Bill Moyers

  • Aired:  01/10/12
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Bill Moyers believes that capitalism is out of control and there can be no people's democracy as long as corporations are considered people. (6:02)

EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CK,

FOLKS, MY GUEST TONIGHT HAS A

NEW INTERVIEW SHOW CALLED

"MOYERS AND COMPANY."

I HOPE THAT MEANS HE'S

INTERVIEWING CORPORATIONS.

PLEASE WELCOME BILL MOYERS.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

MR. MOYERS, THANKS SO MUCH FOR

COMING ON.

I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO MEET YOU.

>> SAME HERE.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

WELL, I HAVE ENJOYED YOUR WORK

EVER SINCE THE JOSEPH CAMPBELL

INTERVIEWS YOU DID.

>> 25 YEARS AGO.

>> Stephen: 25 YEARS AGO.

THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT THEY WAS

THE HERO WITH 1,000 FACES.

NOW, SIR, WE'VE GOT THE

PLEASANTRIES OUT OF THE WAY.

IT'S HAMMER TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

>> HAMMER AWAY.

>> Stephen: YOU ARE OFTEN

CONSIDERED LIKE THE REASONABLE

MAN'S REASONABLE MAN.

[LAUGHTER]

>> SOMEBODY HAS TO DO IT.

>> Stephen: RIGHT.

YOU KEEP A CALM VOICE.

YOU NEVER ATTACK THE GUESTS ON

YOUR SHOWS.

[LAUGHTER]

AND I'M HERE TO CALL BULL

[BLEEPED].

OKAY.

IT'S ALL AN ACT.

YOU SANDBAG AND SHIFT PEOPLE

WITH CALMNESS AND FACTS.

HOW IS THAT ANY BETTER THAN WHAT

I DO?

>> YOU'RE FROM THE SOUTH.

YOU MUST KNOW THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN A HOOT OWL AND A SCROOCH

OWL.

THE HOOT OWL CRASHES INTO THE

HEN HOUSE, KNOCKS THE HEN OFF

THE PERCH, CATCHES IT.

THE SCOOCH OWL COMES IN QUIETLY,

GEMMILY, SNUGGLES UP NEXT TO THE

HEN, STARTS TALKING GENTLY TO

THE HEN.

THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THERE

AIN'T NO HEN.

I PREFER THAT.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

>> Stephen: I WOULD LIKE THE

SEE YOU AND DAN RATHER IN A

FOLKSY-OFF.

I THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO

TAKE HIM.

YOU USED TO HAVE A SHOW CALL

"BILL MOYERS JOURNAL" FIRST IN

THE '70s AND THEN FROM 2007 TO

2010.

THEN YOU HAD "NOW WITH

BILL

Moyers."

YOU WERE A SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO

PRESIDENT JOHNSON, INCLUDING TWO

YEARS AS THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS

SECRETARY.

WHEN YOU WERE PRESS SECRETARY,

DID YOU AT ANY MOMENT WITHHOLD

INFORMATION FROM THE WHITE HOUSE

PEACE CORPSES OR DID ST. MOYERS

ALWAYS GO WITH THE TRUTH?

>> I USED TO HOLD INFORMATION

FROM THE PRESIDENT.

THAT'S MUCH MORE DANGEROUS.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

YOU'RE THE REASON VIETNAM

FAILED.

YOU WOULD JUST TOLD HIM IT WAS A

QUAGMIRE, I'M SURE JOHNSON WOULD

HAVE PULLED HIM OUT.

>> OUR CREDIBILITY WAS IS BAD WE

COULDN'T BELIEVE OUR OWN LEAKS.

[LAUGHTER]

>> Stephen: I LIKE THE OWL ONE

BETTER.

OKAY.

SO NOW YOU HAVE A NEW SHOW

CALLED "MOYERS AND COMPANY."

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: WHAT IS THE NEW

SHOW?

>> IT'S A LOOK AT AMERICA

THROUGH THE EXPERIENCES OF A LOT

OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T MAKE IT ON

MOST TELEVISION SHOWS, FOR

EXAMPLE, "THIS THIS WEEK I HAVE THE

SHERLOCK HOLMES AND DR. WATSON

OF POLITICAL SCIENCE, JACOB

PACKER OF YALE AND PAUL PIERCE

TALKING ABOUT HOW WASHINGTON

SERVED THE RICH IN THE LAST 30

YEARS AND TURNED ITS BACK ON THE

MIDDLE CLASS.

>> Stephen: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

DON'T YOU MEAN THE CREATIVE

CLASS?

YOU MEAN THEY HAVE SERVED THE

JOB CREATORS OF THIS COUNTRY, OR

DON'T YOU BELIEVE THAT WE NEED

CAPITALISM TO CREATE JOBS?

>> ABSOLUTELY DO, BUT CAPITALISM

IS OUT OF CONTROL THANKS IN NO

SMALL PART TO CITIZENS UNITED,

THE SUPREME COURT DECISION THAT

SAID THAT A CORPORATION IS A

PERSON, EVEN THOUGH I DOESN'T

EAT, DRINK, MAKE LOVE, SING,

RAISE CHILDREN OR TAKE CARE OF

AGING PARENTS.

YOU CANNOT HAVE A PEOPLE'S

DEMOCRACY AS LONG AS

CORPORATIONS ARE CONSIDERED

PEOPLE.

THEY'RE JUST PRIVATE

INSTITUTIONS.

>> Stephen: DO YOU

UNDERSTAND... DO YOU

UNDERSTAND...

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

EXCUSE ME.

GIVE ME TIME TO NAIL HIM FIRST.

[LAUGHTER]

YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SOUND

LIKE A RACIST.

THAT SOUTHERN ACCENT IS NOT

HELPING YOU.

OKAY.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOME PEOPLE,

BECAUSE CORPORATIONS HAVE BEEN

PEOPLE SINCE 1886, SANTA CLARA,

SOUTHERN PACIFIC RAILROAD.

AM I GOING TOO FAST FOR YOU,

DAD.

AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOME

PEOPLE JUST AREN'T PEOPLE IN THE

EYES OF BILL MOYERS?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Stephen: OH, YEAH, SURE.

LET ME ASK YOU, DO ANY OF THESE

"NOT PEOPLE" FUND YOUR SHOW,

BILL?

>> ONE OF THEM WHO IS FULL OF

GOOD PEOPLE FUNDS MY SHOW.

MUTUAL OF AMERICA HAS BEEN MY

SOLE CORPORATE FUNDER FOR 25

YEARS.

>> Stephen: YOU'RE BITING THAT

HAND THAT FUNDS YOU.

>> THEY DON'T SEEM TO COMPLAIN.

>> Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUT

WHERE POLITICS IS GOING IN THE

UNITED STATES.

YOU SAY CORPORATIONS HAVE UNDUE

INFLUENCE OVER OUR GOVERNMENT,

TRUE?

>> TRUE.

>> THEY TONE GOVERNMENT.

>> Stephen: THEY DON'T OWN THE

GOVERNMENT.

THEY JUST EXPRESS THEIR OPINION

THROUGH THE SPEECH THAT IS CASH.

[LAUGHTER]

OKAY.

AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF

THE CITIZENS UNITED RULING.

MONEY EQUALS SPEECH.

I'VE GOT SOME GREAT NEWS FOR

CORPORATIONS' RIGHT TO SPEAK

BECAUSE WE JUST GOT THIS IN.

MITT ROMNEY HAS WON THE NEW

HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY.

35.6%.

MITT ROMNEY FAMOUSLY SAID THIS

SUMMER, "CORPORATIONS ARE

PEOPLE," MY FRIEND.

>> A FRIEND OF MINE IN TEXAS

SAID HE WILL BELIEVE

CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE WHEN

TEXAS EXECUTES ONE.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

>> Stephen: SO YOU'RE RACIST

AND BLOOD THIRSTY.

BILL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

JOINING US.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

BILL MOYERS.

"MOYERS AND COMPANY."

CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS ON

PUBLIC TELEVISION.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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