Scott Douglas

  • Aired:  01/16/12
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Activist Scott Douglas advocates the overturn of Alabama's HB 56 anti-immigrant law and calls for a single, fair immigration law across the U.S. (5:58)

>> Stephen: THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY, MY

GUEST TONIGHT IS A COMMUNITY

ORGANIZER WHO BELIEVES

ANTI-IMMIGRATION IS THE

CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE OF OUR

TIME.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

MARTIN LUTHER KING SAID I

HAVE A DREAM, NOT I WANT A

TACO.

PLEASE WELCOME SCOTT

DOUGLAS.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

HEY, MR. DOUGLAS.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING

ON.

>> GREAT.

>> Stephen: LET'S TELL THE

PEOPLE A LITTLE ABOUT

YOURSELF RIGHT NOW.

YOU ARE THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR OF THE GREATER

BIRMINGHAM MINISTRY'S IN

ALABAMA BIRMINGHAM ALABAMA,

OKAY.

WHICH IS ADVOCATING OVERTURN

OF HB 56.

WHAT IS THIS BILL?

>> HB 56 IS ALABAMA'S NEW

ANTI-IMMIGRANT LAW THAT

BURDENS FAMILIES, BREAKS UP

FAMILIES, FORCES THE SPLIT

UP OF FAMILIES, BURDENS

TAXPAYERS AND MAKES LAW

ENFORCEMENT TAKE ON THE

EXTRA JOB OF CHECKING OUT

PEOPLE AT TRAFFIC STOPS.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

I MEAN YOU SAY BURDENS,

SPLITS, WHAT IT DOES IS, IS

THAT IT REMOVES ILLEGAL

IMMIGRANTS FROM YOUR STATE.

IT IS TOUGH ON CRIME S IT

NOT?

>> THIS LAW-- .

>> Stephen: IS IT A CRIME TO

BE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT?

>> IT IS-- .

>> Stephen: IS IT A CRIME.

>> IF A FEDERAL CRIME-- NOT

A STATE CRIME.

>> Stephen: OH SO, WE DON'T

WANT THE FEDS MARCHING INTO

ALABAMA.

THEY DID THAT 150 YEARS AGO,

IT DIDN'T WORK OUT TOO WELL.

>> THE PART IS THAT ALABAMA

SHOULD NOT BE JOINING ONE OF

THOSE STATES THAT HAS ITS

OWN STATE IMMIGRANT LAW.

WE DON'T NEED 50 IMMIGRANT

LAWS ACROSS THE UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA.

WE NEED ONE COMPREHENSIVE

LAW THAT IS JUST AND FAIR

FOR EVERYONE.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: WE TALKED ABOUT

THIS LAW ON THE SHOW A

COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

WHAT IT IS, IT SAYS THAT, AN

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CANNOT BE

ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT

WITH.

SO YOU CAN'T RENT THEM.

YOU CAN'T TUSH ON THEIR

WATER IN SOME CASES.

YOU CAN'T GIVE THEM A PHONE.

THEY CAN'T GET A LICENCE.

AND POLICE ARE COMPELLED ON,

IF THEY SUSPECT SOMEONE IS

AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT TO PULL

THEM OVER AND ASK FOR I.D.,

CORRECT?

>> POLICE ARE BEING DIVERTED

FROM DOING JOBS OF

PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITIES

FROM BURGLARIES, SERIOUS

CRIMES, DIVERTED TO POLICING

IMMIGRATION, WITH WHICH IS

NOT IN THEIR PURVIEW AT ALL.

>> Stephen: LET ME ASK YOU

SOMETHING.

THIS IS DRIVEN, THE ILLEGAL

IMMIGRANT HISPANIC FARM

WORKERS OUT OF YOUR STATE,

OKAY.

AND I KNOW YOU HAVE GOT

CROPS ROTTING ON THE VINE AS

A RESULT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> Stephen: I DON'T SEE

RACE.

ARE YOU HISPANIC.

>> I AM A PROUD

AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND A PROUD

ALABAMAIAN AND PROUD UNITED

STATES CITIZEN.

>> Stephen: SO WHY AS

AFRICAN-AMERICANS WOULD YOU

BE FIGHTING FOR THE LATINOS?

BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FIGHT

FOR YOU GUYS.

>> THIS IS MY-- THIS IS

MARTIN LUTHER KING'S

BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION.

>> Stephen: I'M FAMILIAR.

>> AND HE FAMOUSLY SAID THAT

INJUSTICE ANYWHERE WILL

AFFECT JUSTICE EVERYWHERE

AND HB 56 IS A THREAT TO ME

AND ALL AMERICANS.

>> Stephen: LISTEN.

I HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THIS

BILL, OKAY.

BECAUSE IF THE HISPANIC

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT

THERE TO PICK OUR CROPS, I

DON'T GET MY CAESAR SALAD.

OKAY.

YOU SEEM LIKE YOU WANT ME TO

BE AGAINST IT BECAUSE I WANT

JUSTICE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE

NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS.

YOU CAN'T MAKE ME WANT TO

GIVE THEM RIGHTS.

>> THAT'S WHAT MARTIN LUTHER

KING SAID.

THERE'S NO DOCUMENT WRITTEN

BY A HUMAN HAND SHOULD BE

USED TO THE HUMANITY OF ANY

MAN.

AND THIS-- .

>> Stephen: ALL RIGHT, IF

YOU WANT TO GO, YOU WANT TO

GO OLD SCHOOL ON ME HERE,

OKAY, YOU HAVE SAID I WANT

TO MAKE SURE I GET THIS

WRITE, YOU HAVE SAID THAT

HISPANICS ARE THE NEW NEGRO.

>> YES, BASED ON TREATMENT,

JUST LIKE THE CRIMINAL CROWE

LAWS ARE ARBITRARY LAWS

CAPRICIOUS GIVE ANYBODY THE

POWER OVER YOU TO ABUSE YOU,

TO HURT YOU, TO HONOR YOU.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

BUT ARE THINGS SO GOOD FOR

AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN ALABAMA

THAT THEY'RE NOT IN ANY WAY

THE OLD NEGRO?

I MEAN ARE THINGS SO GOOD

FOR BLACK PEOPLE IN ALABAMA

THAT YOU CAN TURN YOUR FOCUS

TO LATINOS?

>> AFRICAN-AMERICANS CAN

NEVER FORGET HOW HARD WE TO

GAIN THE RIGHTS WE NOW HAVE

AND HOW FAR WE HAVE TO TOIL,

TO GAIN EVEN MORE.

WE KNOW THE PATH WE HAD TO

TROT AND WE ARE TRYING TO BE

IN SOLIDARITY WITH THESE

PEOPLE AS THEY FACE THIS

STAGE OF THIS ABUSE.

>>

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: IT JUST SEEMS SO

MANY THINGS, LIKE JAZZ AND

ROCK 'N' ROLL WERE TAKEN

FROM BLACK PEOPLE.

IT'S JUST A SHAME THAT

NEGROS GET TAKEN FROM THEM

TOO.

HOLD ON TO SOME OF THE

HERITAGE.

NOW BACK IN THE DAY

BIRMINGHAM, THE POLICE

BROUGHT OUT THE DOGS AND THE

HOSES ON THE

AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY

THERE.

IF THESE HISPANIC ILLEGAL

IMMIGRANTS ACTUALLY HAD

MASSIVE MARCHES LIKE THE ONE

THAT DR. KING HAD IN ALABAMA

F THEY HAD A LEADER WHO

STOOD UP AGAINST THEM DO YOU

THINK THINGS WILL GET ROUGH

FOR THEM?

>> YES.

>> Stephen: DO YOU THINK THE

POLICE WOULD GO AFTER THEM

LIKE ROUND THEM UP AND LIKE

PEPPER SPRAY THEM, NOT THAT

PEPPER SPRAY WOULD HAVE ANY

EFFECT.

I THINK THAT IS DELICIOUS TO

THOSE GUYS.

NO, I AM-- SERIOUSLY,

THEY'RE RAISED ON THAT

STUFF.

THEY GO RIGHT UP THE STREAM.

DOCTOR, STHOOUCH FOR JOINS

US.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> Stephen: FROM THE GREATER

BIRMINGHAM MINISTRIES, SCOTT

DOUGLAS.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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