Growing Intelligence Community - Richard Clarke

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Richard Clarke believes that too many intelligence agencies increase the chances that the next terrorist attack will succeed. (10:55)

YOU GUYS SHOULD WRITE YOURSELF

OUT OF THE METRONOME.

I CAN TELL YOU FOLKS HAVE THE

RHYTHM.

I HOPE YOU HAD A FUN WEEKEND.

I DID AND THE PRESIDENT

CERTAINLY DID.

HE WENT FOR A SWIM IN THE GULF

OF MEXICO.

THEN I CAN ASSUME THE SECRET

SERVICE SCRUBBED HIM OFF WITH

DAWN.

AFTER THAT HE PLAYED MINIGOLF

AND SASHA GOT A HOLE IN ONE.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

YES.

AN ADORABLE ATTACK ON SMALL

BUSINESS OWNERS, FORCING THEM TO

FOOT THE BILL FOR HER FREE GAME.

LET'S SEE.

TOOK HIS FAMILY ON A BOAT RIDE.

GOT SOME ICE CREAM AND, OH,

YEAH, HE ENDORSED JIHAD.

>> I BELIEVE THAT MUSLIMS HAVE

THE RIGHT TO PRACTICE THEIR

RELIGION AS EVERYONE ELSE IN

THIS COUNTRY.

THAT INCLUDES THE RIGHT TO BUILD

PLACE OF WORSHIP AND A COMMUNITY

CENTER ON PRIVATE PROPERTY IN

LOWER MANHATTAN.

>> Stephen: YOU KNOW WHAT,

I'VE BEEN WRONG, AND I OWE THE

PRESIDENT AN APOLOGY.

YOU'RE NOT A SECRET MUSLIM.

[LAUGHTER]

AND WHAT'S HIS EXCUSE FOR

DEFENDING MUSLIM'S

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS?

>> I BO -- BARACK HUSSEIN,

OBAMA, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO

SERVE AND PROTECT THE

CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED

STATES SO HELP ME GOD.

>> Stephen: AND BY GOD WE MEAN

THIS GUY, NOT THIS GUY.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

IT JUST FEELS WRONG IN HERE.

YOU CAN CITE THE CONSTITUTION

AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS ALL YOU

WANT, BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR

GUTSTITUTION.

DON'T TELL ME MUSLIMS AND AL

QAEDA ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

HERE ARE ALL MUSLIMS.

HERE'S AL QAEDA.

THAT LOOKS LIKE AN EYE.

WHOSE EYE?

OSAMA BIN LADEN.

THE POINT IS... THE POINT, IS

FOLKS, YES, TECHNICALLY,

TECHNICALLY MUSLIMS HAVE

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, BUT SINCE

9/11, WE GAVE UP A TON OF OUR

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, SEARCH

AND SEIZURE, TRIAL BY JURY,

HABEAS CORPUS.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT LAST

ONE MEANS.

I THINK IT'S THE LITTLE CAESAR'S

MASCOT.

MOST OF ALL, MOST OF ALL WE HAVE

GIVEN UP THE RIGHT THE PRIVACY.

I CAN'T MAKE A PHONE CALL

WITHOUT HEARING DICK CHENEY

BREATHING ON THE LINE.

HE STILL USES LUNGS, RIGHT?

OKAY.

GOOD.

YOU SEE, AFTER 9/11, THE

INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY REALIZED

THEY FAILED TO CONNECT THE DOTS.

SO THEY CAME UP WITH THE

SIMPLEST ANSWER, MORE DOTS

PLEASE.

>> THE MONEY SPIGOT WAS JUST

OPENED AFTER 9/11, AND NOBODY

DARE SAY, I DON'T THINK WE

SHOULD BE SPENDING THAT MUCH.

>> THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IS

APPARENTLY LARGER, MUCH LARGER.

1,271 GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS

COMPRISE OUR INTELLIGENCE

COMMUNITY, 1,931 PRIVATE

COMPANIES ARE TIED TO IT.

>> THERE ARE 854,000 PEOPLE WITH

TOP-SECRET SECURITY CLEARANCE.

>> Stephen: MORE PEOPLE HAVE

TOP-SECRET SECURITY CLEARANCE

THAN HAVE POP-SECRET SECURITY

CLEARANCE.

[LAUGHTER]

THIS I THINK YOU CAN GET.

I WAS THINKING OF THE ONE YOU

RAKE OVER THE THING AND IT GOES

LIKE THAT.

BUT ANYWAY, THE MUSHROOM CLOUD

EFFECT.

I THINK IT'S NUCLEAR POWER THAT

MAKES THAT THING FLUFF UP.

I'M AN OLD MAN.

FOLKS, THESE ARE DANGEROUS

TIMES.

THAT'S WHY WE NEED THE C.I.A.,

THE F.B.I., THE N.S.A., THE

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY,

THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL

INTELLIGENCE, THE DEFENSE

INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, THE

NATIONAL GEOSPATIAL INTELLIGENCE

AGENCY, THE NATIONAL

RECONNAISSANCE OFFICE, THE

NATIONAL COUNTER-TERRORISM

CENTER, THE NATIONAL DRUG

INTELLIGENCE CENTER, THE OFFICE

OF INTELLIGENCE SUPPORT, THE

PURE RO OF DIPLOMATIC SECURITY,

THE INFORMATION SECURITY

OVERSIGHT OFFICE AND, OF COURSE,

THE NATIONAL BUREAU OF ON-SCREEN

GRAPHIC OVERLOAD.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> IN FACT, IN FACT, FOLKS, WE

ARE NOW PROTECTED BY SO MANY

SECRET PROGRAMS THAT THE

INCOMING DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL

INTELLIGENCE JAMES CLAPPER SAID,

"THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTITY IN THE

ENTIRE UNIVERSE THAT HAS

VISIBILITY ON ALL PROGRAMS.

THAT'S GOD."

THAT MEANS GOD'S A SPY.

THAT'S WHY HE ALWAYS UNDERCOVER

AS A BURNING BUSH OR A GRILLED

CHEESE SANDWICH.

OUR ANALYSTS HAVE TO KEEP UP

WITH A MASSIVE FLOW OF DATA.

THE N.S.A. ALONE PROCESSES 1.7

BILLION ELECTRONIC INTERCEPTS

PER DAY, AND THAT'S JUST FROM

KANYE WEST'S TWITTER PAGE.

[LAUGHTER]

AND, FOLKS, THE SYSTEM IS

CLEARLY WORKING.

AS RETIRED GENERAL JOHN VINE

SAYS, "BECAUSE IT LACKS A

SYNCHRONIZING PROCESS, WE

CONSEQUENTLY CAN'T EFFECTIVELY

ASSESS WHETHER IT IS MAKING US

MORE SAFE," WHICH MEANS IT'S

MAKING US MORE SAFE.

YOU SEE, IF OUR ENEMIES

INFILTRATE OUR SPY NETWORKS,

THEY, LIKE US, WILL HAVE NO

[BLEEPED] IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

SO... SO... SO... I AM CALLING

ON CONGRESS TO MAKE OUR

INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM EVEN LARGER

WITH A NEW AGENCY TO MONITOR OUR

EXISTING AGENCIES.

THE NATIONAL CENTRAL HOMELAND

SURVEILLANCE BUREAU OF

INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AGENCY, IS

NCHSBIAA OR NCHSBIA, WHOSE

INSIGNIA IS AN EAGLE LOOKING UP

ITS OWN ASS.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

AND, FOLKS... AND WE COULD

HEADQUARTER THEM ANYWHERE.

>> IT'S REALLY NATIONWIDE.

>> THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IN

THE UNITED STATES HAS GROWN AND

GROWN WITH ABOUT 10,000

LOCATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> 10,000 LOCATIONS.

THAT'S ALMOST AS MANY AS

STARBUCKS.

SPEAKING OF, WHICH I COULD

REALLY GO FOR A LATTE FROM THE

STARBUCKS UNDER MY DESK.

BARRY?

>> YEAH.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> LISTEN, BARRY.

>> THAT'S MY NAME, BARRY.

>> Stephen: CAN I GET A TRIPLE

SHOT SKINNY LATTE?

>> YES, YOU CAN, SINCE ALL I DO

IS PREPARE SUCH DRINKS AND

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE.

GREAT.

I'LL GO DO THAT THEN.

HERE YOU GO.

>> Stephen: WOW.

THAT'S REALLY FAST, LIKE YOU CAN

READ MY MIND.

>> WHICH I CAN'T.

IT'S HOT SO YOU'RE GOING TO WANT

TO COOL IT OFF BY SPEAKING

DIRECTLY INTO THE LID.

>> Stephen: THANKS.

>> THIS ORDER NEVER HAPPENED.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Stephen: SO HAS OR

INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM BECOME AN

UNMANAGEABLE, IMPENETRABLE

BEHEMOTH OR HAVE WE ACHIEVED

THAT DREAM YET?

HERE TO TELL ME HOW THE ACHIEVE

IT, PLEASE WELCOME THE AUTHOR OF

"CYBERWAR" AND FORMER

INTELLIGENCE CZAR RICHARD

CLARKE.

MR. CLARKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW, SIR, YOU'RE THE AUTHOR OF

"CYBERWAR."

>> I AM.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

AND YOU USED TO BE THE HEAD, YOU

KNOW, GUY OUT THERE WORKING WITH

SECURITY TO TRY TO KEEP THE

TERRORISTS FROM GETTING IT.

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: IS THIS NOT A

GREAT THING TO HAVE THOUSANDS OF

MORE PEOPLE, HUNDREDS OF

THOUSANDS OF MORE PEOPLE WORKING

IN SECURITY?

MORE IS BETTER.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M A RED SOX

FAN, AND THIS YEAR MAYBE WE

SHOULD HAVE 12 PLAYERS ON THE

FIELD INSTEAD OF NINE.

THAT MIGHT BE BETTER, BUT HAVING

100 ON THE FIELD, THEY'D FALL

OVER EACH OTHER.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN

THE GOVERNMENT.

WE HAVE TOO MANY PLAYERS ON THE

FIELD AND THEY SPEND ALL THEIR

TIME FALLING ALL OVER EACH OTHER

AND NOT GOING AFTER THE BAD GUYS

STIPE STEEP WE HAVE ALMOST ONE

MILLION PEOPLE NOW WORKING IF

INTELLIGENCE.

>> I COULDN'TLE THE YOU THAT.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE YOU DON'T

KNOW OR I DON'T HAVE THE

CLEARANCE?

>> NOBODY KNOWS.

>> Stephen: NOBODY KNOWS.

>> THESE AGENCIES OUTLINED IN

THE "WASHINGTON POST" ARTICLE

ABOUT HOW LARGE IT'S GOT, IS

THAT ALL THE AGENCIES OR ARE

THERE MORE AGENCIES THAT WE WILL

JUST NEVER KNOW ABOUT?

>> WE'RE DISCOVERING MORE EVERY

DAY.

>> Stephen: WHO IS "WE," BY

THE WAY?

WHO IS "WE"?

ARE YOU STILL WITH THE

INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY?

>> NO.

>> Stephen: IF YOU WERE, COULD

YOU TELL ME?

>> WE WANDER AROUND NORTHERN

VIRGINIA.

WE LOOK IN PARKING LOTS AND

ELSEWHERE, AND CONSTANTLY WE'RE

DISCOVERING NEW AGENCIES WITH

VAULTS AND GUARDS.

WE COULD BE ATTACKED AGAIN.

AND LINING UP MORE AND MORE

INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND MORE

AND MORE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS ARE

MAKING A PROFIT ON THIS IS NOT

GOING TO STOP THIS.

IN FACT, THE FACT THAT THE

INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ARE

TRIPPING ALL OVER EACH OTHER

COORDINATING WITH EACH OTHER

MAKES AN ATTACK MORE LIKELY.

SOMETIMES SMALL IS BETTER, AND

IN THIS BUSINESS HAVING TOO MANY

PEOPLE OUT THERE RUNNING AROUND

MAKING MONEY, TRIPPING ALL OVER

EACH OTHER, INCREASING THE

CHANCES THAT THE NEXT TERRORIST

ATTACK WILL SUCCEED.

>> Stephen: THERE ARE SO MANY

INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS OUT THERE

THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, IS

THERE ANY CHANCE I'M A SPY AND

DON'T KNOW IT?

>> YOU COULD BE AN AGENT THAT'S

BEING USED WITHOUT YOUR KNOWING

IT, YES.

I MEAN, THIS WHOLE PROGRAM COULD

BE A SECRET PROPAGANDA EFFORT

DESIGNED TO DRIVE MUSLIMS IN THE

MIDDLE EAST CRAZY.

YOU NEVER KNOW.

>> Stephen: AND IF I FOUND

OUT, WOULD I HAVE TO KILL

MYSELF?

[LAUGHTER]

>> NO BECAUSE IF THAT'S TRUE,

THEY'LL KILL YOU.

[AUDIENCE REACTS]

>> Stephen: WELL, ON THAT

CHEERFUL NOTE, CAN I OFFER YOU A

DRINK?

SIR, WOULD YOU CARE FOR A LATTE?

>> YES, PLEASE, NON-FAT.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU.

RICHARD CLARKE, THANK YOU SO

MUCH FOR JOINING US.

RICHARD CLARKE, THE BOOK IS