Judy Woodruff & Gwen Ifill

  • Aired:  10/23/13
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Judy Woodruff and Gwen Ifill discuss anchoring the PBS NewsHour, the importance of in-depth reporting and the extent to which they are beholden to Big Donator. (6:00)

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

MY GUESTS TONIGHT ARE THE FIRSTFEMALE ANCHOR TEAM IN NATIONAL

TELEVISION NEWS.

I'D LOVE TO MEET THE MAN WHOHIRED THEM.

PLEASE WELCOME JUDY WOODRUFF ANDGWEN IFILL!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)HEY, JUDY, GOOD TO SEE YOU

AGAIN!

GEP, ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE YOUGUYS BACK.

OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY KNOWS WHOYOU GUYS ARE.

YOU'RE THE FIRST FEMALE TEAMANCHORING THE NEWS.

WHAT DID YOU DO WITH JIMLEHRER'S BODY?

(LAUGHTER)WHY -- WHAT DID HE DO TO DESERVE

TO BE SHUNTED ASIDE BY YOU TWOPUSHY BROADS.

>> WE CAN TELL YOU, STEPHEN,THEN WE'D HAVE TO KILL YOU.

>> Stephen: THE PBS NEWSHOUR ISAN HOUR.

DO WE NEED AN HOUR OF NEWS EVERYNIGHT?

(LAUGHTER)THE GUYS OVER ON THE NETWORKS

ARE DOING IT-- AND THE GIRLS,AND DIANE SAWYER-- THEY'RE DOING

IN THE A HALF HOUR EVERY NIGHTPLUS COMMERCIALS AND, BOOM,

WE'RE WATCHING "JEOPARDY."

(LAUGHTER)>> BUT YOU GET SO MUCH MORE ON

THE PBS NEWSHOUR.

>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU GET?

>> WELL, YOU GET COVERAGE OF THEDAY'S MOST IMPORTANT STORIES,

WHETHER IT'S HEALTH CARE REFORM,THE HEALTH CARE LAW THAT YOU

JUST SPENT SOME TIME TALKINGABOUT, THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE,

THE -- WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THEDRONE STRIKES.

>> Stephen: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUTIN-DEPTH.

>> IN-DEPTH.

>> Stephen: TIME FOR IN-DEPTH.

WHAT IS THE VALUE OF IN-DEPTHAND, GWEN, YOU ANSWER IN FIVE

WORDS OF LESS, PLEASE.

>> THERE IS NOT MUCH VALUE IN --THAT'S FIVE!

>> Stephen: SORRY, THERE IS NOTMUCH VALUE IN IN-DEPTH.

SORRY, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TIMEFOR, GWEN.

>> SEE, THAT'S THE THING.

WE NEVER RUN OUT OF TIME.

>> Stephen: BUT HERE'S THEPROBLEM WITH YOU TWO IS THAT

YOU'RE VERY LEVEL HEADED.

I GET INFORMATION FROM YOU.

WHEN I WATCH THE NEWS I'MLOOKING FOR EMOTION.

WHICH OF YOU IS GOING TO BE THECONSERVATIVE, WHICH ONE IS GOING

TO BE THE LIBERAL AND WHAT AREYOU GOING TO BE FIGHTING OVER?

>> IF YOU WANT FIGHTING AND YOUWANT OPINION THERE ARE LOTS OF

PLACES TO GO.

OUR VIEW, STEPHEN, IS THAT OURVIEWERS ARE SMART AND CURIOUS SO

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEMINFORMATION AND LET THEM MAKE UP

THEIR OWN MINDS.

>> I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ONCOLLEGE CAMPUSES WHERE STUDENTS

SAY TO ME "I ONLY WATCH COLBERT"OR "I ONLY WATCH JON STEWART"

AND THEN I TELL THEM YOU GUYSWATCH US TO FIND OUT WHAT'S

REAL.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: I DO, I DO WATCH YOU

GUYS BECAUSE I'M HOPING YOU'LLTAKE MY SUGGESTION OF HAVING

MARK SHIELDS AND DAVID BROOKSFIGHT IN A PIT.

(LAUGHTER)THAT WOULD BE EXCITING.

>> I CAN TELL THEM.

>> Stephen: MODERN BEAR-BAITING.

YOU GUYS HAVE BOTH BEEN IN THENEWS FOR A LONG TIME.

HOW DO YOU THINK IT'S CHANGED?

YOU SEEM TO HAVE AN OLDER MODELOF NEWS THAT IS NEWS AS

INFORMATION NOT NEWS ASENTERTAINMENT.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S OLD.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LOOK, WEBELIEVE THAT VIEWERS ARE SMART,

THEY CAN MAKE UP THEIR OWNMINDS.

I THINK THAT'S A NEW IDEA.

I THINK FRANKLY BECAUSE MOST OFWHAT -- MUCH OF WHAT YOU SEE ON

TELEVISION TODAY IS ABOUTOPINION.

>> Stephen: OPINION IS ALSO AGREAT PENNY-PINCHER BECAUSE YOU

DON'T TO BACK OPINION UP WITHANYTHING.

(LAUGHTER)WE DO THIS SHOW FOR $1.29 AN

EPISODE.

(LAUGHTER)THIS IS CHEAPER PER POUND THAN

GREEN BEANS.

I CAN JUST MAKE UP ALL THE FACTSI WANT.

YOU GUYS, DO YOU FACT CHECK THETHINGS YOU'LL BE TELLING US?

>> WELL, WHEN WE ASK FOR MONEYTHAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY TO

GET THE NEWS.

IT'S A NOVEL IDEA THAT WE HAVETO GO GET THE NEWS AND BRING IT

BACK AND THEN LET PEOPLE DECIDE.

>> Stephen: THAT BRINGS ME TOANOTHER PROBLEM.

YOU GUYS ARE IN THE POCKET OFBIG DO NATEORS.

(LAUGHTER)BECAUSE YOU GUYS GET YOUR MONEY

FROM VIEWERS -->> VIEWERS LIKE YOU.

>> Stephen: VIEWERS LIKE YOU.

EXACTLY.

BUT WHAT IF VIEWERS LIKE THEMHAVE A SCANDAL.

WILL YOU BE REPORTING ON VIEWERSLIKE THEM KNOWING THAT THEY

COULD PULL THE FUNDING ON YOURSNOW.

>> IF IT'S A SCANDAL THAT WETHINK AFFECTS -- MOST PEOPLE IN

THE COUNTRY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT,SURE

>> WHEN B.P. WAS DUMPING OILINTO THE GULF, THEY WERE ONE OF

OUR UNDERWRITERS AND EVERY NIGHTWE WOULD SAY "B.P. IS MANY OF

OUR UNDERWRITERS, NOW LET METELL YOU HOW MANY BARRELS OF OIL

WENT INTO THE GULF TODAY."

IT DIDN'T STOP US FROM COVERINGTHE STORY BUT IT ALLOWED US TO

COVER THE STORY.

>> Stephen: DO THEY STILLUNDERWRITE YOUR SNOW

>> NO, ACTUALLY.

(LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: INTERESTING.

INTERESTING.

INTERESTING.

ALL RIGHT, NOW I'M THRILLED THATWE HAVE TWO FEMALE ANCHORS

FINALLY GIVING US THE NEWS BUT,OF COURSE, LIKE THE HIGHLANDER,

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.

HOW WILL YOU ACTUALLY BACK STABEACH OTHER AND BECOME THE ONLY

ANCHOR.

>> YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO DOTHAT.

>> Stephen: I KNOW YOU DON'TWANT TO BUT IT'S AN UGLY

BUSINESS.

ARE YOU GUYS FRIENDS?

>> YES.

>> WE ARE FRIENDS, WE LIKE EACHOTHER.

WE RESPECT EACH OTHER.

AND LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, STEPHENTHINK HOW FAR THE COUNTRY HAS

COME JUST USING HALF OF ITSTALENT.

THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH FARTHER WECAN GO IF WE USE ALL OF THE

TALENT.

IF WOMEN ARE ALLOWED TO DO WHATMEN HAVE DONE.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)>> Stephen: ALL RIGHT, BUT AM I

GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET MY MANNEWS WHEN I CHECK IN WITH THE

LADIES?

BECAUSE LAST NIGHT I REPORTED ONWHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT BETWEEN

A LION AND A TIGER.

I DON'T THINK A WOMAN WOULDREPORT ON THAT.

I BROKE THAT STORY, JUDY.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> Stephen: I FWLEK STORY.

>> HERE'S THE THING.

WHEN WE GOT THIS JOB WE THOUGHTIT WAS A NATURAL PROGRESSION FOR

US.

AND WE WERE SURPRISED AND TAKENABACK BY HOW MANY WOMEN--

ESPECIALLY YOUNG WOMEN-- REACTEDEMOTIONALLY ABOUT THE IDEA THAT

WE ARE SITTING IN THESE CHAIRSSO I DON'T KNOW YOU, JUDY, BUT I

FEEL LIKE I'VE TAKEN IT MORESERIOUSLY SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE

CHAIR BECAUSE I DID BEFORE.

>> Stephen: YOU SHOULD TAKE ITMORE SERIOUSLY.

THE PBS NEWSHOUR HAS BEEN SOSILLY FOR SO MANY YEARS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOININGME.

GWEN IFILL, JUDY WOODRUFF.

ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE YOU ON!

JUDY WOODRUFF, GWEN IFILL.