Scientology Church Violence

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Scientology affords an ad in the Super Bowl, and former employees claim that President David Miscavige physically abuses and locks away staff. (3:51)

THANKS SO MUCH.

WELCOME BACK.

FOLKS, AS YOU KNOW, I AM AMERICA'S MOST PROMINENT CELEBRITY CATHOLIC, BUT I BELIEVE ALL OTHER FAITHS ARE

EQUALLY WRONG.

[LAUGHTER]

SO MY GUEST TONIGHT, LAWRENCE WRIGHT HAS A NEW BOOK ABOUT ONE OF THOSE FAITHS: SCIENTOLOGY.

NOW NORMALLY, I DON'T TRUST OTHER RELIGIONS, BUT I STARTED TO FEEL A CONNECTION TO

SCIENTOLOGY WHEN I SAW THEY WERE ABLE TO AFFORD AN AD IN THIS SUNDAY'S SUPERBOWL.

[LAUGHTER]

I MEAN, THAT'S THE RELIGIOUS BIG-TIME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS GOING TO COMPETE.

THE POPE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME CLYDESDALES.

[LAUGHTER]

SCIENTOLOGY WAS FOUNDED IN 1954 BY SCIENCE FICTION AUTHOR AND MILLIONAIRE-ON-GILLIGAN'S-ISLAND

L. RON HUBBARD.

[LAUGHTER]

SO WHAT DO SCIENTOLOGISTS BELIEVE?

BASICALLY THAT WE'RE ALL EXTRATERRESTRIAL BEINGS CALLED "THETANS" TRAPPED IN AN EARTH

BODY, AFTER GALACTIC LEADER XENU BROUGHT THE THETANS HERE, STACKED THEM UP AROUND VOLCANOS,

AND BLEW THEM UP WITH HYDROGEN BOMBS.

I'M SORRY, JIMMY, IS THAT CORRECT IN MY PROMPTER?

THAT IS KIND OF, WOW -- WOW, BIT OF A STRETCH.

WAIT 'TIL I TELL MY PRIEST ABOUT THIS BEFORE HE INTERCEDES WITH GOD FOR ME WHO THEN FORGIVES MY

SINS AFTER I SAY A PRAYER WHATEVER NUMBER OF TIMES THE PRIEST TOLD ME TO.

[LAUGHTER]

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

UNFORTUNATELY, THE CHURCH HAS HAD SOME RECENT PUBLIC RELATIONS PROBLEMS.

FOR INSTANCE, IT SEEMS SCIENTOLOGY PRESIDENT DAVID MISCAVIGE BELIEVES IN TOUGH LOVE, WITHOUT SO MUCH OF THE

LOVE PART.

[LAUGHTER]

JIM?

>> MARTY WRATHBUN, WHO USED TO WORK DIRECTLY UNDER DAVID MISCAVIGE, SAYS THERE'S BEEN A

CULTURE OF VIOLENCE WITHIN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHURCH, THE CULTURE ENCOURAGED BY MISCAVIGE HIMSELF.

>> MISCAVIGE IS PORTRAYED AS A RUTHLESS AND CRUEL LEADER, AT TIMES USING PHYSICAL VIOLENCE TO

GET HIS WAY AND PUNISH SUBORDINATES.

>> HE TREATS HIS SUBORDINATES IN ALL OF INTERNATIONAL MANAGEMENT LIKE SLAVES IN A SLAVE CAMP AND

LITERALLY BEATS THEM DOWN.

>> DAVID MISCAVIGE WAS THE ONE LEADING THIS WHOLE PHYSICAL VIOLENCE KICK, AND IT WAS HIM

WHO WAS BEATING PEOPLE UP.

>> Stephen: WE ASKED DAVID MISCAVIGE FOR A COMMENT, AND HE SENT THIS RESPONSE: A WATERMELON

WITH A KNIFE IN IT, WITH A NOTE THAT SAYS "YOU".

[LAUGHTER]

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

THANKFULLY, IT DOESN'T SAY "ME" OR I'D BE TERRIFIED.

[LAUGHTER]

BY THE WAY, IF ANY SCIENTOLOGY LAWYERS ARE WATCHING, THIS IS WHAT HE ACTUALLY SENT ME, FOR REAL.

I MEAN THAT AS MUCH AS ANYTHING I'VE SAID ON THIS SHOW.

[LAUGHTER]

AND NO REASONABLE PERSON WOULD THINK OTHERWISE.

[LAUGHTER]

I AWAIT YOUR SUIT.

[ LAUGHTER ]

BUT IF THE ALLEGATIONS ARE TRUE, WHY WOULD ANYBODY PUT UP WITH IT?

IT COULD BE BECAUSE WHEN HIGHER MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH JOIN THE ELITE GROUP CALLED "SEA ORG"

THEY'RE ASKED TO SIGN A BILLION YEAR CONTRACT.

[LAUGHTER]

AFTER THAT, I BELIEVE IT GOES MONTH-TO-MONTH.

[LAUGHTER]

EITHER WAY, IT'S STILL MORE FLEXIBLE THAN AT&T.

[LAUGHTER]

SO WHAT IS SCIENTOLOGY-- A RESPECTABLE MODERN RELIGION LIKE MORMONISM?

OR A WEIRD CREEPY CULT LIKE MORMONISM TWO YEARS AGO?

[LAUGHTER]

JOINING ME AFTER THE BREAK TO DISCUSS MANY OF THESE ALLEGATIONS WILL BE MAN WHO

UNCOVERED MANY OF THEM IN HIS NEW BOOK "GOING CLEAR" LAWRENCE WRIGHT.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

THANKS SO MUCH.

WELCOME BACK.

FOLKS, AS YOU KNOW, I AM AMERICA'S MOST PROMINENT CELEBRITY CATHOLIC, BUT I BELIEVE ALL OTHER FAITHS ARE

EQUALLY WRONG.

[LAUGHTER]

SO MY GUEST TONIGHT, LAWRENCE WRIGHT HAS A NEW BOOK ABOUT ONE OF THOSE FAITHS: SCIENTOLOGY.

NOW NORMALLY, I DON'T TRUST OTHER RELIGIONS, BUT I STARTED TO FEEL A CONNECTION TO

SCIENTOLOGY WHEN I SAW THEY WERE ABLE TO AFFORD AN AD IN THIS SUNDAY'S SUPERBOWL.

[LAUGHTER]

I MEAN, THAT'S THE RELIGIOUS BIG-TIME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS GOING TO COMPETE.

THE POPE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET SOME CLYDESDALES.

[LAUGHTER]

SCIENTOLOGY WAS FOUNDED IN 1954 BY SCIENCE FICTION AUTHOR AND MILLIONAIRE-ON-GILLIGAN'S-ISLAND

L. RON HUBBARD.

[LAUGHTER]

SO WHAT DO SCIENTOLOGISTS BELIEVE?

BASICALLY THAT WE'RE ALL EXTRATERRESTRIAL BEINGS CALLED "THETANS" TRAPPED IN AN EARTH

BODY, AFTER GALACTIC LEADER XENU BROUGHT THE THETANS HERE, STACKED THEM UP AROUND VOLCANOS,

AND BLEW THEM UP WITH HYDROGEN BOMBS.

I'M SORRY, JIMMY, IS THAT CORRECT IN MY PROMPTER?

THAT IS KIND OF, WOW -- WOW, BIT OF A STRETCH.

WAIT 'TIL I TELL MY PRIEST ABOUT THIS BEFORE HE INTERCEDES WITH GOD FOR ME WHO THEN FORGIVES MY

SINS AFTER I SAY A PRAYER WHATEVER NUMBER OF TIMES THE PRIEST TOLD ME TO.

[LAUGHTER]

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

UNFORTUNATELY, THE CHURCH HAS HAD SOME RECENT PUBLIC RELATIONS PROBLEMS.

FOR INSTANCE, IT SEEMS SCIENTOLOGY PRESIDENT DAVID MISCAVIGE BELIEVES IN TOUGH LOVE, WITHOUT SO MUCH OF THE

LOVE PART.

[LAUGHTER]

JIM?

>> MARTY WRATHBUN, WHO USED TO WORK DIRECTLY UNDER DAVID MISCAVIGE, SAYS THERE'S BEEN A

CULTURE OF VIOLENCE WITHIN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHURCH, THE CULTURE ENCOURAGED BY MISCAVIGE HIMSELF.

>> MISCAVIGE IS PORTRAYED AS A RUTHLESS AND CRUEL LEADER, AT TIMES USING PHYSICAL VIOLENCE TO

GET HIS WAY AND PUNISH SUBORDINATES.

>> HE TREATS HIS SUBORDINATES IN ALL OF INTERNATIONAL MANAGEMENT LIKE SLAVES IN A SLAVE CAMP AND

LITERALLY BEATS THEM DOWN.

>> DAVID MISCAVIGE WAS THE ONE LEADING THIS WHOLE PHYSICAL VIOLENCE KICK, AND IT WAS HIM

WHO WAS BEATING PEOPLE UP.

>> Stephen: WE ASKED DAVID MISCAVIGE FOR A COMMENT, AND HE SENT THIS RESPONSE: A WATERMELON

WITH A KNIFE IN IT, WITH A NOTE THAT SAYS "YOU".

[LAUGHTER]

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

THANKFULLY, IT DOESN'T SAY "ME" OR I'D BE TERRIFIED.

[LAUGHTER]

BY THE WAY, IF ANY SCIENTOLOGY LAWYERS ARE WATCHING, THIS IS WHAT HE ACTUALLY SENT ME, FOR REAL.

I MEAN THAT AS MUCH AS ANYTHING I'VE SAID ON THIS SHOW.

[LAUGHTER]

AND NO REASONABLE PERSON WOULD THINK OTHERWISE.

[LAUGHTER]

I AWAIT YOUR SUIT.

[ LAUGHTER ]

BUT IF THE ALLEGATIONS ARE TRUE, WHY WOULD ANYBODY PUT UP WITH IT?

IT COULD BE BECAUSE WHEN HIGHER MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH JOIN THE ELITE GROUP CALLED "SEA ORG"

THEY'RE ASKED TO SIGN A BILLION YEAR CONTRACT.

[LAUGHTER]

AFTER THAT, I BELIEVE IT GOES MONTH-TO-MONTH.

[LAUGHTER]

EITHER WAY, IT'S STILL MORE FLEXIBLE THAN AT&T.

[LAUGHTER]

SO WHAT IS SCIENTOLOGY-- A RESPECTABLE MODERN RELIGION LIKE MORMONISM?

OR A WEIRD CREEPY CULT LIKE MORMONISM TWO YEARS AGO?

[LAUGHTER]

JOINING ME AFTER THE BREAK TO DISCUSS MANY OF THESE ALLEGATIONS WILL BE MAN WHO

UNCOVERED MANY OF THEM IN HIS NEW BOOK "GOING CLEAR" LAWRENCE WRIGHT.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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