Grover Norquist

  • Aired:  06/27/11
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Grover Norquist, lobbyist for Americans for Tax Reform, must choose between terrorized grandmothers and higher taxes. (6:31)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS THE

PRESIDENT OF AMERICANS FOR TAX

REFORM.

HE IS NOT GOING TO LIKE MY 45%

GUEST TAX.

PLEASE WELCOME GROVER NORQUIST.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU, STEVEN.

>> Stephen: THREE YEARS,

SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>> EXACTLY ABOUT THREE YEARS,

YEAH.

>> Stephen: GOOD TO SEE YOU

AGAIN.

NOW, SIR, FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE

WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHAT AMERICANS

FOR TAX REFORM IS, EXPLAIN WHAT

THE PURPOSE OF YOUR ORGANIZATION

IS.

>> FIRST OF ALL, WE ASK ALL

CANDIDATES FOR OFFICE TO SIGN A

PLEDGE NOT TO RAISE TAXES THEN

WE LET VOTERS KNOW WHO'S WILLING

TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT AND WHO

DOES OR DOESN'T LIVE BY IT.

>> Stephen: HOW LONG HAVE YOU

BEEN DOING THAT?

>> 20 YEARS.

>> Stephen: REALLY.

>> YUP.

>> Stephen: AND YOU'VE GOT IT ON

RECORD.

IS THIS THE PLEDGE RIGHT HERE?

>> THAT'S THE PLEDGE.

>> Stephen: SO THEY TAKE THIS

PLEDGE AND YOU'VE GOT A RECORD

OF THEM HAVING TAKEN THE PLEDGE

AND IF THEY BACK OUT ON THIS

PLEDGE?

>> WELL....

>> Stephen: IT'S HAMMER TIME!

>> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEY'RE

ACTUAL VOTERS.

THE PLEDGE IS NOT TO AMERICANS

FOR TAX REFORM, IT'S THE THE

VOTERS OF THEIR STATE AND THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE.

AND PEOPLE HOLD THEM

RESPONSIBLE.

GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, BUSH

41 HAD A FAIRLY REASONABLELY

SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENCY.

HE ENDED THE COLD WAR WITHOUT A

LOT OF BLOOD ON THE FLOOR.

>> Stephen: ABSOLUTELY.

>> GOT IRAQ OUT OF KUWAIT

WITHOUT OCCUPYING THE PLACE FOR

THE NEXT 12 YEARS AND HE HAD ONE

SMALL PROBLEM AND THIS IS THAT

HE RAISED TAXES WHEN HE PROMISED

HE WOULDN'T.

AND HE LOST HIS JOB.

>> Stephen: DID HE SIGN THIS?

>> HE DID, INDEED, YEAH.

>> Stephen: DID YOU WAVE THIS

BLOODY SHIRT DURING THAT

CAMPAIGN TO BRING THAT GUY DOWN?

>> I DIDN'T NEED TO.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DID.

>> Stephen: DID YOU SHOW THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE THE SHIRT?

(LAUGHTER)

DID YOU DISTRIBUTE THIS TO

EVERYONE IN AMERICA?

HOW DO THEY GET THIS?

>> THE MEDIA LETS PEOPLE KNOW

AND VOTERS KNOW.

SO WE SHARE THE PLEDGE,

OBVIOUSLY.

SINCE YOU TOOK THE PLEDGE THREE

YEARS AGO WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING

TO POSSIBLY RUN FOR

PRESIDENT....

>> Stephen: LOOKING TO RUN A

RUN?

I RAN FOR PRESIDENT, SIR.

(LAUGHTER)

AND IT WAS ONLY...

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

AND IT'S ONLY THAT I WAS NOT

ALLOWED TO THAT OBAMA'S NOT IN

OFFICE TODAY.

(LAUGHTER)

>> SINCE THEN WE NOW HAVE 236

MEMBERS OF THE U.S. HOUSE WHO'VE

MADE THE COMMITMENT NOT TO RAISE

TAXES.

41 SENATORS AND FOR THAT

REASON... 13 GOVERNORS AS WELL

AS 1,200 STATE LEGISLATORS.

>> Stephen: CAN PEOPLE SAY "I

WON'T RAISE TAXES" WITHOUT

SIGNING THIS PLEDGE?

BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY TO THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE "HEY, I'M NOT

GOING TO RAISE TAXES" AND IS

THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU?

>> WELL, A LOT OF POLITICIANS

FOR THE LAST 200 YEARS HAVE SAID

"I WON'T RAISE TAXES" OR "I'D

PREFER NOT TO RAISE TAXES, IT

WOULD BE A LAST RESORT."

>> Stephen: I LOVE MY WIFE...

>> ...HOWEVER.

(LAUGHTER)

PEOPLE TEND NOT TO TRUST THAT

WHICH IS WHY NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE

IN THE WRITING BUT WE HAVE TWO

WITNESSES, IT'S DATED AND WE

KEEP HIT IN THE SAFE.

>> Stephen: ANYBODY THIS YEAR

YOU WANT TO GET THAT YOU HAVEN'T

GOTTEN YET?

>> ON THE PLEDGE, WE HAVE ALL

THE REPUBLICANS RUNNING FOR THE

PLEDGE RIGHT NOW EITHER SIGNED

OR COMMITTED TO EXCEPT HUNTSMAN

IS THE ONE WHO HASN'T YET.

>> Stephen: WHAT?

REALLY?

(LAUGHTER)

>> HE JUST STARTED.

CUT HIM SOME SLACK.

>> Stephen: WOULDN'T YOU

RECOMMEND PEOPLE DO THIS FIRST?

>> WE DO URGE PEOPLE SIGN EARLY,

NOT NECESSARILY OFTEN, BUT EARLY

YES.

(LAUGHTER)

WE'LL GET THERE.

>> Stephen: LET'S DO THE PLEDGE

AGAIN BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT.

I PLEDGE TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THE

UNITED STATES OF NAESHG I WILL

OPPOSE AND VETO ANY AND ALL

EFFORTS TO INCREASE TAXES.

>> FAIRLY SIMPLE.

>> Stephen: I'VE GOT TO SAY,

GROVER, I DON'T SEE "UNDER GOD"

ANYWHERE IN THIS PLEDGE.

(LAUGHTER)

HOW CAN BIT A PROPER PLEDGE IF

IT DOESN'T SAY "UNDER GOD"?

>> WELL, YOU COULD ADD THAT IF

YOU'D LIKE BUT OTHERWISE IT'S

NOT UP TO...

(LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: NOW, WOULD YOU SIGN

MY PLEDGE THAT YOU WILL ADD

"UNDER GOD" TO YOUR PLEDGE?

>> WE'LL TAKE IT UNDER

ADVISEMENT.

WE HAVEN'T CHANGED IN THE 24

YEARS.

>> Stephen: SIR, WHAT'S WRONG

WITH "UNDER GOD"?

>> NOTHING'S WRONG....

>> Stephen: BY GOD, OF COURSE,

WE MEAN JESUS.

(LAUGHTER)

PEOPLE OF ALL FAITHS ARE

ENCOURAGED TO SIGN THE PLEDGE.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

>> THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT NOT

TO RAISE TAXES IS ONLY IF PEOPLE

TAKE PLEDGE NOT TO RAISE TAXES

DO YOU EVEN GET A CONVERSATION

ABOUT REIGNING IN SPENDING AND

OVERSPEDING IS THE PROBLEM THAT

WE HAVE BOTH IN D.C. AND IN ALL

50 STATE CAPITALS.

>> Stephen: NOW, YOU SUPPORT THE

REPUBLICANS WALKING OUT ON THE

NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEMOCRATS

RECENTLY, RIGHT?

BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE DEBT

CEILING COMING UP, WE CAN'T MAKE

OUR ENDS MEET COME AUGUST 3,

SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BALLPARK

IT?

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: THAT'S WHEN WE

DEFAULT.

ARE YOU IN FAVOR-- AS I AM-- OF

DEFAULTING ON OUR DEBTS,

CHANGING OUR NAMES AND MOVING TO

CANADA?

(LAUGHTER)

>> THAT'S NOT A STRATEGY I'D

THOUGHT OF.

I WAS SORT OF GOING FOR THE

ORIGINAL ONE WHICH IS ONLY AN

INCREASE OF THE DEBT OF $2

TRILLION, WHICH IS WHAT BARACK

OBAMA WANTS IF WE GET $2

TRILLION IN SPENDING REDUCTION

IN A SERIOUS AND REAL FORM.

>> Stephen: OKAY, I'M GOING TO

ASK YOU A TRICK QUESTION.

>> SURE.

>> Stephen: I HOPE YOU HAVE THE

RIGHT ANSWER.

IS THERE ANY TIME AND ANY

CIRCUMSTANCE UNDER WHICH RAISING

TAXES WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING

TO DO?

>> NO.

>> Stephen: GOOD ANSWER.

(LAUGHTER)

OKAY.

NOW LET'S AMP IT UP A LITTLE

BIT.

OKAY?

TERRORISTS HAVE KIDNAPPED ALL OF

OUR GRANDMOTHERS.

(LAUGHTER)

THEY'VE GOT THEM IN A

SUBTERRANEAN BORROW WHICH YOU

KNOW THEY HAVE AND ALL OF OUR

GRANDMOTHERS HAVE BEEN SLATHERED

WITH HONEY AND THEY'RE GOING TO

RELEASE FIRE ANTS INTO THIS

BOROUGH THAT WILL BITE OUR

GRANDMOTHERS TO DEATH.

THEIR ONLY DEMANDD IS THAT WE

INCREASE THE MARGINAL TAX RATE

ON THE TOP 2% OF AMERICANS AND

WE WILL RELEASE THEM.

(LAUGHTER)

DO WE INCREASE THE TAX RATE OR

DO WE LET OUR GRANDMOTHERS DIE

BY ANT BITE?

(LAUGHTER)

>> I THINK WE CONSOLE OURSELVES

WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE

PICTURES.

(AUDIENCE REACTS)

>> Stephen: NO, THAT'S THE RIGHT

ANSWER.

THE MAN SIGNED A PLEDGE.

GRANDMOTHERS BE DAMNED!

HE SIGNED A PLEDGE.

GROVER, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

(APPLAUSE)

THE PRESIDENT OF AMERICANS FOR

TAX REFO

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