Glenn Greenwald Pt. 2

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"No Place to Hide" author Glenn Greenwald describes unpublished internal documents that detail the scope of NSA spying. (3:22)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: WE'RE BACK WITH

GLENN GREENWALD, THE INTOOKNO PLACE TO HIDE.

OKAY, WHAT ELSE IS IN THISBOOK.

YOU'VE GOT NEW REVELATIONSIN THIS BOOK.

WHAT ARE SO THINGS THAT WEDIDN'T KNOW THAT ARE

SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO SHOCK MYCONSCIOUS.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THATHAPPENED IS THE NSA MADE ALL

KINDS OF CLAIMS OF WHAT THEYARE DOING AND NOT DOING AND

WE HAVE MADE OTHER CLAIMSAND A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE

IN CONFLICT SO WHAT I WANTEDTO DO WAS PUBLISH A DOCUMENT

THAT THE NSA CREATED WHENTHEY THOUGHT THEY WERE

SPEAKING IN PRIVATE.

THAT THEY THOUGHT NOBODY WOULDKNOW WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.

SO MANY OF THE DOCUMENTSTHEY DESCRIBE THEIR OBJECTIVES

AND MISSIONS IS WILDLYDIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY SAY

IN PUBLIC SO THERE IS ONEDOCUMENT THAT SAYS OUR

COLLECTIVE POSTURE ISCOLLECT IT ALL, SNIFF IT ALL,

PROCESS IT ALL, EXPLOIT ITALL.

NOT COLLECT THECOMMUNICATION OF TERRORISTS

OR PEOPLE DOING BAD THINGS,COLLECT IT ALL.

THEY COLLECT BILLIONS, SNIFFIT ALL, EXPLOIT ALL.

>> PROCESS IT ALL.

>> Stephen: WOW.

>> AND THEY COLLECT BILLIONS,BILLIONS WITH A B OF E-MAILS

AND TELEPHONE CALLS EVERYSINGLE DAY.

SO THEY DO THINGS LIKE IFPEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD BUY

ROUTERS WHICH IS FROMAMERICAN COMPANIES THEY

LITERALLY PHYSICALLY-- TAKE THEPRODUCT OUT OF THE MAIL,

OPEN UP THE PACKAGE,STICK A BACK DOOR DEVICE

INTO IT AND RESEAL IT THEFACTORY PRODUCT AND SEND IT

ON TO THE UNWITTING USER.

>> Stephen: INTERNET ROUTER,A SWITCH, A SERVER, THINGS

THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ACCUSINGTHE CHINESE GOVERNMENT OF

DOING FOR YEARS AND URGINGPEOPLE NOT TO BUY CHINESE

PRODUCTS WHICH THEYTHEMSELVES HAVE BEEN DOING

SO PEOPLE WILL BUY AMERICANPRODUCTS THAT THEY CAN

INVADE.

>> Stephen: SO IF I, IF MYNET GEAR ROUTER ISN'T

WORKING ONE DAY I CAN JUSTCALL THE NSA FOR CUSTOMER

SERVICE?

>> THEY PROBABLY CAMEFROM THERE SO IT'S A GOOD

CHANCE THAT IT DID.

SO MAYBE THEY CAN HELP YOUWITH IT.

>> Stephen: ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU DON'T LIVE IN THEUNITED STATES ANY MORE.

WHAT ARE YOU HIDING, YOU LIVE INBRAZIL.

>> I DO.

>> Stephen: THEY DO TERRIBLETHINGS.

THE UNITED STATES MAYCOLLECT ALL OF OUR E-MAILS

BUT THEY TAKE ALL OF YOURBODY HAIR.

THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHINGSHADY ABOUT THAT.

>> THAT IS THE NEXT BOOK.

>> Stephen: THAT WILL SELL ALOT.

>> THERE ARE PICTURES ANDEVERYTHING.

>> Stephen: YOU SAID THEREARE MORE STORIES COMING.

IS THERE ANYTHING AS BIG ANDAS JUICY AS HAS ALREADY BEEN

RELEASED?

>> I GENUINELY BELIEVE THATTHE STORY THAT IS THE

BIGGEST ONE THAT WILL MAKETHE BIGGEST IMPACT AND WILL

SHAPE HOW THE EVENTS OF THELAST TEN MONTHS ARE VIEWED

BY HISTORY IS THE STORY ONWHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY WORK

THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE READYWITHIN FOUR TO EIGHT WEEKS.

>> Stephen: WHAT IS ITABOUT.

>> IT IS ONE OF THE MISSINGPIECES IS ON WHOM IS THE NSA

SPYING IN AMERICA, WHO ARETHEY TARGETING, FOR WHAT

PURPOSE WHO ARE THESE PEOPLETHAT THEY ARE DECLARING TO

BE SUFFICIENT THREATS THATIT WARRANTS READING THEIR

E-MAILS AND WHAT IS THEPATTERN OF PEOPLE THAT THEY

HAVE TARGETED.

ARE THESE POLITICALDISSIDENT, CRITICS OF U.S.

FOREIGN POLICY OR TERRORIST,THAT IS THE REPORTING THAT

REMAINS TO BE DONE.

>> Stephen: IS IT GOOD NEWS?

>> IT'S HARD FOR ME TOPREVIEW BUT I THINK YOU CAN

ASSUME THAT IF I THINK IT'STHE BIGGEST STORY THAT WILL

SAY HOW IT GETS REMEMBEREDTHAT WILL ARE VOLUME

INTERESTING REVELATIONS THATWE ARE WORKING AS HARD AND

FAST AS WE CAN TO GETPUBLISHED AND LOTS OF OTHER

STORIES THAT REMAIN FROM THEARCHIVES AS WELL.

>> Stephen: GLENN, THANK YOUSO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE ELSESTART YOUR CAR FOR A WHILE,

ALL RIGHT?

GLENN GREENWALD NO PLACE TOHIDE.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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