United Nations on Syria Conflict - Andrew Sullivan

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Political blogger Andrew Sullivan trusts the U.N. Security Council more than America to resolve the crisis in Syria. (5:45)

BUT, FOLKS, YOU KNOW WHAT?

I'M BEGINNING TO WORRY THAT THEAPOCALYPSE MAY NOT START IN

SYRIA AFTER ALL.

>> THE U.S. AND RUSSIA SAY THEYHAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT WILL

AVERT AMERICAN AIR STRIKES BYREMOVING OR DESTROYING ALL

CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN SYRIA.

>> I SAY THIS PROVES OBAMA IS ASECRET MUSLIM.

HE'S REFUSING TO BOMB SOMEONEJUST TO KEEP JESUS FROM COMING

BACK!

(LAUGHTER)THAT'S KIND OF PETTY.

SO I AM PRAYING, PRAYING, THISDIPLOMATIC SOLUTION FALLS

THROUGH BECAUSE, FRANKLY, I DONOT WANT TO SEE THE DAY OBAMA

FINALLY EARNS THE NOBEL PEACEPRIZE HE ALREADY WON.

(LAUGHTER)BUT WITH THE DEFACE ALREADY

HAMMERED OUT, HOW COULD ITPOSSIBLY FALL THROUGH?

>> U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE JOHNKERRY SAID THEY WOULD SEEK A

UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION WITHSERIOUS CONSEQUENCES FOR SYRIA

IF IT FAILS TO HAND OVER ITSCHEMICAL WEAPONS.

>> THE U.S. HAS SAID THE U.N.

RESOLUTION DOESN'T HAVE TOTHREATEN MILITARY ACTION.

>> Stephen: OH.

THE U.N. IS HANDLING IT.

(LAUGHTER)WELL, THAT MAKES IT RATHER

U.N.-LIKELY TO SUCCEED.

(LAUGHTER)I MEAN, FOR PETE'S SAKE --

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)FOR PETE'S SAKE THESE PEOPLE

STILL WEAR HEAD PHONES LIKETHIS.

(LAUGHTER)GUYS, COME ON!

IT'S 2013, GET SOME BEATS FORGODS SAKES.

(LAUGHTER)I MEAN, THERE IS NO TWAY U.N.

CAN RESOLVE THE CRISIS IN SYRIA!

AND HERE TO TELL ME HOW THE U.N.

CAN RESOLVE THE CRISIS IN SYRIAIS BLOGGER AND FOUNDER OF THE

DISH MR. ANDREW SULLIVAN.

ANDREW, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)ANDREW, DO YOU BELIEVE WHEN IT

COMES TO TAKING MILITARY ACTIONAGAINST BASHAR AL-ASSAD USING

CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE YOU INFAVOR OF DOING SOMETHING OR

DOING NOTHING?

>> DOING SOMETHING THAT DOES NOTMEAN WE GET INVOLVED IN SOMEONE

ELSE'S CIVIL WAR.

THAT'S WHAT I'M IN FAVOR OF ANDTHAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT.

>> Stephen: SO DOING SOMETHINGTHAT IS NOTHING?

>> NO.

>> Stephen: LIKE?

YOU WANT TO GET THE U.N.

INVOLVED?

>> NO, I WANT RUSSIA WHICH ISTHE CRITICAL MEMBER OF THE

SECURITY COUNCIL INVOLVED HEREAND CHINA ON THE SECURITY

COUNCIL WHO HAVE TAKENRESPONSIBILITY SAYING WE'RE

GOING TO MAKE SURE ASSADCONTROLS AND EVENTUALLY DESTROYS

HIS CHEMICAL WEAPONS.

>> Stephen: YOU TRUST RUSSIA ANDCHINA MORE THAN YOU TRUST THE

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

YOUR WORD!

THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST SAID!

(LAUGHTER)>> LET ME TELL YOU --.

>> Stephen: ANSWER THE QUESTION.

DO YOU TRUST PUTIN AND WHOEVERCHINA PUTIN IS --

(LAUGHTER)-- DO YOU TRUST THOSE GUYS MORE

THAN BARACK OBAMA?

OUR COMMANDER?

CHIEF?

>> YES, BECAUSE THE WORLD HASSEEN AMERICA GO INTO THESE

PLACES ALONE.

>> Stephen: AND KICK ASS ANDTAKE NAMES.

>> AND MAKE AN ALL MIGHTY MESSIN WHICH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS

OF PEOPLE DIE, WE LOST TRILLIONSOF DOLLARS.

IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO GET ITDONE AND NOT PROVOKE OUTCRY AND

ACTUALLY GET ASSAD'S COOPERATIONTHEN GETTING RUSSIA AND CHINA TO

DO OUR DIRTY WORK FOR US IS AGREAT THING.

OUR GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE THEBIGGEST EGO IN THE WORLD --.

>> Stephen: WHAT'S THE STICK?

>> THE STICK IS THAT WE THREATENMILITARY STRIKES AGAINST THEM.

>> Stephen: RIGHT!

AND YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO GOTHROUGH WITH THAT!

AND IF THEY DON'T COMPLY AND IFASSAD DOES USE CHEMICAL WEAPONS

AGAIN OBAMA HAS A MUCH STRONGERCASE TO MAKE "LOOK, WE TRIED

PEACE, WE TRIED THIS PROCESS,NOW IT DOESN'T WORK, WE HAVE A

RIGHT TO STOP THESE WEAPONS."

>> Stephen: SO YOU BELIEVE THATIF THE DEAL DOESN'T GO THROUGH,

IF IT FALLS APART IT'S TIME TOTURN DAMASCUS INTO THE

BOOM-BOOM?

(LAUGHTER)>> NO, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BLOW UPCHEMICAL WEAPONS SITES WITHOUT

CREATING A NIGHTMARE, WITHOUTCREATING THE VERY THING YOU'RE

TRYING TO AVOID.

>> Stephen: BUT IT'S SENDING AMESSAGE.

>> YOU CAN'T SEND A MISSILE TOBLOW SARIN GAS HALFWAY ACROSS

THE COUNTRY.

YOU HAVE TO SECURE THEM.

>> Stephen: YOU HAVE TO SEND AMESSAGE.

>> WE SENT IT T MESSAGE, IT WASRECEIVED IN DAMASCUS, THEY GAVE

UP.

I THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE THAT!

ASSAD SURRENDERED.

>> Stephen: BUT YOU'RE TRYING --HERE'S WHAT I DON'T GET.

YOU WANT TO BE A UNITED STATESCITIZEN, TRUE?

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> Stephen: YOU WANT TO BE AUNITED STATES CITIZEN.

OKAY, ALL RIGHT, YOU HAVE TOUNDERSTAND THERE'S SUCH A THING

AS AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM, ALLRIGHT?

THE RULES DON'T APPLY TO US.

>> (LAUGHS)>> Stephen: WE GET TO DO WHAT WE

WANT.

EVERYBODY SHOULD SAY "HEY,THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE AMERICA DID

IT."

(LAUGHTER)>> WHY NOT USE THE RULES TO GET

WHAT WE WANT DONE WITHOUT HAVINGTO OURSELVES ACTUALLY HAVING TO

DO IT?

>> Stephen: AND USE THE U.N.

RESOLUTION?

>> THE U.N. IS A USEFULINSTITUTION TO COVER AND TO

EXECUTE GREAT POWER DESIGNS.

>> Stephen: WHAT GREAT POWER?

WHAT WAR HAVE THEY EVERPREVENTD?

>> WELL, WE MAY HAVE JUSTPREVENTED THIS ONE AND I ALE

TELL YOU WHY.

>> Stephen: BUT WE DON'T KNOWBECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

>> WE DON'T KNOW YET.

>> Stephen: YOU CAN'T PROVE ANEGATIVE.

>> WHAT WE HAVE PREVENTD IS ANYMAJOR WAR BETWEEN GREAT POWERS.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE IF WE WANTEDTO GO TO WAR WITH RUSSIA OR

CHINA THEY WOULD VETO IT ANDTHEN WE'D HAVE TO STOP.

(LAUGHTER)YOU'RE NOT WRONG.

THAT'S WHY WE -- WE TRY --(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: HOW DO YOU BECOME ASUPERPOWER IF IT DOESN'T

EXERCISE SUPERPOWERS?

THAT'S LIKE SAYING "I'MFANTASTIC DANCER I JUST DON'T

WANT TO GET UP RIGHT NOW."

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)I TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL JUST CUT

IT OUT.

GO AHEAD.

(LAUGHTER)ANDREW SULLIVAN, THE DISH

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