Macklemore & Ryan Lewis

  • Aired:  05/01/13
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The independent artists give advice to major music labels and talk about hip-hop's homophobic and misogynistic past. (5:20)

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

>> WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS THE HIP HOP

DUO BEHIND THE SIT SONG THRIFT

SHOP WHICH IS THE SAME PLACE...

PLEASE WELCOME McLEMORE AND

RYAN LEWIS.

THANK YOU.

>> HOW ARE YOU DOING.

Stephen: RYAN, THANKS FOR

COMING, MAN.

VERY EXCITED HERE.

VERY EXCITED.

McLEMORE, CAN I CALL YOU BEN?

>> SURE.

tephen: BEN HAGGERTY, RYAN

LEWIS.

VERY FORMAL HERE.

THANK YOU FOR WEARING YOUR

FORMAL T-SHIRT.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

Stephen: GUYS, WHILE I'M A

FAN, I'VE GOT A BEEF WITH YOU.

>> LAY IT OUT.

Stephen: YOU RELEASED YOUR

ALBUM INDEPENDENTLY, OKAY.

PRODUCED YOURSELF.

RELEASED IT INDEPENDENTLY.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT DOES TO

CORPORATIONS WHEN THEY DO NOT

GET THE MAJORITY OF THE CASH

FROM SALES?

IT IS SHOW BIZ, OKAY.

NOT SHOW "HAVE FUN AND MAKE

MUSIC."

WHY DID YOU DO THAT?

>> FOR THOSE EXACT REASONS.

IT'S IN OUR CONTROL.

IT'S IN OUR CREATIVE DIRECTION.

WE GET TO PICK WHAT WE DO.

WE GET TO PICK WHAT WE MAKE.

WE GET TO MARKET IT HOW WE WANT

TO MARKET IT.

IT'S OUR BRAND.

WE GET MORE MONEY AT THE END OF

THE DAY.

>> Stephen: YOU DON'T HAVE TO

SELL OUT.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

OKAY.

SO IT'S ABOUT NOT SELLING OUT.

BUT YOU DID HIRE PART OF THE

WARNER GROUP TO GET YOU GUYS ON

THE RADIO, RIGHT?

>> WE DID.

Stephen: YOU DIDN'T SELL IT.

YOU RENTED IT OUT.

>> RENTED.

Stephen: IS THAT A NEW MODEL?

YOU KNOW WHAT?

I THINK THAT'S A MODEL THAT HAS

REALLY NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.

AND I THINK IT IS A TESTAMENT TO

THE DIRECTION THAT MAJOR LABELS

SHOULD BE GOING WHICH IS, YOU

KNOW, IF AURA COMPLETELY

INDEPENDENT ARTIST, TO BE ABLE

TO TAKE A CRACK AT RADIO AND NOT

BE SIGNING A DEAL, NOT BE

SIGNING A 360 DEAL.

AND HAVE ACCESS TO RADIO.

IF YOU HAVE A SONG THAT YOU

THINK WORKS FOR IT.

FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME ON NO

CONTRACT AND REALLY THAT'S ALL

THAT LABELS HAVE LEFT IS A

CONNECTION TO RADIO.

>> Stephen: THEY'RE CLICKING ON

THE YOU-TUBE.

THAT'S LIKE 250 MILLION HITS ON

THRIFT SHOP.

IS EVERY KID NOW INSTEAD OF THE

TOP 40, IS EVER KID CLICKING

THEIR OWN RYAN SEACREST MAKING

THEIR OWN TOP 40 LIKE CASEY

CASSOM.

>> I HAVE NO IDEA WHO CASEY

CASSOM IS.

>> Stephen: HE'S FOR YOUNG GUYS

LIKE ME.

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHO THAT WAS.

LET'S TALK TURKEY HERE.

CAN WE TALK TURKEY?

McLEMORE.

McLEMORE.

RYAN LEWIS.

DID YOU EVER GET PISSED OFF?

THIS GUY IS IN THE SPOTLIGHT.

NOW IS YOUR TIME TO SHINE.

DOES THAT EVER PISS YOU OFF?

>> I THINK THAT THERE WAS A

PERIOD, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU GO

IN AND OUT OF, OF COURSE,

WANTING TO BE THE LEAD SINGER

YOURSELF.

AT THIS POINT NOW THAT I HAVE A

VERY GOOD SCOPE TO WHAT BEING A

CELEBBITY IS, I THINK I'M HAPPY

BEING IN THE BACKGROUND.

>> Stephen: THAT'S TOUGH.

IT MAKES FOR AATE LOW MORE

SUNGLASSES AND... FOR A LOT MORE

SUNGLASSES AND BALL CAPS AND

FAKE WIGS.

>> Stephen: I KNOW THE FEELING.

I'LL BE LIKE AT THE PLANT STORE

GETTING SOME MULCH.

ONE OF THE YOUNG GUYS WILL SAY

AREN'T YOU THAT GUY WHO USED TO

WORK FOR JON STEWART?

AND I'M LIKE PLEASE LEAVE ME

ALONE.

( APPLAUSE )

YOU DO SONGS THAT ARE A LITTLE

BIT UNUSUAL FOR HIP HOP LIKE THE

SONG YOU'RE DOING TONIGHT IS IN

FAVOR OR IN SUPPORT OF GAY

MARRIAGE.

>> YES

Stephen: THAT'S NOT...

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Stephen: THAT'S NOT THE MOST

COMMON THING TO BE HIP HOPPING

ABOUT.

MY FRIEND SNOOP, A FRIEND OF THE

SHOW, SAID THAT LIKE

HOMOSEXUALITY AND HIP HOP MAY

NEVER BE ABLE TO GHETTOING.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?

>> WAS HE ON WEED WHEN HE SAID

IT?

>> Stephen: HE WAS ALIVE.

I THINK THAT IN THE LAST YEAR

ALONE, HIP HOP HAS MADE GREAT

STRIDES IN TERMS OF BEING MORE

OPEN MINDED.

IT IS AN ART FORM

STEREOTYPICALLY IN THE PAST THAT

HAS BEEN VERY HOMOPHOBIC, VERY

MASK LYNN DRIVEN CULTURE.

A LOT OF MISS OJ KNEE A LOT OF

HOMOPHOBIA IN THE LAST YEAR OF

PEOPLE'S MINDS HAVE STARTED TO

OPEN UP.

YOU HAVE BARACK OBAMA IN SUPPORT

OF GAY MARRIAGE.

>> Stephen: I'M NOT FAMILIAR

WITH BARACK OBAMA'S RAP WORDS.

BUT I'M SURE IT'S VERY GOOD.

>> BARACK OBAMA, IF YOU LISTEN

FAINTLY, YOU CAN HEAR FAINT RAP

MUSIC COMING FROM THE WHITE

HOUSE ON SUNDAY NIGHTS I'VE

HEARD

>> Stephen: FULL RAP USED TO SAY

THINGS LIKE [BLEEP] POLICE.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO TO THE

POLICE?

RYAN?

>> I'D WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH

THE POLICE.

>> Stephen: WELL, I'LL TELL YOU

WHAT.

WOULD YOU DO A SONG FOR US NOW

THAT YOU'RE ALL SET UP?

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

HERE.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A

PERFORMANCE BY MACLEMORE AND

RYAN LEWIS.

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