Shane Smith

  • Aired:  04/10/13
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VICE co-founder Shane Smith discusses his journalism adventures in Taliban-controlled areas, North Korea and labor camps. (6:48)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT HAS BROUGHT HIS

SUBVERSIVE JOURNALIST TO HBO.

THAT'S PERFECT, I LOVE

SUBVERTING JOURNALIST.

PLEASE WELCOME SHANE SMITH.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

PLEASE, MR. SMITH.

CAN I CALL YOU SHANE?

>> YES.

>> Stephen: THANKS FOR COMING

ON AND THANK YOU FOR WEARING

YOUR FORMAL T-SHIRT.

COFOUNDER OF VIES MAGAZINE CAN.

ARE YOU ACANADIAN PERSON?

>> I AM INDEED.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

JOIN US ANY TIME.

IT'S BECOME A GLOBAL ENTERPRISE

SINCE THEN.

A RECORD LEVEL, IN-HOUSE

CREATIVE SERVICES AGENCY, BOOK

MUST BISHING DIVISION NOW YOU

ARE THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER AND

CORRESPONDENT FOR ADVICE HBO'S

NEW NEWS MAGAZINE.

DESCRIBE THE BRAND.

WHAT IS IT OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW,

DIFFERENT?

[LAUGHTER]

>> WE STARTED AS A MAGAZINE

ABOUT 18 YEARS AGO.

>> BOOK WHEN THERE WERE

MAGAZINES NL AND WE MOVED TO 34

COUNTRIES AND AS WE TRAVELED TO

THOSE COUNTRIES WE NOTICED THERE

WAS A LOT OF CRAZY STUFF GOING

ON.

WE STARTED REPORTING AND

SHOOTING IT AND, YOU KNOW, PUT

IT ONLINE AND NOW WE HAVE A BIG

YOUTH FOLLOWING.

>> WHAT I LOOK ABOUT IT IS YOU

HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED AS HAVING A

CASUAL MISS SOJ ANY.

[ LAUGHTER ]

IS THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE

EXPLORING A SORT OF RECONTEXT

YOU'LLIZATION OF A PATRIARCHAL

MASCULINITY OR DO YOU SORT OF

LIKE CITY SHOTS?

THERE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NICE

STUFF IN HERE, YOU KNOW?

NAKED LADIES AND LIKE ARMED

GORILLAS.

>> SURE.

>> Stephen: WHY THE MIX?

>> YOU KNOW, LOOK FASHION IS,

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NAKED GUYS IN

THERE.

>> Stephen: THERE'S NOT A LOT

OF FASHION INVOLVED IN LIKE NO

CLOTHES ON.

[ LAUGHTER ]

IS THAT THE HONEY TO GET PEOPLE

TO THE REST OF THE STORY.

>> THE EDITORS OF THE MAG ARE

UNDER 40.

>> Stephen: IT'S NOT ME IT'S

THE EDITORS.

>> WE DO YOU WILL ATE.

>> Stephen: YOU ARE A MAN OF

ALL JACKING TRADES.

>> THERE YOU GO.

[ LAUGHTER ]

>> Stephen: YOU GO TO SOME

CRAZY PLACES IN THE WORLD.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: WHAT I LIKE ABOUT

THIS IS I DON'T LIKE THINKING

ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD.

I BELIEVE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT

AMERICA FIRST.

>> SURE.

>> Stephen: IF YOU ARE WE'RE

OTHER PLACES, I WOULD RATHER IT

BE YOU NOT ME.

>> Stephen: WE HAVE A CLIP OF

SOME PLACE YOU JUST WENT.

>> I THINK WE'RE IN THE

NORTHWEST PROVINCE ON THE

AFGHANI BORDER WITH THE

PAKISTANI ARMY GOING INTO

TALIBAN CONTROLLED AREAS.

>> Stephen: JIM., LET'S TAKE A

LOOK.

LEAVING NOW.

THE ONLY PART OF THE WHOLE AREA

THE PAKISTANI ARMY CONTROLS AND

SUPPORTS JUST TO BE CLEAR WHEN

WE SAY THEY ONLY CONTROL THE

PORT THAT MEANS THE RECEIVE OF

THE PROVINCE IS CONTROLLED BY

THE TALIBAN.

>> THERE'S MACHINE GUN AS LONG

EVERY BUILDING ON THE ROUTE.

IT MAKES ME WORRIED THAT THEY

SAY THAT EVERYTHING IS UNDER

CONTROL.

>> Stephen: WILL YOU SHARE?

>> WHUR ACTUALLY DOING IT.

>> Stephen: WHERE YOU SCARED?

>> WHEN YOU ARE DOING IT YOU ARE

WORRIED ABOUT THE SHOT.

AT THE TIME YOU ARE NOT SCARED

WHEN YOU GO BACK AND ETDITY YOU

ARE LIKE WHAT WAS I DOING.

>> Stephen: DO YOU CALL

YOURSELF A JOURNALIST OR YOU ARE

AN ADD VENTURER WITH A CAMERA

ARE?

>> I'M BOTH.

>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU CALL

YOURSELF?

>> I DON'T CALL MYSELF ANYTHING.

WE GET STORIES.

>> Stephen: ARE THEY ACCURATE?

>> OF COURSE.

>> Stephen: WHY?

WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BE ACCURATE

WHY CAN'T THEY JUST BE

EMOTIONALLY MOVING.

>> WE HAVE TO BE ACCURATE.

>> Stephen: WHY?

I WATCH HBO ARE YOU TELLING ME

THERE ARE REAL DRAGONS OUT

THERE?

[LAUGHTER]

YOU SENT OVER VIES WAS THE

OUTFIT THAT MADE NEWS BY SENDING

DENNIS RODMAN AND THE GLOBE

TROTTERS TO NORTH KOREA.

SINCE THEY'VE COME BACK NORTH

KOREA HAS BEGUN ON A WAR FOOTING

AND WARNED THE WORLD ABOUT

NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST.

THANK YOU -- HOLOCAUST.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

HAVE YOU BEEN THERE YOURSELF?

>> I WENT TWICE.

>> Stephen: HAVE YOU BEEN

THERE WITH DENNIS?

>> NO, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO GO

BACK BECAUSE I WAS HARSH ON THE

REGIME.

WHEN I WAS THERE I SAW THE MAGIC

BASKETBALL.

>> Stephen: WHAT IS THAT.

>> THAT MADELEINE ALBRIGHT GAVE

TO KIM JONG-IL THAT IS SIGNED BY

MICHAEL JORDAN.

THAT'S WHY THEY LOVE THE BULLS,

THE CHICAGO BULLS, MICHAEL

JORDAN ERA.

>> Stephen: I LOVE THE CHICAGO

BULLS, TOO.

IS THERE ANY CHANCE I'M A

TOTALITARIAN LEADER.

>> WE FIGURED THEY LOVED THE

BULLS, WE COULD SEND THEM OVER

AND MAYBE HE WOULD SHOW UP.

DID HE AND HE INVITED EVERYBODY

BACK TO DINNER.

>> Stephen: YOU'VE BEEN THERE,

WHAT IS THE EXPERIENCE LIKE?

IS IT CAN BE STAY AT PEACE ARE

ARE WE GOING TO WAR?

>> MY GUESS WOULD BE PEACE.

THEY DO A LOT OF SAB BE RAYING

TO GET WHAT THEY WANT WHICH IS

FOOD, ENERGY.

THEY'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST.

IT'S LIKE GOING BACK TO STALIN

IN RUSH SHAH OR MAOIST CHINA.

THEY ARE A FULLY UTOPIAN

COMMUNIST STATE THAT IS AT WAR

WITH US IDEOLOGICALLY.

>> Stephen: YOU GO TO PLACES

LIKE FORCED LABOR CAMPS.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: YOU GOOD TO WAR

ZONES OR SEXUAL SLAVERY DENS.

WHY DO YOU WANT TO GET MIXED UP

WITH SOMETHING AS SEEDY AS

BROADCAST JOURNALISM?

[LAUGHTER]

WHY DO TV WHY DO TV IF YOU HAVE

AN EMPIRE ONLINE.

THAT IS WHERE IT'S AT AT THE

INTERNET.

>> HBO IS THE GOLD STANDARD.

>> Stephen: IT'S NOT TV, IT'S

HBO.

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU.

SO MUCH FOR COMING.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING REST OF

IT IT'S VIES.COM.

SHANE SMITH.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

[CHEERS AND

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