Bernie Sanders

  • Aired:  01/03/12
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Senator Bernie Sanders calls on Americans to support his proposed Saving American Democracy Amendment and help overturn the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision. (6:08)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS THE JUNIOR

SENATOR FROM VERMONT.

WHO WILL BE THE FIRST GUEST I'VE

EVER LURED HERE WITH CHEDDAR.

PLEASE WELCOME SENATOR BERNIE

SANDERS.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

SENATOR SANDERS, THANKS SO MUCH

FOR COMING BACK.

ALL RIGHT, SIR, YOU ARE AN

INDEPENDENT SENATOR FROM THE

GREAT STATE OF VERMONT.

YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK CALLED "THE

SPEECH: AN HISTORIC FILIBUSTER

ON CORPORATE GREED AND THE

DECLINE OF OUR MIDDLE-CLASS."

THIS IS LITERALLY THE TEXT OF

WHAT YOU SAID IN AN EIGHT AND A

HALF HOUR FILIBUSTER.

>> CORRECT.

>> Stephen: ON THE FLOOR OF

CONGRESS.

WHAT WERE YOU TRYING TO STOP

FROM HAPPENING WHEN YOU SHOT OFF

AT THE MOUTH.

(LAUGHTER)

FOR A THIRD OF A DAY.

>> WHAT I WAS TRYING TO STOP WAS

A VERY BAD AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE

PRESIDENT AND THE REPUBLICANS

WHICH EXTENDED THE BUSH TAX

BREAKS FOR THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE

IN THIS COUNTRY.

IN MY VIEW.

>> Stephen: SO YOU'RE THE GUY

WHO CAUSES THE GRIDLOCK IN

CONGRESS.

>> NOT EXACTLY.

>> Stephen: THEY WERE TRYING

TO DEAL DO A DEAL AND YOU SAID

"NO DEALS.

BERNIE SANDERS BELIEVES IN

STASIS."

(LAUGHTER)

>> NO, BERNIE SANDERS BELIEVES

THAT THE MIDDLE-CLASS IS

COLLAPSING.

THAT WORKING FAMILIES NEED A

BREAK.

THAT THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE ARE

DOING PHENOMENALLY WELL AND THAT

IT'S TOTALLY APPROPRIATE THAT

THEY START PAYING THEIR FAIR

SHARE OF TAXES.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: THANK YOU FOR

CHEERING ME AS A WEALTHY PERSON.

SURELY BY WEALTHY YOU MEAN JOB

CREATOR.

>> ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE

LARGEST CORPORATIONS IN THIS

COUNTRY THEY'VE BEEN OUTSOURCING

MILLIONS OF JOBS TO CHINA AND

OTHER COUNTRIES.

>> Stephen: I DIDN'T SAY WHERE

THEY WERE CREATING THE JOBS,

SIR.

>> (LAUGHS).

>> Stephen: YOU WILL ADMIT

THEY ARE JOB CREATORS.

>> UNFORTUNATELY NOT IN AMERICA.

>> Stephen: ONE OF YOUR

BUGABOOS-- IF I CAN USE THAT

WORD ON A FAMILY SHOW-- IS THE

CITIZENS UNITED DECISION.

>> THE ABSURD CITIZENS UNITED

DECISION.

>> Stephen: IN THIS DECISION

IT SAID THAT BECAUSE

CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE WHICH

HAS BEEN SETTLED LAW SINCE SANTA

CLARA V. SOUTHERN PACIFIC

RAILROAD IN 1886, BECAUSE THEY

ARE PERSONS THEY HAVE FREE

SPEECH AND SINCE MONEY EQUALS

SPEECH THEY CAN USE UNLIMITED

MONEY IN POLITICAL SPEECH.

WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT?

>> Stephen: .

>> BETWEEN YOU AND ME, CORPSES

ARE NOT PEOPLE.

>> Stephen: YES, THEY ARE.

>> EXXONMOBIL, BANK OF AMERICA,

THEY ARE NOT THE KIND OF GUY YOU

SIT DOWN AND HAVE A BEER WITH.

THEY DON'T VOTE.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO

SPEND UNLIMITED HUNDREDS OF

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS COLLECTIVELY

ON POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS WITHOUT

DISCLOSURE.

THIS IS A AN ATTACK ON WHAT

AMERICAN DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE

ABOUT.

>> YOU WANT CORPORATIONS TO RIDE

ON THE BACK OF THE BUS EVEN IF

IT'S A BUS COMPANY!

(LAUGHTER)

>> NO.

CORPORATIONS...

>> Stephen: YOU ARE CURTAILING

THE SPEECH.

>> THEY CAN HAVE ALL THE SPEECH

THEY WANT BUT THEY CAN NOT BE

ALLOWED TO BUY ELECTIONS AND

THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT CITIZENS

UNITED IS ABOUT.

>> Stephen: I WORK FOR VIACOM.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: ALL RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: THAT'S A BIG

CORPORATION.

I GET TO HAVE POLITICAL SPEECH

ON MY SHOW.

>> YOU ARE A PERSON, VIACOM IS

NOT A PERSON.

>> Stephen: BUT VIACOM PAYS ME

TO SAY THESE THINGS!

>> (LAUGHS).

>> Stephen: IF VIACOM PAYS ME

TO SAY SOMETHING I WILL SAY IT

ON MY SHOW, OKAY?

WHAT IS TO KEEP... WHY CAN'T

VIACOM DO THAT AS A HUGE

CORPORATION BUT MONSANTO CAN'T?

>> BECAUSE CORPORATIONS ARE

INSTRUMENTS OF GOVERNMENT.

GOVERNMENT IS CONTROLLED BY THE

PEOPLE.

THE PEOPLE ELECT THEIR

GOVERNMENT.

>> Stephen: SO THE GOVERNMENT

CAN TELL VIACOM THEY CAN NOT

BROADCAST EDITORIALS?

>> NO...

>> Stephen: YOUR LITTLE BILL

SAID CORPORATIONS COULD NOT USE

UNLIMITED MONEY FOR SPEECH.

CORPORATIONS LIKE VIACOM THAT

ARE NEWS CORPORATIONS COULD NOT

HAVE POLITICAL SPEECH.

CHECK AND MATE, SIR.

WOW.

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

WHAT I THINK THAT IF AMERICAN

DEMOCRACY HAS S GOING TO SURVIVE

THEY CAN NOT HAVE A HANDFUL OF

LARGE ENTITIES SPENDING HUNDREDS

OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ELECTING

THE CANDIDATES WHO WILL

REPRESENT THEIR INTEREST.

WE NEED A CONSTITUTIONAL

AMENDMENT WHICH MAKES IT VERY

CLEAR.

CORPSES ARE NOT PEOPLE, THEY DO

NOT HAVE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION

IN TERMS OF BUYING ELECTIONS

AND, IN FACT, LEGISLATURES AND

THE CONGRESS DO HAVE THE RIGHT

TO REGULATE CAMPAIGN FINANCE.

>> Stephen: YOU INTRODUCED

SUCH AN AMENDMENT ON DECEMBER 8

CALLED THE SAVING AMERICAN

DEMOCRACY ACT OR THE SAD ACT.

(LAUGHTER)

CITIZENS UNITED IS A VERY, VERY

SAD DECISION.

ONE OF THE WORST SUPREME COURT

DECISIONS EVER MADE.

>> Stephen: IF SOMEONE WANTS

TO SUPPORT YOUR CALL FOR A

CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AGAINST

CITIZENS UNITED IS THERE A PLACE

THEY CAN GO.

>> WE HAVE A WEB SITE, WE HAVE

120,000 PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY

SIGNED THE PETITION.

WE WOULD LIKE MORE ON THE THE

SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THIS

DISASTROUS DECISION.

THERE'S GOING TO BE

DEMONSTRATIONS ALL ACROSS THE

COUNTRY.

>> Stephen: IT HAS TO BE

PASSED THROUGH BOTH HOUSES OF

CONGRESS AND THEN RATIFIED BY

TWO-THIRDS OF THE STATES?

SO BY MAY?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen: SENATOR SANDERS,

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING

ME.

SENATOR BERNARD SANDERS, THE

BOOK IS "THE SPEECH."

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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