Tony Kushner Pt. 2

  • Aired:  11/14/12
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Tony Kushner introduces a clip from "Lincoln" and explains how Barack Obama and Abraham Lincoln are similar. (3:12)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

WE'RE HERE WITH TONY KUSHNER, THE AUTHOR OF THE NEW SCREENPLAY FOR THE MOVIE "LINCOLN."

NOW, TONY, SHOULDN'T THEY JUST MAKE AN OSCAR IN THE SHAPE OF DANIEL DAY-LEWIS AND GIVE IT TO

HIM AT THIS POINT?

(LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN IT AND THEY WANT TO GIVE IT TO HIM.

LET'S WATCH A CLIP.

THIS IS I BELIEVE LINCOLN AND THE TELEGRAPH OFFICE WITH SOME YOUNG MEN DESCRIBING HIS

DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.

>> RIGHT, HE'S JUST MADE A DECISION TO ASK GRANT TO PUT SOME CONFEDERATE COMMISSIONERS

ON ICE AS WE'RE BRINGING IT INTO WASHINGTON BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO STAY OUT OF THE WAY WHILE HE

GETS THE VOTE FOR THE AMENDMENT ORGANIZED

>> EUCLID'S FIRST COMMON NOTION IS THIS.

THINGS WHICH ARE EQUAL TO THE SAME THING ARE EQUAL TO EACH OTHER.

THAT'S A RULE OF MATHEMATICAL REASONING.

IT'S TRUE BECAUSE IT WORKS.

HAS DONE AND ALWAYS WILL DO.

IN HIS BOOK EUCLID SAID THIS IS SELF-EVIDENT.

YOU SEE, THERE IT IS.

EVEN IN THAT 2000-YEAR-OLD BOOK OF MECHANICAL LAW IT IS A SELF-EVIDENT TRUTH THAT THINGS

WHICH ARE EQUAL TO THE SAME THING ARE EQUAL TO EACH OTHER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: THAT'S LINCOLN.

(APPLAUSE) THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR LINCOLN FROM NOW ON.

>> I THINK SO.

HENRY FONDA WAS REALLY, REALLY GREAT.

72 YEARS AGO, 79 YEARS AGO.

AND I THINK DANIEL IS NOW THE DEFINITIVE.

>> Stephen: NAILED IT, HE NAILED IT.

ONE THING THAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS MOVIE IS THAT THAT'S A GREAT PORTRAIT OF LINCOLN AND

IT'S A HEROIC PORTRAIT OF LINCOLN AND, YOU KNOW, SPOILER ALERT, IT ENDS SADLY.

(LAUGHTER) BUT THIS HEROIC PORTRAIT WORRIES ME BECAUSE PEOPLE OFTEN COMPARE OBAMA TO LINCOLN.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO?

>> OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen: WHAT?

WHAT?

THEY'RE BOTH FROM ILLINOIS?

WHAT?

>> BOTH FROM ILLINOIS.

>> Stephen: SO WAS CAPONE, GO ON.

(LAUGHTER)

>> I FEEL THAT THE CONNECTION IS OBAMA A PROGRESSIVE CENTRIST, AS LINCOLN WAS.

THEY BOTH BELIEVE IN GOVERNMENT.

>> Stephen: LINCOLN WAS A REPUBLICAN, THOUGH.

LINCOLN WAS A REPUBLICAN.

>> A DIFFERENT KIND OF REPUBLICAN.

>> Stephen: STILL, "R" NEXT TO HIS NAME.

>> THAT'S THE CASE.

>> Stephen: AND I DON'T THINK OBAMA COULD PULL OFF THE LOOK.

IN A STOVE PIPE MAT MAYBE, BUT IF HE HAD THAT BEARD HE'D LOOK SO MUCH LIKE THE RENT IS TOO

DAMN HIGH GUY.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) TONY, THANK YOU SO FOR JOINING ME.

TONY KUSHNER.

THE MOVIE IS "LINCOLN." GO SEE IT!

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

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