Dan Savage

  • Aired:  11/29/10
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Dan Savage wants Stephen to set an example for high-profile conservative pundits by making a video for the It Gets Better Project. (6:28)

EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT HAS STARTED AN

IMPORTANT PROJECT TO TELL YOUNG,

GAY TEENS THAT AFTER HIGH SCHOOL

LIFE DOES GET BETTER, WHICH IS

TRUE, AS LONG AS GAY PEOPLE

DON'T NEED JOBS.

PLEASE WELCOME DAN SAVAGE.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) HEY,

DAN, WELCOME BACK.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

BEFORE WE GET INTO THE PROJECT,

YOU'VE BEEN HERE ON THE SHOW

MANY TIMES.

ONE OF THE THINGS I FORGOT TO

ASK YOU IN YEARS PAST, YOU'RE AN

ADVICE COLUMNIST.

>> CORRECT.

>> Stephen: YOU GIVE SEX

ADVICE SOMETIMES?

>> THAT'S TRUE.

DO YOU NEED SOME?

>> Stephen: HERE'S THE THING.

HERE'S WHY AS A STRAIGHT GUY I

WOULD NEVER ASK YOUR ADVICE, AND

IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE GAY.

IT'S BECAUSE I'M NOT.

OKAY.

AND IF YOU TOLD ME SOMETHING

THAT SOUNDED COOL, I MIGHT TRY

IT AND FIND OUT LATER THAT WAS

GAY.

( LAUGHTER )

THEN I'D BE LIKE, AM I GAY NOW?

I WOULDN'T KNOW.

DO YOU HAVE THAT PROBLEM WITH A

LOT OF GUYS.

>> NO, YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAY

AWAY FROM PEGGING THEN IF YOU

KNOW THAT DEFINITION.

>> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW

PEGGY.

>> PEGGING.

>> Stephen: WHAT'S THAT?

>> THAT'S HER IN THE ACTIVE ROLE

PENETRATING HIM WITH [BLEEPED].

>> Stephen: ALL RIGHT.

I TELL YOU WHAT, I WILL CROSS

THAT RIGHT OFF.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

>> YOU CAN CROSS THAT RIGHT OFF

YOUR BUCKET LIST BECAUSE YOU'VE

ALREADY DONE THAT?

>> Stephen:, NO I THINK YOUR

DESCRIPTION WAS VIVID ENOUGH.

I FEEL LIKE I WAS THERE.

YOU PAINTED A PICTURE OF ME.

THE SUBJECT AT HAND, THERE HAS

BEEN A SPATE OF HEARTBREAKING

SUICIDES BY GAY TEENAGE KIDS.

WHAT IS YOUR PROJECT "IT GETS

BETTER" AND WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO

DO?

>> I HEARD ABOUT THESE SUICIDES

AND HAD THE REACTION I ALWAYS

HAD WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THESE

SUICIDES WHICH IS I WISH I COULD

HAVE TALKED TO THAT KID FOR FIVE

MINUTES AND BE ABLE TO TELL HIM

THAT IT WOULD GET BETTER.

BECAUSE WHEN A 13 OR 14-YEAR-OLD

GAY KID OR LESBIAN OR BY IS

SAYING HE CAN'T PICTURE A FUTURE

WITH ENOUGH JOY TO COMPENSATE

FOR THE PAIN I'M IN NOW.

AND SO MANY ISOLATED AND BULLIED

AND ABUSED LGBT KIDS CAN'T

PICTURE THOSE FUTURES BECAUSE

THEY DON'T KNOW ANY OPENLY GAY

PEOPLE AND THEY'RE NOT AROUND

ANY OPENLY GAY PEOPLE.

>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU THINK

MAKES THE DIFFERENCE FOR A

HOMOSEXUAL TEENAGER AS OPPOSED

TO ANY OTHER PRETTY MISERABLE

TEENAGER?

BECAUSE I'M IN ABSOLUTELY NO WAY

DIMINISHING THE MISERY A GAY

TEENAGER GOES THROUGHMENT I AM

SURE IT IS ROUGH.

BUT I SEEM TO REMEMBER HIGH

SCHOOL BEING ROUGH.

DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE ANY

SOLACE IN GAY TEENAGERS HEARING,

HEY, LOOK AROUND YOU, THE

CLARINET PLAYER IS GETTING

BEATEN ON A DAILY BASIS?

>> THE CLARINET PLAYER IS

PROBABLY BEING CALLED FAG WHILE

HE'S BEING BEATEN UP.

A LOT OF ANTI-GAY BULLYING

TARGETS KIDS PERCEIVED TO BE

GAY.

THE CLARINETIST OR THE KID WHO

IS A GEEK WHO IS STRAIGHT WHO IS

BULLIED FOR BEING A GEEK DOESN'T

GO HOME TO PARENTS WHO ALSO

BULLY HIM FOR BEING A GEEK.

HOME FOR STRAIGHT KIDS IS A

REFUGE WHERE YOU HAVE A SHOULDER

TO CRY ON AND PARENTS WHO ARE

SUPPORTIVE.

AND THAT GEEKY STRAIGHT KID

ISN'T DRAGGED TO A CHURCH WHERE

THE PASTOR SAYS GOD HATES GEEKS

AND SENDS GEEKS TO HELL AND

BEING A GEEK OR A BRAIN OR

CLARINETIST IS A PERVERSION AND

ABOMINATION.

>> Stephen: WHO DID THIS FOR

YOU WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER?

>> WHO BULLIED ME?

>> Stephen: NO, YOU CAN TELL

ME THAT TOO, BUT DID ANYBODY DO

THIS FOR YOU?

WHO GAVE YOU HOPE OR WHERE WAS

YOUR HOPE THIS WOULD GET BETTER?

>> I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GO UP

IN CHICAGO SO I COULD SEE OPENLY

GAY PEOPLE AT THE MOVIE, DINNER,

OUT IN THE CITY BECAUSE THE CITY

IS SUCH A LARGE, DIVERSE PLACE.

LOOK WHERE THESE SUICIDES ARE

TAKING PLACE, GREENSBERG,

INDIANA, THESE SMALL TOWNS IN

CALIFORNIA AND THE SOUTH WHERE

THERE AREN'T ANY OPENLY GAY

ADULTS.

THERE'S REALLY NOTHING AROUND TO

LET THESE KIDS KNOW IT WILL GET

BETTER FOR THEM, THAT THEY CAN

HAVE A ADULT LIFE AND BE A

SUCCESS.

>> Stephen: YOU'VE GOT SOME

FAIRLY IMPRESSIVE PEOPLE DOING

THESE VIDEOS.

WE HAVE PART OF THE VIDEO FROM

JOHN BARRY, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR

OF "THE OFFICE" PERSONNEL

MANAGEMENT.

HE'S THE HEAD PERSONNEL GUY FOR

THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,

RIGHT?

>> BARACK OBAMA'S HIGHEST OPENLY

GAY OR LESBIAN APPOINTEE IN THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

>> LET'S SEE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.

>> I AM THE HIGHEST RANK OPENLY

GAY MAN IN THE UNITED STATES

HISTORY.

I HAVE MANAGED 40% OF UNITED

STATES' LAW ENFORCEMENT,

INCLUDING THE SECRET SERVICE,

THE PARK SERVICE, AND I'VE EVEN

BEEN DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL

ZOO.

YOU CAN BE WHATEVER YOU WANT.

YOU CAN LOVE WHOMEVER YOU WANT,

BUT ONLY IF YOU FIRST LOVE

YOURSELF.

>> Stephen: THAT'S A POWERFUL

MESSAGE.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

WHO ELSE YOU GOT?

YOU GOTBAUM?

>> PRESIDENT OBAMA.

>> Stephen: JOE BIDEN.

>> THE PRESIDENT -- PRIME

MINISTER OF ENGLAND, A

CONSERVATIVE.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY REPUBLICAN

ELECTED OFFICIALS OR

HIGH-PROFILE CONSERVATIVE

PUNDITS.

>> Stephen: DOES THIS PROGRAM

INCLUDE TAX CUTS?

>> I THINK TAX CUTS CUT ACROSS

ALL SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS.

WOULD YOU MAKE ONE?

WOULD YOU SET AN EXAMPLE?

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Stephen: LET ME ASK YOU

SOMETHING?

DOES THIS IN ANY WAY INVOLVE

PEGGING?

( LAUGHTER )

>> YOU'RE FREE TO CREATE YOUR

OWN VIDEO.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY CREATIVE,

SO YOU CAN INCLUDE PEGGING, BUT

YOU WOULD HAVE TO THEN UPLOAD IT

TO X-TUBE AND NOT YOUTUBE.

>> VERY KIND OF YOU.

I'LL TAKE THAT UNDER

CONSIDERATION.

YES, I WOULD DO ONE.

AND I ENCOURAGE ALL MY

CONSERVATIVE PUNDITS TO DO THE

SAME.

DAN SAVAGE, "IT GETS

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