Jessica Buchanan & Erik Landemalm

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The couple discuss their book, "Impossible Odds: The Kidnapping of Jessica Buchanan and Her Dramatic Rescue by SEAL Team Six." (6:48)

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

MY GUESTS TONIGHT HAVE WRITTEN A

BOOK ABOUT BEING RESCUED FROM

SOMALI PIRATES.

I'M GOING TO ASK WHAT IT'S LIKE

TO MEET JOHNNY DEPP.

PLEASE WELCOME JESSICA BUCHANAN

AND ERIC LANDEMALM.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

THANK YOU.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING ON.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

Stephen: NOW, YOU HAVE A NEW

BOOK CALLED "IMPOSSIBLE ODDS"

THE KIDNAPPING OF JESSICA

BUCHANAN AND HER DRAMATIC RESCUE

BY SEAL TEAM SIX.

SET THE TABLE FOR US HERE.

WHERE WERE YOU AND WHY?

>> WELL, I WAS IN SOMALIA.

Stephen: WHY?

THAT IS NOT USUALLY A VACATION

DESTINATION.

>> IT'S ACTUALLY VERY BEAUTIFUL.

Stephen: IS IT REALLY?

IT IS ACTUALLY.

Stephen: BUT PEOPLE GET

KIDNAPPEDDED THERE.

>> WELL, THEY'RE STARTING TO,

YES.

ANYWAY, SO ERIC AND I, WE ARE

HUMANITARIAN AID WORKERS.

I'M A TEACHER BY PROFESSION.

HE'S A HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER.

WE WERE THERE DOING HUMANITARIAN

AID WORK.

>> Stephen: AND HOW LONG HAD YOU

BEEN THERE BEFORE YOU WERE

KIDNAPPED?

>> WELL, WE WERE LIVING IN THE

NORTHERN PART OF SOMALIA WHICH

IS SAFER.

DEFINITELY.

SO I HAD TRAVELED DOWN INTO

SOUTHERN SOMALIA FOR MY

ORGANIZATION TO DO SOME TRAINING

AND THINGS FOR MY STAFF.

IN THE PLACE WHERE I WAS

KIDNAPPED I WAS ONLY ABOUT A

DAY.

>> Stephen: YOU HAD JUST GOTTEN

THERE.

WHEN DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU WERE

BEING KIDNAPPEDÑi BY PIRATES?

>> I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS BEING

KIDNAPPED BY PIRATES FOR A

WHILE.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

YOU ACTUALLY WERE KIDNAPPED

BEFORE YOU WERE REALIZED YOU

WERE BEING KIDNAPPED?

>> I REALIZED THAT I WAS BEING

KIDNAPPED.

THAT WAS ABOUT IT.

I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS AL SHABAB

OR PIRATES.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE

GANGSTERS OR WHO IT WAS.

>> Stephen: WAS THIS ON A BOAT?

THIS WAS NOT ON A BOAT.

Stephen: SO THESE WEREñr LAND

PIRATES, THE RARE LAND PIRATE.

WERE YOU WITH HER WHEN SHE WAS

KIDNAPPED?

>> NO, NO, IÑi WAS ABOUT FOUR

HOURS'ÑiÑi DRIVE, DRIVING NORTH y5ç

WHERE JESSICA SET THE TIME.

>> Stephen: I DIDN'T HEAR MUCH'pABOUT THIS STORY BACK

UNITED STATES.

WAS THERE MUCH REPORTING AND I

JUST MISSED IT?

>> NO, NO, WE TRIED TO KEEP IT

AS DARK ASÑi POSSIBLE.

>> Stephen: YOU DIDN'T WANT

REPORTING ON IT.

>> NOTHING.Ñiñr

Stephen: WHY?

HONESTLY, WE WANTED TOAOrpkEÑi

CONTROL OVER THEñr SITUATIONÑi.

ONCE IT REACHES GOOD PEOPLEÑi LIKE

YOURSELF, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT

WILL HAPPEN.

>> Stephen: YOU SPECIFICALLY

KEPT ME FROM FINDING OUT ABOUT

IT.çó

>> RIGHT.

HAVE FLOWN OVER THERE MYSELF AND

KICKED A LITTLE ASS.

OKAY.

HOW LONG WERE YOU?çó

>> 93 DAYS.

Stephen: WHAT WERE THE

CONDITIONS YOU WERE LIVING

UNDER.

>> TERRIBLE.

MINE IT WAS LIKE THE MOST

EXTREME CAMPING EXPERIENCE YOU

COULD EVER HAVE.

I MEAN I'M A HUMANITARIAN AID

WORKER BUT I'M NOT MUCH OF A

CAMPERMENT IT WAS SLEEPING ON

THE GROUND UNDER TREES OUT AT

NIGHT EATING TUNA FISH OUT OF A

CAN WITH AÑi TAMP ONAPPLICATOR AS

A UTENSIL.Ñi

BEING SURROUNDED BYÑi 26 MEN 24

HOURS A DAY FOR 93ñr DAYS.

>> Stephen: WHAT WERE THEY

ASKING FOR?

>> THEY STARTED THE RANSOM AT

$45 MILLION.

THE REASONING BEHIND THAT WAS,

YOU KNOW, THE SOMALI CULTURE

WORKS IN A WAY THAT THEY ALL

COME TOGETHER AND CONTRIBUTE.

SO IT'S A CLAN SYSTEM.

THEY FIGURE AMERICA WORKS THAT

WAY TOO.

HOW MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE

IN AMERICA?

ALL THEY HAD HAD TO DO WAS PITCH

IN A DOLLAR AND THEN BOOM.

>> Stephen: THEY THOUGHT WE'D

PASS A HAT AROUND IN AMERICA ANDÑi

SEND THEM $45 MILLION?

>> YES.

Stephen: DID YOU END UP

RAISING ANY MONEY?

>> NO.

Stephen: DID YOU TELL THEM

WE'RE RAISING THE MONEY.

>> OF COURSE.

Stephen: WE'RE LIKE AT 30

MILL RIGHT NOW.

>> DOWN TO 18 MILLION.

Stephen: YOU EVALUATED.

EVENTUALLY IT WENT DOWN

FURTHER.

>> Stephen: DID YOU EVER MAKE

ANY SORT OF CONNECTION WITH

THEM?

PEOPLE TALK ABOUT STOCKHOLM

SYNDROME.

I KNOW YOU'RE FROM SWEDEN SO YOU

MUST HAVE IT ALL THE TIME.

DID YOU HAVE IT AT ALL?

DID YOU SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM AT

ALL?

>> I'M AN AID WORKER SO THERE IS

A LEVEL OF SYMPATHIZER WITH

THEM.

I MEAN THAT'S WHY I WAS THERE IN

THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE I WANTED

TO HELP THE SOMALI PEOPLE.

HOWEVER, I DIDN'T WANT TO SIT

THERE AND LIVE WITH THEM IN THE

DESERT FOR ENDLESS PERIODS OF

TIME.

>> Stephen: WHAT WAS THE RESCUE

LIKE?

>> IT WAS CRAZY.

Stephen: WHAT DID YOU THINK

WAS HAPPENING?

>> I THOUGHT I WAS BEING

REKIDNAPPED BY ANOTHER GROUP.

>> Stephen: DOES THAT HAPPEN A

LOT?

>> THAT HAPPENS.

Stephen: YOU'RE A COMMODITY.

NOT ONLY WERE THEY TRYING TO

KEEP FROM BEING ATTACKED BY THE

AMERICAN MILITARY OR OTHER

MILITARY THEY WERE TRYING TO

KEEP USç"AS HOSTAGES AWAY FROMñr

I THOUGHT WE WERE BEINGçó

KIDNAPPED BYñr AN EXTREME GROUP

.LINKED TO AL.P Ñ

I'M LAYING THERE.

THERE'S GUN FIRE GOING ON.

I'M HEARING PEOPLE DIE AROUND

ME.ç4@6CJ%

IT'S LIKEçó THE MOST... IT'S LIKE

A HOLLYWOODÑi MOVIE.

AND I'M THINKING, OKAY, EITHER

I'M GOING TO GET SHOT IN THE

HEAD AND THIS IS REALLY OVER OR

I'M GOING TO GET REKIDNAPPED.

I'M NEVER GOING TO SURVIVE THIS.

>> NOT UNTIL THEY GRABBED ME AND

THEY SAID MY NAME.

THEY SAID JESSICA.

WE'RE THE AMERICAN MILITARY.

WE'RE HERE TO SAVE YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU HOME.

YOU'RE SAFE.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

>> Stephen: AND THEN IN THE

HELICOPTER...

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

DO YOU STILL LIVE OVERSEAS?

ARE YOU STILL IN A DANGEROUS

AREA?

>> NO.

Stephen: WHERE ARE YOU NOW?

WE LIVE OUTSIDE OFMY WASHINGTONçó

D.C.

>> Stephen: YOU STILL LIVE NEAR

RUTHLESS THIEVES.

IVING IN A PLACE>> BUT WE4kQ

WHERE THE AUTHORITIES ACTUALLY

DO SOMETHING.

SO WE FEEL OKAY.

>> Stephen: YOU HAVE A KID NOW.çó

WE DO.

( APPLAUSE )

>> Stephen: THANK YOU.

THAT WAS A GOODÑi QUESTION.Ñi

IS HAVING A NEWBORN SOMETIME

LIKE BEING KIDNAPPED BY PIRATES?

AT LEAST YOU HAVE SOME SLEEP

BACK THEN.

>> NOT EXACTLY.

I HAVE TO SAY HE'S A LOT CUTER

THAN THE PIEçó RAS.

>> Stephen: DO YOU THINK YOU'LL

EVER DO BACK AND DO THIS KIND OFñr

WORKçó AGAIN.

>> YEAH.

, WE KINDÑi OF...

NOT IN SOMALIA.

Stephen: YOU KNOW, THERE ARE

SOME POOR PEOPLE IN BRITISH

VIRGIN ISLANDS AS WELL.

IN THE CARIBBEAN.

THANK YNW SO MUCH FOR JOINING

ME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ERIC, JESSICA.

THE BOOK IS IMPOSSIBLE ODDS.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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