Terror, a New One - Lawrence Wright

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Lawrence Wright explains what it takes to be the leader of Al Qaeda and thinks there's no benefit to showing the Bin Laden photos. (4:07)

(APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: OF COURSE NO ONE

CAN REALLY SAY WHAT THE

FUTURE HOLDS FOR AL QAEDA.

HERE TO TELL ME WHAT THE

FUTURE HOLDS FOR AL QAEDA IS

NEW YORKER WRITER AND THE

AUTHOR OF THE LOOMING TOWER,

AL QAEDA AND THE ROAD TO

9/11, PLEASE WELCOME

LAWRENCE WRIGHT, LAWRENCE,

THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING

ON.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

OKAY LAWRENCE, WHAT WITHER

NOW AL QAEDA.

THEY'VE LOST THEIR FRONTMAN.

IS THIS LIKE VAN HALL EN?

HAVE WE KILLED DAVID LEE

ROTH?

IS THERE A SAMMY HAGAR

WAITING IN THE WINGS?

OR MORE OF A GARY SHARRON

TYPE?

>> IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH

FOR THEM.

THEY ARE FACING AN

EXISTENTIAL MOMENT BECAUSE

THEY'VE BEEN DRIFTING FOR

YEARS.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO

PULL OFF A BIGGER TRACK LIKE,

THEY'VE BEEN WANTING TO EVER

SINCE 9/11.

IF THEY CAN'T PULL OFF

SOMETHING IN THE NEXT YEAR,

THEY'RE GOING TO SEEM REALLY

IRRELEVANT.

>> Stephen: SO IT'S

MAKE-OR-BREAK FOR THOSE GUYS

RIGHT NOW.

>> EXACTLY.

>> Stephen: THERE IS NO

TOMORROW.

>> THERE ARE OTHER TEAMS OUT

THERE THAT ARE CONTENDING

FOR THE CROWN.

>> Stephen: WHO ARE THE

OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE?

WHO SHOULD I BE-- BECAUSE AS

I SAID T TER FEWS ME TO NOT

BE SCARED.

WHO SHOULD I BE SCARED OF

NEXT?

>> BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KEEP

OUR GUARD UP.

>> I DO THINK YOU'RE RIGHT

TO PUT YOUR FINGER ON ANWAR

AL-AWLAKI.

WHEN THE FIRST WAVE OF AL

QAEDA HIJACKERS CAME TO

AMERICA IN JANUARY OF 2000,

THEY WENT TO SAN DIEGO WHERE

HE WAS THE IMAM.

AND THEN THEY FOLLOWED HIM

ALL ACROSS AMERICA.

HE WENT TO BECOME THE

CHAPLIN AT GEORGE WASHINGTON

UNIVERSITY.

THEY FOLLOWED HIM.

SO HE HAS BEEN CONNECTED

WITH THIS GROUP FROM THE

VERY BEGINNING.

>> Stephen: IS THERE, WHAT

DOES IT TAKE TO BE THE

LEADER OF AL QAEDA?

I MEAN DO YOU NEED PEOPLE

SKILLS.

IS IT MORE ADMINISTRATIVE.

DO YOU HAVE TO DO A

SPREADSHEET.

WHAT IS IT THAT YOU THINK

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR.

>> THEY NEED AN INSPIRATIONAL

FIGURE WHO CAN RAISE MONEY

RZ.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

>> THAT IS WHAT BIN LADEN

DID.

HE BROUGHT MONEY TO THE

TABLE.

THAT'S THE REASON PEOPLE

GRAVITATED AROUND HIM.

ESPECIALLY, THE NUMBER TWO

GUY, HE HAD HIS OWN

TERRORIST GROUP BUT THEY

SPOTTED THIS YOUNG RICH

SAUDI AND THEY DECIDED TO

ORGANIZE AROUND HIM.

>> Stephen: NOW DO YOU THINK

THERE IS ANY BENEFIT TO

SHOWING THE PHOTOGRAPH OF

BIN LADEN OTHER THAN MAKING

SURE THIS YEAR'S FAVORITE

HALLOWEEN COSTUME IS

ACCURATE?

(LAUGHTER)

>> I'M SURE THERE WILL BE A

LOT OF IMPROVISATION ON THAT

FRONT.

I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK THAT, I UNDERSTAND

THE PRESIDENT'S RELUCTANCE

TO DO THAT.

AND IT WILL STIR UP A LOT OF

ANGRY FEELINGS THAT WE DON'T

NEED ANY MORE OF THAT RIGHT

NOW.

I THINK THIS IS A TIME TO

CALM TENSIONS.

>> Stephen: YOU THINK THAT

THE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE

EAST WOULD TO THE LIKE IT.

>> I'M PRETTY SURE OF IT.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

WHERE IS THE NEW CENTER FOR

THE WAR ON TERROR?

IS IT YEMEN?

>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S-- THE

CENTER OF GRAVITY IS MOVING

TO YEMEN.

AND-- .

>> Stephen: WILL WE ENJOY

INVADING THERE?

>> IT'S A SMALLER COUNTRY.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Stephen: WHEN BIN LADEN

WAS IN AFGHANISTAN WE

INVADED IRAQ.

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: NOW THAT WE KNOW

HE WAS IN PAKISTAN, SHOULD

WE INNOVATE IRAQ AGAIN?

-- INVADE IRAQ AGAIN?

>> YOU DON'T THINK THEY

LEARNED THEIR LESSON.

COULD BE.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TRY

TO INVADE FEWER COUNTRIES

RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE'RE REALLY

OVEREXTENDED.

AND THIS IS A GOOD MOMENT

WITH BIN LADEN BEING DEAD,

TO BEGIN TO TRY TO REASSESS

OUR RELATIONSHIP IN THAT

PART OF THE WORLD AND MAYBE

BEGIN TO REDUCE SOME OF OUR

FORCES.

>> Stephen: IS THERE A

CHANCE OF THE WAR ON TERROR

IS OVER?

>> YOU KNOW, TERRORISM IS

NEVER GOING TO END.

BUT IT IS-- .

>> Stephen: SO IT'S NOT.

>> A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS

ARE GOING TO BE IMLATING AL

QAEDA'S MODEL IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE'LL HAVE THIS PROBLEM

PROBABLY FOREVER NOW.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU FOR

THAT CHEERFUL THOUGHT.

(LAUGHTER)

THANK YOU SO MUCH.