Transgender Awareness - Janet Mock

  • Aired:  02/18/14
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"Redefining Realness" author Janet Mock expands on her heated interview with Piers Morgan and the challenges facing the transgender community. (6:24)

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

THANKS SO MUCH.

YOU KNOW, FOLKS, IF YOU ARE JUSTJOINING THE REPORT ALREADY IN

PROGRESS, BEFORE THE COMMERCIALBREAK, WE WERE DISCUSSING, SHALL

WE SAY, THE BATHING SUIT REGION.

I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO GRAPHICHERE BECAUSE YOU SEE, AS A

BROADCASTER WHEN IT COMES TOTRANSGENDER ISSUE I DON'T KNOW

WHAT I SHOULD SAY TO THESEPEOPLE.

HERE TO SAY WHAT I SHOULD SAY TOTHESE PEOPLE, PLEASE WELCOME

TRANSGENDER ACTIVIST, PIERSMORGAN ABUSER, AND AUTHOR OF

"REDEFINING REALNESS," JANETMOCK.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

NOW THEN, HERE'S THE BOOK,"REDEFINING REALNESS," GO GET

IT.

NOW, YOUNG LADY, YOUNG LADY-- ( CHEERS )

OKAY, NOW I DON'T-- I DON'T WANTTO MISSTEP HERE.

SO WHAT I'VE DONE-- WE'VE HADYOU RECORD ON THIS BUTTON RIGHT

HERE, WHAT YOU SAID TO PIERSMORGAN.

GIVE IT A LITTLE SHOT THERE.

>> GET IT THE ( BLEEP )TOGETHER.

>> Stephen: OKAY, IF AT SOMEPOINT, YOU THINK I'VE SAID THE

WRONG THING, JUST HIT THEBUTTON, OKAY?

>> I WILL.

>> Stephen: THOSE ARE THEGROUND RULES.

>> OKAY( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Stephen: JANET-- CAN ICALL YOU JANET?

>> PLEASE, DO CALL ME JANET.

>> Stephen: YOUNG LADY, WHYARE YOU SO MAD AT MY BUDDY

PIERS.

WHY DID YOU UNLOAD ON HIM?

>> I THINK ME AND PIERS HAD ANISSUE SPEAKING ACROSS PRIVILEGE,

ACROSS DIFFERENCE, AND ACROSSEXPERIENCE.

I THINK THAT THEY USE VERYPROBLEMATIC LANGUAGE THAT SHOWED

THEIR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING.

I THINK OUR WIDER CULTURE -->> Stephen: THEY?

HE'S A HE.

HE SELF-IDENTIFIES AS A SINGLEMAN.

DON'T YOU IDENTIFY HIM ASSOMETHING OTHER THAN A SINGLE

MAN.

THAT'S HIS CHOICE.

ALL RIGHT.

>> GET IT THE ( BLEEP )TOGETHER.

( LAUGHTER )( APPLAUSE ).

>> Stephen: HOW DARE YOU?

HOW DARE YOU?

OKAY, YOU SAID THAT HE WASTRYING TO SENSATIONALIZE YOUR

LIFE.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: DID YOU-- DID YOUNOT WANT TO SELL A LOT OF BOOKS?

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MOVESPAPERS, SENSATIONALIZING.

>> WELL, YES, BUT THE BOOK'SPURPOSE IS TO ELEVATE THE ISSUE

FACING YOUNG TRANS, TALK ABOUTISSUES FACING TRANSWOMEN OF

COLOR AND THE TRANS COMMUNITY ATLARGE.

THEY DEAL WITH DAILY ACCESSISSUES, LIKE BEING ABLE TO

SAFELY LEAVE THEIR HOME.

BEING ABLE TO WALK ON THE STREETWITHOUT BEING HARASSED.

BE ABLE TO GET AFFORDABLEMEDICAL CARE-- WHICH I KNOW YOU

REALLY BELIEVE IN.

>> Stephen: SURE, MOVE TOCANADA, BABY.

( LAUGHTER )IS IT GETTING BETTER FOR PEOPLE

IN THE TRANS COMMUNITY?

>> I THINK IT IS.

I THINK THAT ME SITTING HEREWITH YOU AS YOUR FIRST OPENLY

TRANS GUEST, I'M ASSUMING--( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

IS AN AMAZING MOMENT.

AND I ALSO THINK THAT-- AND YOUALSO ARE JUST ASKING HOW

DO PEOPLE WANT TO IDENTIFY.

THOSE 50 FACEBOOK GENDER MARKERS--

>> Stephen: THAT DOESN'T SEEMLAKE A LOT TO YOU?

>> ACTUALLY, IT SEEMS LIKE ALITTLE.

>> Stephen: REALLY WHEN I WASA KID--

>> NON-BINARY, BIGENDER -->> Stephen: THAT WAS IN

THERE, TOO.

I ONLY HAVE A HALF HOUR SHOW.

HELP ME OUT HERE!

I'M JUST A GUY, SELF-IDENTIFY ASA GUY.

IS THERE A NAME FOR THAT AS AGUY WHO IDENTIFIES AS A GUY?

>> YES YOU IDENTIFY AS A GUY.

AND I THINK ASKING PEOPLE -->> Stephen: DO I HAVE A NAME?

>> DO YOU IDENTIFY AS A MAN?

>> Stephen: I DO, BABY.

>> I THINK THE FIRST STEP ISASKING PEOPLE HOW THEY IDENTIFY?

WE RESPECT THEIR FREEDOM TOSELF-IDENTIFY.

>> Stephen: DOESN'T THAT MAKEEVERY CONVERSATION WITH A PERSON

YOU MEET END UP BEING ABOUT THATOTHER PERSON?

>> WELL -->> Stephen: I WANT THE

CONVERSATION TO BE ABOUT ME?

>> IT IS BECAUSE IT FREEZE YOUFROM MAKING MISTAKES AND

ASSUMPTION.

>> Stephen: SHOULD I LEADWITH THAT, "STEPHEN COLBERT,

SELF-IDENTIFIES AS A MAN."

>> YES, AND I USE "HE" AND "HIM"PRONOUNS.

>> Stephen: WHAT IF NOT "HE"OR "HIM.

OF.

>> THEY, THEM.

I USUALLY USE IT "THEY."

>> Stephen: FOR A SINGLEPERSON?

>> YES.

>> Stephen: THAT SOUNDS WAYTOO MUCH LIKE WHAT SHALL I CALL

YOU?

AND THE DEMON SAYS WE ARE LEGIONBECAUSE WE ARE MANY.

THAT SETS OFF ALARM BELLS IN MYHEAD.

>> FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT'S HOWTHEY WANT TO IDENTIFY AND IT

FREES US FROM MAKINGASSUMPTIONS.

>> Stephen: HELP ME OUT.

I SELF-IDENTIFY AS JUST ANAVERAGE JOE SIX PACK.

>> OKAY.

>> Stephen: WHEN I GREW UP,WHEN I GREW UP, YOU HAD AN INNIE

OR AN OUTIE.

IT WAS LIKE A BELLYBUTTON, OKAY?

>> OKAY, OKAY.

>> Stephen: I'M AT SEA HERE.

I'M COMPLETELY AT SEA IN THE NEWWORLD.

I MIGHT BE TOO OLD TO LEARN THISNEW STUFF.

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

>> I THINK THIS IS ACONVERSATION ABOUT GENDER, AND I

THINK OUR GENDERS ARE AS UNIQUEAS WE ARE.

MY FATHER HAD A VERY BLACK ANDWHITE IDEA OF GENDER, MEN DO

THIS, GIRLS DO THIS.

WOMEN DO THIS, BOYS DO THAT.

FOR ME I WAS FORCED TO FOLLOWALL OF HIS RULES.

I WAS A BABY WHO WAS ASSIGNEDMALE AT BIRTH AND TOLD I NEEDED

TO ACT LIKE A BOY.

>> Stephen: IF I HAVE A BABYAND SEE CERTAIN GENITALS-- I

DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANY OFTHE ROUGH STUFF-- I MIGHT SAY

THAT'S A BOY.

AM I DOING THE WRONG THING BYDOING THAT?

SHOULD I JUST CALL A BABY "IT."

UNTIL IT'S OLD ENOUGH TO FILETAXES?

>> OR "THEY" OR "MY CHILD" OR"MY KID."

>> Stephen: WOULD YOU LIKETHIS TO TO BE NOT A BIG DEAL

EVENTUALLY?

>> I WOULD.

>> Stephen: SO YOU WANT TO BELIKE THE REST OF US WHICH IS

BORING.

WHAT IS THE MOST BORING ASPECTOF BEING TRANSGENDER?

>> WHAT IS THE MOST BORINGASPECT OF BEING TRANSGENDER?

>> Stephen: YES.

BECAUSE LIFE IS BORING.

MOSTLY IT'S THIS.

THIS IS NICE, BUT THERE'S THAT,WHICH IS BAD.

THIS IS GOOD.

BORING IS GOOD, RIGHT?

>> I THINK THE MOST BORING THINGIS TALKING TO SOMEONE ABOUT

TELLING THEM HOW I IDENTIFY.

THAT'S THE MOST BORING THING.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU BOREDRIGHT NOW?

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS ENTIRECONVERSATION HAS BEEN ABOUT.

>> GET IT THE ( BLEEP )TOGETHER.

>> Stephen: JANET, THANK YOUSO MUCH FOR JOINING ME.

JANET MOCK, "REDEFININGREALNESS" WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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