN EXPERT IN THIS PHOTO.

JOHN, THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOININGME.

>> THANK YOU.

(APPLAUSE)>> STEPHEN: JOHN DEAN, THE

NIXON DEFENSE.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> STEPHEN: THAT'S IT FOR THE

REPORT EVERYBODY. STAY TUNED FORMANNIX

GOOD NIGHT.

>> Stephen: YOU CALLEDWATERGATE A COUP D'E TAT BY

NIXON'S ENEMIES.

>> YES.

HOW WAS THIS NOT JUSTAN EXERCISE IN JUSTICE.

>> BILL CLINTON WAS IMPEACHEDAND SURVIVED THE SENATE BECAUSE

HE HAD MACHINERY IN CONGRESSTHAT SUPPORTED THE UNITED STATES

AND THE MEDIA WERE WITH HIM.

WHEN NIXON CAME TO WASHINGTON,BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS WERE

AGAINST HIM, THE MEDIA LOATHEDHIM FROM THE ALGER HISS CASE, HE

HAD A CORRUPT F.B.I. OFFICIALLEAKING THE MATERIAL.

SO ALL THIS MACHINERY, THAT WASPUT TO WORK AND THERE WAS NO

DOUBT NIXON DID WRONG, MADE AMISTAKE AND DID FOOLISH THINGS,

BUT THEY DIDN'T DESTROY HIM OUTOF LOVE OF, I THINK, THE

CONSTITUTION.

THEY SAW A CHANCE TO GET RID OFTHE GREATEST ENEMY THEY'D HAD

SINCE WORLD WAR II.

>> Stephen: DO YOU THINKVIETNAM HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH

IT, HIS ESCALATING THE WAR INVIETNAM WAS SO UNPOPULAR.

>> YOU CAN'T SAY NIXON ESCALATEDTHE WAR!

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>> Stephen: LET ME SAY THESECRET BOMBINGS OF CAMBODIA.

SENDING THE WAR TO A DIFFERENTCOUNTRY, ALL RIGHT?

>> LET'S TALK FACTS.

>> Stephen: DID HE BOMBCAMBODIA SECRETLY?

>> YES, HE -->> Stephen: I ACCEPT YOUR

APOLOGY.>> NO APOLOGY NEEDED

>> Stephen: MAYBE THECAMBODIANS NEED AN APOLOGY.

>> YOU'RE FILIBUSTERING.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU SAYINGRIGHT NOW, PAT BUCHANAN, YOU'RE

FOR ELIMINATING THE TALK SHOWHOST FILL BUSTER?

(LAUGHTER)IN WHICH CASE YOU BETTER GET OFF

THE McCLOUGHLIN GROUP BECAUSETHAT GUY WON'T SHUT UP.

>> WHEN NIXON TOOK OFFICE THEREWERE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF

AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN VIETNAM,PUT THERE BY JFK AND JOHNSON

BY THE END OF HIS FIRST TERM,EVERYONE WAS HOME.

TO DO IT HE HAD TO BOMB THECOMMUNIST SANCTUARIES IN

CAMBODIA AND HE DID THE RIGHTAND MORAL THING AND SAVED

AMERICAN LIVES BY SO DOING.

IT WAS NOT NIXON'S WAR, IT WASLIBERALISM'S WAR AND HE ENDED

IT AND THE ONLY REASON CAMBODIAFELL TO THE COMMUNISTS ISBECAUSE

RICHARD NIXON WAS BROKEN BY HISENEMIES AND COULDN'T STOP WHAT

WAS COMING.

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