Sheryl Sandberg

  • Aired:  04/09/14
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Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg shares insights from her book "Lean In" and makes the case for encouraging young girls to become leaders. (6:14)

>> WELCOME BACK, EVERYTHING,MY GUEST TONIGHT IS

FROM-- PLEASE WELCOME SHERYLSANDBERG.

HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FORCOMING ON.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> ALL RIGHT, ARE YOU THECOO OF FACEBOOK.

BEFORE THAT YOU WORKED FORGOOGLE, WERE CHIEF OF STAFF

AT THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT,AN ECONOMIST AT THE WORLD

BANK.

YOU ARE ALSO A BEST SELLINGAUTHOR AND FOUNDER OF

LEANIN.ORG AND YOU GOT A NEWBOOK CALLED LEANIN FOR

GRADUATES.

>> UH-HUH.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

FIRST OF ALL, TELL ME, IHEAR A LOT ABOUT THIS LEANIN

THING.

OKAY.

CAN ANYBODY LEAN-IN OR DOONLY WOMEN LEAN-IN?

>> ANYONE CAN LEAN-IN.

ANYONE.

AND WE LIKE IT WHEN MEN DOIT AS WELL.

>> HOW-- DO MEN AND WOMENLEAN-IN DIFFERENTLY?

>> WELL, THEY LEAN-IN FORTHE SAME REASON, MAYBE

DIFFERENT.

THEY LEAN-IN TO CREATE ABETTER WORLD WHICH SHOULD BE

A MORE EQUAL WORLD.

ONE WHERE WOMEN RAN HALF OURCOMPANIES AND MAN RAN HALF

OUR HOMES.

AND SO THEY EACH HAVE THEIRPART TO PLAY.

>> Stephen: ALL RIGHT.

NOW I READ A STUDY WHERE THEMORE HOUSEWORK MEN DO, THE

LESS SEX THEY HAVE.

>> SO THAT STUDY IS BASED ONA 1996 STUDY.

AND IT'S VERY OUT OF DATE.

HERE IS WHAT THE DATA SHOWS.

THE DATA SAYS THAT IF YOUSHARE CHORES MORE EVENLY

WHICH DOESN'T REALLY HAPPENNOW BUT COULD, YOU ARE

HAPPIERIER, IF ARE YOUHAPPIER YOU HAVE MORE SEX.

I TELL MEN IN YOU WANT MORESEX WITH YOUR WIFE, DON'T

BUY FLOWERS, DO LAUNDRY ANDTHIS WORKS.

>> Stephen: ISN'T THERE ADANGER I WILL END UP HAVING

SEX WITH THE MADE THOUGH?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

>> THIS WORKS.

>> Stephen: I'M ALL FORWOMEN WORKING.

I LOVE WOMEN WORKING.

I HAVE WOMEN WHO WORK HERE TTHEY ARE FANTASTIC.

YOU WORK.

>> I DO.

>> Stephen: SO-- BUT WHATABOUT THE OLD THING I WAS

TOLD YOU KNOW I READ, YOUKNOW, I DIDN'T READ.

I HEARD, I HEARD THAT WOMENCAN'T HAVE IT ALL.

HOW DO THEY HAVE IT ALL.

WHAT ABOUT HAVING THEBABIES.

BECAUSE MEN THROUGH NO FAULTOF OUR OWN HAVE NO WOMB.

OKAY.

I'VE TRIED.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WE TELL WOMEN THEY CAN'THAVE IT ALL.

AND BY THAT MEAN THEY CAN'TWORK AND HAVE KIDS BUT

NASS'S ABSURD BECAUSE 70% OFMOTHERS IN OUR ECONOMY WORK

AND HAVE TO WORK.

AND SO THEY ARE GOING TOWORK AND HAVE KIDS.

AND THE WAY WE CAN GET THATTO WORK OUT IS IF WHEN WOMEN

ARE COMING INTO THEWORKFORCE, LIKE WE TRY TO

ADVISE IN THIS BOOK, THEYCAN REACH, GET THE RIGHT

JOBS, GET PAID THE SAME ASMEN.

>> Stephen: CONGRATULATIONSON EQUAL PAYDAY, BY THE WAY.

>> YEAH.

>> THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, WOMEN COME INTOTHE WORKFORCE, COME INTO THE

WORKFORCE AND THEY MAKE LESSTHAN MEN.

AND PART OF THE REASON ISTHAT THEY CAN'T NEGOTIATE AS

EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE WHEN AMAN NEGOTIATES, WE THINK HE

SHOULD BE LOOKING OUT FORHIMSELF.

WHEN A WOMAN DOES-- .

>> Stephen: HELL YA, WE PUTOUR BALLS OUT THERE ON THE

TABLE.

I'M ALL IN, PUT THEM ON THEBELT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, A NEW KINDOF LEANING IN, BUT WHEN A

WOMEN NEGOTIATES SHE PAYS APENALTIES.

>> Stephen: WHAT IS THEPENALTY.

>> THEY'RE NOT LIKED.

WHEN THEY ADVOCATE FORTHEMSELVES AND IF THEY ARE

NOT LIKED THEY DON'T GET THERAISES AND PROMOTIONS SO

THERE A CHAPTER IN THE NEWBOOK FROM A COMPENSATION

EXPERT AND SHE TEACHES WOMENHOW TO NEGOTIATE SO COMMUNAL

LANGUAGE.

EXPLAIN WHY THE SALARY AREYOU LOOKING FOR IS NOT JUST

IMPORTANT FOR YOU, BUT ITWILL HELP YOU DO A BETTER

JOB TO THE ORGANIZATION.

>> Stephen: SPEAKING OFWOMEN NOT LOOKING OUT FOR

THEMSELVES AND NOT THINKINGTHEY CAN STAND UP FOR

THEMSELVES, SU HAVE APROBLEM WITH ITS WORD BOSSI.

>> WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITHTHE WORD BOSS, SOME PEOPLE

ARE BOSSI.

>> YEAH, WELL, THAT WORD ISUSED LOT MORE WITH -- IT IS

GETTING AT A VERY REALPROBLEM WHICH IS THAT BY

JUNIOR HIGH MORE GIRLS, POREBOYS WANT TO LEAD THAN

GIRLS.

AND WHEN YOU ASK THEM WHY,THEY DON'T WANT TO BE CALLED

BOSSI.

AND SO WE PUT OUT A SERIESOF LEADERSHIP TIPS FOR

PARENTS HOW ALL OF US TREATOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS

EQUALLY.

AND FOR GIRLS BECAUSE IF WEWANT EQUAL REPRESENTATION AT

THE TABLE WHERE DECISIONSARE MADE, WE NEED TO

ENCOURAGE LEADERSHIP AND WENEED TO START YOUNG DOING.

>> Stephen: BUT ISN'T, YOUKNOW, TELLING PEOPLE WHAT

WORDS NOT TO SAY KIND OFPUSHY?

>> OR EVEN BOSSI.

>> Stephen: OH, I WOULDNEVER SAY BOSSI.

>> NEVER SAY BOSSI.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE SOMEONEMIGHT BITE MY HEAD OFF.

>> WELL, THIS GOES WAYBEYOND A WORD AND IT'S

REALLY ABOUT SYSTEMICENCOURAGEMENT OF LITTLE

GIRLS AND I THINK ISSOMETHING WE CAN CHANGE.

>> Stephen: I HAVE WOMEN INMY WIFE.

I HAVE A DAUGHTER.

HOW I DO ENCOURAGE HER TOLEAN IN.

SHE'S IN THE A GRADUATE YETBUT HOW DO I ENCOURAGE HER.

>> SO BY JUNIOR HIGH PARENTSHAVE HIGHER ASPIRATIONS IN

TERMS OF LEADERSHIP FORTHEIR SONS THAN THEIR

DAUGHTERS, SO WHEN THEY TALKTO THEIR SONS ABOUT THEIR

FUTURE, THEY ASK THEM, LIKEHOW ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE

THE WORLD, BIGGER QUESTIONS,WITH THE DAUGHTERS THEY

DON'T ASK THE SAMEQUESTIONS.

ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS LOOKAT YOUR DAUGHTER AND SAY HOW

ARE YOU GOING TO LEAN N WHATDO YOU WANT TO BE DIFFERENT.

>> Stephen: WHY DO I HAVE TOUSE THE NAME OF YOUR BOOK.

>> YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T.

THAT'S OPTIONAL.

IT'S OPTIONAL.

>> Stephen: S THIS'SINCREDIBLE.

MARKETING.

YOU JUST DID, IT WASAMAZING.

>> BUT THAT'S PART'SOPTIONAL BUT THE AMBITION IS

NOT OPTIONAL.

BECAUSE WE WANT TOENGRAIN-- EMBRACE AM BILLS.

NEXT TIME YOU SEE SOMEONECALL A LITTLE GIRL BOSSI

WALK UP TO THEM AND SAY THATLITTLE GIRL IS NOT BOSSI

THAT LITTLE GIRL HASEXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP SKILLS.

>> Stephen: SO GET OFF, GETOFF THE SEA SAW, IT'S HER

TURN.

>> OR SHARE THE SEESAWBECAUSE WILL YOU MAKE BETTER

DECISIONS TOGETHER.

WHEN WOMEN ARE AT THE TABLEMAKING DECISIONS WITH MEN, I

KNOW THAT IS HARD TO IMAGINE,BUT THE DECISIONS ARE

BETTER.

>> Stephen: WE'RE DOINGRIGHT NOW.

>> RIGHT NOW, HERE WE ARE.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU AT MYTABLE RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE SHARING OUR TABLE ANDWE'RE CHANGING THE WORLD ONE

WORD AT A TIME.

>> AND I APPRECIATE THATSSES YOU'RE WELCOME.

BUT YOU DIDN'T NEED MYPERMISSION, YOU COULD HAVE

COME AND DONE MY SHOWWITHOUT ASKING.

>> REALLY?

>> Stephen: YEAH, THIS ISYOUR TABLE TOO.

THINK ANY TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Stephen: ANY TIME YOUWANT TO COME BACK AND IF YOU

CAN GET PAST SECURITY, AREYOU ABSOLUTELY-- SHERYL

SANDBERG, LEAN IN, FORGRADUATES. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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