Ta-Nehisi Coates

  • Aired:  01/21/13
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Ta-Nehisi Coates discusses President Obama's reelection, the Black Panther Party and Michelle Obama's youthful hairdo. (5:44)

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>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A SENIOR EDITOR FOR "THE ATLANTIC." TONIGHT'S INTERVIEW WILL BE

ANYTHING BUT PACIFIC PLEASE WELCOME TA-NEHISI COATES.

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THANK YOU FOR COMING.

AS I SAID, SENIOR EDIT FOR THE ATLANTIC RIGHT HERE.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: YOU'VE GOT THIS GREAT MEMOIR CALLED "A BEAUTIFUL STRUGGLE" CAME OUT A FEW YEARS BACK.

HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.

HAVEN'T READ IT.

BEST RECOMMENDATION.

>> Stephen: YOU'RE WELCOME.

YOU ARE A BLACK GUY?

>> I AM MOST OF THE TIME.

>> Stephen: I CAN'T TELL.

I DON'T SEE RACE.

AFTER OBAMA WAS ELECTED.

I COMPLETELY SHUT OFF MY RACIAL SWITCH.

PEOPLE TELL ME I'M WHITE AND I BELIEVE THEM BECAUSE I LOVE JAMES TAYLOR.

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: AS A BLACK GUY --

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU FOLKS -- CAN I SAY BLACK FOLKS.

>> YES BETTER THAN YOU FOLKS.

>> Stephen: IT'S LIKE A LINE INSERT BLACK.

>> I CAN GO WITH THAT.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU STILL EXCITED ABOUT THIS FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT THING OR HAVE YOU GOT

ON OVER THAT?

>> AS A BLACK FOLK.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR 30 MILLION OR 40 MILLION OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS NOW.

>> Stephen: GOOD.

>> I THINK WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED.

>> Stephen: STILL?

>> YEAH, YEAH.

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IN FACT, I WOULD GO SO FAR TO SAY THAT THIS IS BIGGER THAN THE LAST TIME.

>> Stephen: WHY?

>> WELL, BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF -- NO ONE SAW IT COMING.

CINDERELLA TALE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP AND THIS IS DEFENDING THE CHAMPIONSHIP AND

WE DEFENDED THE CHAMPION SHISM BLACK FOLKS ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

>> Stephen: AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHILDREN CAN NOW LOOK UP TO BARACK.

AS A ROLE MOLD.

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: WHAT ABOUT WHITE CHILDREN?

THEY HAVE TO LOOK UP TO JOE BIDEN, IS THAT FAIR?

>> NO, NO IT'S NOT FAIR BUT --

[ LAUGHTER ]

AFTER 400 YEARS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIKE EIGHT YEARS OF PAYBACK RIGHT?

>> Stephen: EXCUSE ME, IT IS PAYBACK.

>> YOU --

>> Stephen: WHEN DO REPARATIONS START?

THASTLES A SOCIALIST POWER GRAB IN THE SPEECH.

HE IS TALKING ABOUT ENDING THE PARTISAN DIVIDE.

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: DOESN'T HE HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF THE BLAME?

>> NO.

>> Stephen: WE HAD A CONGRESS AND HE WAS THE VARIABLE.

HE WAS THE X FACTOR, THE CHANGE.

HE GOT IN THERE AND --

>> NO, NO.

>> Stephen: SUDDENLY WE'RE MORE DIVIDE THAN EVER.

>> THE MID TERM ELECTION IN 2010, RIGHT.

>> Stephen: WE WERE ANGRY RIGHT AWAY.

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: I GOT ANGRY EXTREMELY ANGRY RIGHT AWAY.

BECAUSE HE WON THOUGH.

HE WON.

>> Stephen: YES.

>> RIGHT.

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS BY WINNING HE SHOULD HAVE UNITED THE COUNTRY.

THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS BY HIM LOSING.

>> Stephen: THAT WOULD HAVE UNITED THE COUNTRY.

HE PUT HIS OWN DESIRES ABOVE WHAT IS BEST FOR THE NATION AVERAGE LONG WITH THE PEOPLE WHO

VOTED FOR HIM.

>> Stephen: ALONG WITH THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM.

>>

>> Stephen: WHAT?

>> ALONG WITH THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM.

>> Stephen: THEY WOULDN'T HAVE VOTED FOR HIM IF HE DIDN'T RUN AGAIN.

YOU ARE THE SON OF A MEMBER OF BLACK PANTHERS.

>> FORMER MEMBER.

>> Stephen: THEY ARE NOT AROUND ANYMORE?

>> NO.

>> Stephen: DO YOU NOT SEE THEM KEEPING WHITE PEOPLE FROM VOTE?

>> THAT'S DIFFERENT.

>> Stephen: YOU WERE THE GOOD BLACK PANTHERS?

>> YES.

>> Stephen: WERE YOU RAL CALLIZED AS A CHILD?

>> YEAH, I WOULD SAY SO.

I WAS RADICALIZED.

>> Stephen: DID OBAMA FULFILL YOUR RADICAL APRIL GENDA.

>> MY RADICALIZATION HELD THAT THERE COULD NEVER BE A BLACK PRESIDENT.

IF ANYTHING OBAMA BROKE MY WORLD VIEW ACTUALLY.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED TO AMERICA IF ANYTHING IT MADE ME LESS LESS RADICAL.

I DID A FLIP-FLOP ON THAT.

SAWED BACK AND FORTH.

[ LAUGHTER ]

>> Stephen: AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN AN OBSERVER OF OBAMA'S PRESIDENCY --

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: CAN WE TALK ABOUT MICHELLE OBAMA'S BANGS FOR A SECOND.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

WHAT COULD YOU THINK?

A RARE MISSTEP?

>> AH --

>> Stephen: DON'T GET ME WRONG SHE LOOKS UNBELIEVABLY BEAUTIFUL IT'S A YOUTHFUL LOOK.

IT'S LIKE SHE'S AUDITIONING TO REPLACE ZEO --

>> THE FIRST RULE OF A BLACK PRESIDENT IN AMERICA: DON'T TALK ABOUT A BLACK WOMAN'S HAIR.

IF SHE THINKS IT'S GREAT.

IT'S GREAT.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU IS SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME.

FROM THE "THE ATLANTIC." WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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