Timothy Dolan Pt. 2

  • Aired:  09/03/13
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Timothy Cardinal Dolan talks about Pope Francis' views on homosexuality and elaborate clothing. (3:33)

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

WE'RE HERE WITH TIMOTHY CARDINAL

DOLAN WHO HAS A NEW E-BOOK

CALLED "PRAYING IN ROME,

REFLECTIONS ON THE CONCLAVE AND

ELECTING POPE FRANCIS."

I WAS JUST OVER IN ROME.

AMAZING.

ONE THING THAT I DIDN'T CARE FOR

WAS ST. PETERS BECAUSE IT WAS SO

CROWDED WITH PEOPLE HOPING TO

CATCH A GLIMPSE OF THIS NEW

POPE.

>> UH-HUH.

>> Stephen: WHY DO YOU THINK

THIS GUY IS DRAWING A CROWD?

>> WELL, HE'S DOWN TO EARTH,

HE'S SIMPLE, HE'S SINCERE.

WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET.

HE BECAUSE GREAT ARCHBISHOP OF

BUENOS AIRES, WHICH IS ONE OF

THE...

>> Stephen: BUT HE'S NOT

WEARING THE GOLD.

HE'S NOT ON THE BIG GOLDEN

THRONE.

WHEN I SEE HIM, I PUT MY BUCK IN

THE COLLECTION PLATE ON SUNDAY,

THAT'S FOR PRODUCTION VALUE.

I WANT TO SEE LIKE AN "IRON MAN

3" PRODUCTION VALUE WHEN I GO

THERE.

>> WHATEVER HE IS OR IS NOT

WEARING, HE SURE SEEMS TO BE

DOING WELL POPULARITY WISE.

HE'S MARKETING THE MESSAGE, AND

I USE MARKETING IN THE BEST

SENSE OF THE WORD.

WE SAY EADVANTAGEIZATION, BUT

HE'S A PRO AT IT, ISN'T HE?

>> Stephen: MARKETING LIKE

MATTHEW, LUKE AND JOHN.

OKAY, ANOTHER THING I GOT A

PROBLEM, WITH AND I HATE TO MAKE

YOU ANSWER FOR THE GUY YOU DID

OR DID NOT VOTE FOR.

>> OKAY.

>> Stephen: BUT HE ALSO SAID

THAT HE WAS ASKED ABOUT

HOMOSEXUALITY AND SAID, WHO AM I

TO JUDGE?

>> UH-HUH.

>> Stephen: YOU ARE THE POPE

TO JUDGE.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

BUT AREN'T WE SUPPOSED TO?

WHAT IS DECLARATION OF SIN NOR

SIN EXCEPT A JERUSALEM?

>> NO, WELL, WE CAN NEVER JUDGE

PERSON, RIGHT?

WE CAN JUDGE ACTION, BUT WE

CAN'T JUDGE PERSONS.

JESUS TOLD US THAT.

SO HE'S REPEATING THE TIMELESS

TEACHING OF THE BIBLE THAT WE

CAN NEVER JUDGE ANOTHER HUMAN

BEING.

I CAN'T JUDGE BERNIE MADOFF.

I DON'T LIKE WHAT HE DID.

I CAN JUDGE THE ACTIONS.

BUT I COULDN'T JUDGE HIS HEART

OR SOUL.

>> Stephen: BUT I'M A PUNDIT.

IF I DON'T JUDGE ANYONE, I DON'T

GET A CHECK.

>> YOU GOT RATINGS TO TAKE CARE

OF, AND I HOPE I HELP.

BUT HE'S NOT.

HE LEAVES THAT UP TO THE LORD.

THE LORD IS THE SUPREME JUDGE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT TO JUDGE.

>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU THINK

ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT

BENEDICT, CAN I STILL CALL HIM

POPE BENEDICT.

>> SURE YOU CAN.

>> Stephen: YOU'VE GOT POPE

BENEDICT AND POPE FRANCIS AT THE

SAME TIME.

WE HAVE A SPARE POPE RIGHT NOW.

POPE BENEDICT MADE YOU A

CARDINAL.

>> HE DID INDEED.

>> Stephen: HE MADE YOU A

CARDINAL.

DO YOU THINK FRANCIS LOOKS AND

YOU AND GOES, YOU'RE ONE OF

BENNIE'S BOYS.

NO, NO, NO, BACK OF THE

POPE-MOBILE FOR YOU.

>> WE ALL ARE.

WE ALL ARE.

HE HASN'T MADE ANY YET.

SO I'D LIKE TO THINK HE'D SAY HE

WAS PART OF THE CONCLAVE THAT

ELECTED ME.

>> IS THIS THE FIRST CONCLAVE

YOU EVER WENT TO?

>> FIRST CONCLAVE EVER.

>> Stephen: AFTER FRANCIS IS

OUT, WHENEVER...

>> I HOPE IT'S A LONG TIME.

>> Stephen: I HOPE IT'S A LONG

TIME.

I HOPE IT'S A RETIREMENT.

>> OKAY.

>> Stephen: WE GET SOMEBODY IN

THERE THAT I AM MORE SIMPATICO

WITH.

IF YOU WERE TO BE MADE POPE,

WHAT NAME WOULD YOU CHOOSE?

[APPLAUSE]

STEPHEN.

[CHEERING AND APPLAUSE]

>> Stephen: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CARDINAL TIMOTHY DOLAN, WE'LL BE

RIGHT BACK.