Jorge Ramos

  • Aired:  10/02/12
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Mexican journalist Jorge Ramos discusses the presidential election, self-deportation and the civic contributions of undocumented immigrants. (5:56)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY!

MY GUEST TONIGHT HAS S KNOWN AS THE LATINO WALTER CRONKITE.

I WILL BEGIN ALL OF MY QUESTIONS WITH AN UP SIDE DOWN QUESTION MARK.

(LAUGHTER) PLEASE WELCOME JORGE RAMOS!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) THANKS.

JORGE, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANKS FOR COMING BACK.

>> THANKS FOR INVITING ME.

>> Stephen: EL YOU'RE WELCOME.

(LAUGHTER) YOU'RE A JOURNALIST, YOU'RE A COLUMNIST IN, AN AUTHOR AND, SINCE 1986 YOU'RE THE ANCHORMAN

FOR NOTICIERO UNIVISION.

OKAY, SO YOU'RE THE BIG ANCHOR FOR THE LATIN SPEAKERS IN AMERICA.

>> UH-HUH.

>> Dave: YOU-- IS THE LATINO OR HISPANIC-- IS THAT THE SAME THING?

>> USUALLY YOU USE HISPANIC FOR THOSE ON THE EAST COAST AND LATINO FOR THE WEST COAST BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

>> Stephen: SO IT'S LIKE AN EAST COAST/WEST COAST KIND OF GANG.

>> YEAH BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

>> Stephen: I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT THROWING ANY SIGNS TONIGHT.

(LAUGHTER) IS THE HISPANIC VOTE STILL IN PLAY?

>> NOT REALLY.

I JUST SAY THE LATEST POLL FROM LATINO DECISIONS AND 73% OF LATINOS TEND TO BE-- THEY SAID THEY'LL BE VOTING FOR PRESIDENT

BARACK OBAMA.

ABOUT 21% FOR MITT ROMNEY.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) MOSTLY LATINOS TEND TO VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS, NOT REPUBLICANS.

>> Stephen: BUT WHY?

ROMNEY'S FATHER WAS BORN IN MEXICO!

(LAUGHTER) HE'S A LATINO!

>> HE WAS BORN IN-- YOU KNOW, I ASKED HIM IF HE WAS A LATINO AND HE TOLD ME NO.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE TOO MUCH IF HE'S DOING ONLY 21%.

HE WOULD BE DOING 15% OR 16%.

>> Stephen: HE DID HIS BEST TO APPEAR LATINO WHEN HE WAS THERE.

JIMMY, CAN WE PUT UP THE PICTURE HERE?

ON THE LEFT HERE IS ROMNEY WHEN HE WAS IN MIAMI TWO DAYS BEFORE.

ON THE RIGHT IS WHEN HE WAS TALKING WITH YOU ON UNIVISION.

>> THAT IS TRUE BUT THE NUMBERS-- HE SPENT A FEW DAYS IN FLORIDA SO THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Stephen: HE WAS APPARENTLY CAMPAIGNING IN A NUCLEAR REACTOR.

(LAUGHTER) WHICH CANDIDATE-- YOU ALSO DO ANALYSIS, RIGHT?

WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY?

>> THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS SUPPORTED COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM.

THAT'S GIVING 11 MILLION IMMIGRANTS A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP.

>> Stephen: HE SAID HE WOULD DO THAT.

>> HE BROKE A PROMISE.

>> Stephen:

>> AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT IT.

>> Stephen: THIS IS PAYBACK TIME.

>> I ASKED HIM WHY HE BROKE THE PROMISE AND HE TOLD ME HE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE REPUBLICANS.

BUT A PROMISE IS A PROMISE, I TOLD HIM.

ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE TO SAY THAT GOVERNOR ROMNEY HE LIKED THIS IDEA OF SELF-DEPORTATION.

>> Stephen: SPEAKING SPANISH

>> HE SAID HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A MODEL FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY WHEN IT COMES TO VERIFYING THE IDENTIFICATION OF EMPLOYEES.

>> Stephen: ISN'T THAT EMPOWERING FOR THE LATINO COMMUNITY TO SAY "YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DEPORT YOURSELF.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.

IT'S A MATTER OF TRUST.

>> NOT EXACTLY.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH THOUSANDS OF IMMIGRANTS AND I HAVEN'T FOUND A SINGLE ONE OF THEM WHO WANTS TO SELF-DEPORT.

(LAUGHTER) I THINK SELF-DEPORTATION IS NOT A SOLUTION, IT'S A REALLY, REALLY BAD IDEA.

IT'S ABOUT WELCOMING IMMIGRANTS, NOT ABOUT THROWING THEM OUT.

(APPLAUSE)

>> ROMNEY'S RIGHT.

YOU GUYS ARE LIKE THE 47% WHO ARE DEPENDING ON THE GOVERNMENT TO DEPORT PEOPLE.

IS THAT WHY YOU LIKE OBAMA BECAUSE OBAMA HAS SUPPORTED A TON OF YOU PEOPLE.

-- DEPORT ADD TON OF YOU PEOPLE.

>> WELL, PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA HAS DEPORTED MORE IMMIGRANTS THAN ANY PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.

>> Stephen: SO YOU GET A FREE RIDE TO THE BORDER.

(LAUGHTER)

>> WHAT I WOULD SAY IS IMMIGRANTS CONTRIBUTE MUCH MORE TO THIS COUNTRY THAN WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT THINK.

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS PAY TAXES AND DO THE JOBS--

>> THEY ARE CRIMINALS, THEY'RE ILLEGALS.

THEY BROKE THE LAW.

YOU KNOW THE LAW?

THEY BROKE THE LAW.

IF YOU BREAK THE LAW YOU'RE A CRIMINAL, JORGE.

>> AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO BENEFIT FROM THEIR WORK AND THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN COMPANIES

WHO HIRE THEM.

AND WE DON'T CALL THEM ILLEGAL SO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT CO-RESPONSIBILITY.

THEY ARE HERE BECAUSE WE BENEFIT FROM THE WORK.

(APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: I DON'T HAVE A COMEBACK FOR THAT SO THEY'LL EDIT IT OUT OF THE INTERVIEW.

(LAUGHTER)

>> WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY HARVEST THE FOOD THAT WE HAVE FOR BREAKFAST AND FOR LUNCH.

THEY'RE BUILDING THE HOMES WHERE WE LIVE.

THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR KIDS.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM A SOLUTION.

SELF-DEPORTATION IS NOT A SOLUTION.

>> Stephen: WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?

WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND EVERYBODY GETS TO STAY?

>> WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM.

>> Stephen: AMNESTY?

>> IT'S NOT AN AMNESTY BECAUSE THEY WOULD GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE.

BUT THEY ARE HERE BECAUSE WE NEED THEM AND THEY CAME HERE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE ARE HIRING THEM.

WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE.

>> Stephen: LET ME GET ONE MORE STAB FOR YOU GUYS TO VOTE REPUBLICAN.

YOU GUYS LIKE GEORGE W. BUSH.

YOU LIKED HIM.

WHY NOT ROMNEY?

>> HE GOT 44% OF THE HISPANIC VOTE BUT HE WAS THE FIRST U.S.

PRESIDENT WHO THOUGHT-THE-THAT HE SPOKE SPANISH.

(LAUGHTER) (APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: HE THOUGHT HE SPOKE ENGLISH, TOO.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) JORGE RAMOS, THANK YOU SO MUCH!

JORGE RAMOS, UNIVISION, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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