David Sassoon

  • Aired:  05/20/13
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Environmental journalist David Sassoon discusses dilbit spills, climate change and his online publication, InsideClimate News. (4:32)

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A PULITZER

PRIZE-WINNING ENVIRONMENTAL

JOURNALIST.

TO PICK HIM UP TONIGHT I SENT A

FLAMING LIMOSINE.

PLEASE WELCOME DAVID SASSOON.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]

HEY, MR. SASSOON, GOOD TO SEE

YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING ON.

YOU ARE THE FOUNDER AND

PUBLISHER OF SOMETHING CALLED

INSIDE CLIMATE NEWS.

THREE OF YOUR REPORTERS WON THE

PULITZER PRIZE THIS YEAR.

THOSE STORIES HAVE BEEN

COLLECTED INTO AN E-BOOK CALLED

"INSIDE THE BIGGEST OIL SPIFF

YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF."

>> THAT'S CORRECT

Stephen: FIRST OF ALL, WHAT

IS INSIDE CLIMATE NEWS?

>> INSIDE CLIMATE NEWS IS A FACE

OF THE NEW JOURNALISM.

WE ARE AN ON-LINE PUBLICATION.

WE COVER ENERGY AND CLIMATE NEWS

AND FILL THE GAPS THAT

MAINSTREAM JOURNALISM IS LEAVING

UNCOVERED

>> Stephen: YOU'RE THE FACE OF

THE NEW JOURNALISM OUT THERE.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE A SCANDAL

BOOTH?

>> WE DON'T

Stephen: EVERYONE IS GOING TO

DO THAT.

FROM NOW ON, EVERYONE WILL HAVE

A SCANDAL BOOTH.

WHY ARE YOU COVERING

ENVIRONMENTAL STORIES?

BECAUSE A LOT OF NEWS

ORGANIZATIONS ARE CLOSING THEIR

ENVIRONMENTAL DESKS.

"NEW YORK TIMES" CLOSED THEIR

ENVIRONMENTAL DESK LAST YEAR.

THAT'S ALL THE NEWS THAT IS IS

FIT TO PRINT.

DOESN'T THAT PROVE THAT YOUR

ENVIRONMENTAL NEWS IS NOT FIT TO

PRINT?

>> NO.

Stephen: OR BLOG OR WHATEVER

YOU KIDS CALL IT.

>> THEY MADE AN ERROR IN CLOSING

DOWN THEIR ENVIRONMENT DESK AND

GETTING RID OF THEIR TWO

ENVIRONMENT EDITORS

>> Stephen: YOU'RE MORE LEFTY

THAN THE "NEW YORK TIMES."

THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO

ME.

>> NOT AT ALL

Stephen: YES YOU ARE.

THE ENVIRONMENT WRAPS

EVERYBODY TOGETHER IN ONE

>> Stephen: IT MAY, BUT TALKING

ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT IS LEFTY.

>> NO, NOT AT ALL

Stephen: IT IS TOTALLY LEFT.

THE FAR RIGHT FRINGE TALKS ABOUT

CLIMATE INCESSANTLY.

>> Stephen: WHY?

BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SAY IT'S

NOT HAPPENING

>> Stephen: IT'S NOT THOUGH.

IT IS

Stephen: THE CLIMATE ISN'T

HAPPENING.

WE'RE IN THE CLIMATE.

IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

SEE THIS AIR.

SEE THIS STUFF BETWEEN US.

THAT'S CLIMATE.

NOTHING HAPPENING.

>> RIGHT

Stephen: THAT'S THE

ENVIRONMENT.

THIS IS OUR ENVIRONMENT.

CAN'T SEE IT.

>> WE IN THE BUSINESS DON'T SAY

CLIMATE CHANGE.

WE JUST SAY CLIMATE.

I MEANT TO SAY CLIMATE CHANGE IS

HAPPENING

>> Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUT

PIPELINE SECURITY.

YOU GUYS WON THIS THING BECAUSE

OF SOMETHING CALLED THE DILBIT

DISASTER.

IT HAPPENED IN KALAMAZOO

MICHIGAN.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

ONE MILLION GALLONS OF

DILUTEDDED BUY DUE MEAN THAT

COMES FROM THE TAR SANDS OF

ALBERTA.

IT STARTS OUT ALMOST MIKE PEANUT

BUTTER.

THEY DILUTE IT

>> Stephen: WITH WHAT?

JELLY?

>> THAT'S GOOD.

IT MIGHT BE BETTER.

>> Stephen: THIS IS STUFF THAT'S

STILL IN ARKANSAS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

IN ARKANSAS TOO.

>> Stephen: I HEARD ABOUT THE

ARKANSAS STORY A LOT.

HOW COME I DIDN'T HEAR MORE

ABOUT THIS KALAMAZOO?

>> BECAUSE IT HAPPENED RIGHT

AFTER THE BIG B.P. OIL SPILL IN

THE GULF.

NOBODY WAS PAYING ATTENTION.

EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE

CLEANED UP IN A HURRY.

GUESS WHAT.

IT'S NOT CLEANED UP YET.

THREE YEARS LATER.

THE REASON IS THE PEANUT BUTTER

AND THE DILUTED STUFF, THEY MAKE

IT FLOW THROUGH PIPELINES WITH,

OKAY, WHEN THE PIPELINE

RUPTURED, THE DILUTED STUFF

EVAPORATED AND THE PEANUT BUTTER

SANK TO THE BOTTOM OF THE RIVER

>> Stephen: SO IT'S GONE.

NO.

Stephen: I CAN'T SEE IT.

I CAN'T SEE IT.

OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND.

YOU'VE HEARD OF THAT.

>> YOU CAN SWIM IN IT

Stephen: I DON'T SWIM IN

KALAMAZOO.

>> YOU CAN EAT THE FISH THAT

COMES OUT OF IT

>> Stephen: DON'T EAT FISH IN

KALAMAZOO.

>> IT'S A PROBLEM

Stephen: I'M SURE IT'S A

PROBLEM BUT WHY DO WE HAVE TO

TALK ABOUT IT?

IF WE IGNORE THE ENVIRONMENT

WON'T IT JUST GO AWAY?

>> NO, IT WILL HIT YOU UP SIDE

THE HEAD

>> Stephen: GOOD LUCK BEING THE

NEW VOICE OF JOURNALISM FOR THE

WORLD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DAVID SASSOON.

INSIDE CLIMATE NEWS DOT-ORG.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.