Charlie LeDuff

  • Aired:  04/09/13
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Detroit native Charlie LeDuff discusses white flight, black flight, business flight and "dead flight" in his hometown. (6:49)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT SAY REPORTER WHO HAS WRITTEN A NEW BOOK DETROIT AN AMERICAN AUTOPSY I

BELIEVE THE CAUSE OF DEATH WAS AUTO EXOTIC IMPORTATION.

PLEASE BELL COME CHARLIE LEDUFF.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

CHARLIE, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK.

IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS.

NICE TO SEE YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Stephen: YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK CALLED "DETROIT: AN AMERICAN AUTOPSY." WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF DEATH?

WHAT DID THE COURNEAUER FIND?

>> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WHITE FLIGHT, BLACK FLIGHT, BUSINESS FLIGHT WE EVEN HAVE DEAD FLIGHT.

>> Stephen: DEAD PEOPLE WILL NOT STAY IN DETROIT?

[LAUGHTER]

>> PEOPLE WHO GREW UP IN DETROIT WHO LIVE OUT IN THE SUBURBS AND ARE AFRAID OF IT, ABOUT 1200 IN

THE LAST FIVE YEARS THEY'VE GONE AND GOT GRANDMA SCHIEWMED HER AND BROUGHT -- EXHUMED HER AND

BROUGHT HER TO THE SUBURBS TO VISIT HER.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO DETROIT.

>> THEY WERE AFRAID.

>> Stephen: YOU WERE AWAY FROM 15 YEARS, RIGHT?

>> YES.

>> Stephen: WHY DID YOU GO BACK TO DETROIT?

>> I CHANGED.

I WAS THE BIG SHOT NORKTS -- "NEW YORK TIMES" GUY.

>> Stephen: RIGHT PULITZER PRIZE IN YOUR POCKET.

>> HIS A KIDFUL.

IT CHANGES EVERYTHING.

I LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GIVING OUR KIDS.

WE HAVE TO FIX WITH.

WE MOVED HOME TO BE WITH GRANDMA, AUNTS AND UMPG.

S.

MY WIFE IS FROM THERE AS WELL.

I LOOK AND SAY TO MY PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU DO HERE?

>> Stephen: WHAT DID THEY DO?

THERE WERE 8.5 MILLION AT ONE POINT AND NOW THERE'S 700,000 AND CHANGE.

>> IN THE 50s MORE PEOPLE LEFT THEN THAN AT ANY OTHER TIME.

THE SUBURBS WERE GROWING AND THE MECCA CAN CALL COTTON PICKERS.

WE NEVER HAD TO ADDRESS RACIAL ISSUES.

>> Stephen: THE WHITE PEOPLE WERE THE ON THE OUTSIDE.

>> IT WAS LEGAL TO BAR JEWS AND BLACKS FROM NEIGHBORHOODS UNTIL THE 1950'S UNTIL MICHIGAN.

IN THE NORTH THEY NEVER TAUGHT US THAT.

>> Stephen: I'M FROM THE SOUTH.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE RACISTS.

>> RIGHT ON, BROTHER.

>> Stephen: BUT OBAMA SAVED THE AUTO INDUSTRY, RIGHT?

IT'S BOOMING, AMERICA IS BACK THIS IS THE SECOND HALF SAID CLINTESTWOOD IN THE AMERICAN IS STORY.

HALFTIME IN THE AMERICAN STORY.

WHY ISN'T DETROIT BOOMING IF THE AUTO INDUSTRY IS BOOMING?

>> WE ALL KNOW IT.

THE COMPANY IS BOOMING.

WE SHAVED THE DEBT, THE CREDITORS TAKE A BATH THEY NOW MAKE PROFIT BUT THE JOBS ARE NOT

HERE ANYMORE.

THEY ARE SOME PLACE WAY OVER THERE.

>> Stephen: ROMNEY WAS RIGHT THE JEEP JOBS WERE SHIPPED TO DHN.

>> CHINA, MEXICO, TAIWAN, YOU NAME IT.

THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK.

THE POINT OF BOOK AN AMERICAN AUTOPSY YOU BETTER LOOK AT DETROIT BECAUSE THAT WHAT

HAPPENS WHEN YOU RUN OUT OF MONEY.

WE'RE SCARED TO DEATH OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN WASHINGTON.

PRINTING BEGUN SPENDING NOT SPENDING.

SEQUESTRATION.

GET THE MONEY TOGETHER OR THE KIDS DON'T HAVE A FUTURE.

[ APPLAUSE ]

>> Stephen: OKAY HE WAS BROUGHT IN AS AN EMERGENCY MANAGER TO FIX THE PLACE.

HE IS NOT ELECTED.

>> HE IS NOT ELECTED TAKING OVER THE BOOKS.

>> Stephen: WHAT IS IT LIKE TO LIVE NOT IN A DEMOCRACY ANYMORE?

>> THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SAY.

THAT'S THE BEEF BUT, LOOK, IT'S BETTER THAN LIVING IN HELL.

GET THE MONEY TOGETHER.

THE FEDS HAVE COME IN AND HELPED US WITH THE POLITICAL CORRUPTION.

>> Stephen: IS IT CORRUPT?

>> THE SOMEWHERE GOING TOLL FEDERAL PRISON.

>> Stephen: ILLINOIS HAS HAD GOVERNORS THAT GO TO PRISON.

>> WE'RE NOT ONLY ONES THAT IS RIGHT.

IN SAN DIEGO.

>> Stephen: MAYBE YOU ARE NOT CORRUPT ENOUGH BECAUSE SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES, HEY WHAT THE

MARKET WILL BEAR.

YOU GET THE GOVERNMENT YOU PAY FOR.

YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING.

>> TOTALLY TRUE.

[ LAUGHTER ]

TONY JEFFERSON?

>> Stephen: THE SOMEWHERE GOING TO JAIL.

>> GOING TO THE CAN.

>> Stephen: HAS THIS GUY GOT A CHANCE TO PULL IT TOGETHER?

>> WE HOPE.

THE F.B.I. STRAIGHTENS UP OUR POLITICAL CORRUPTION.

THE EM GUY HOPEFULLY STRAIGHTENS UP THE BOOKS.

THE CAR COMPANIES ARE STRAIGHT.

WE HAVE TRADE WITH CANADA, ALL THE WATER.

>> Stephen: TRADE WEAPON CANADA?

>> ONE-QUARTER OF A TRILLION IN TRADE WITH CANADA COMES OVER THE BRIDGE IN DETROIT.

THAT'S OUR FUTURE.

ASK YOURSELF ATLANTA, BIRLINGHAM, STOCKTON, PHOENIX, WHAT IS YOUR FUTURE?

>> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW.

WHY BECAUSE YOU THINK THOSE ARE THE NEXT CITIES?

>> ASK THE PEOPLE IN PHILADELPHIA?

ASK THEM IN HARRISBURG, BALTIMORE.

THIS IS THE GREAT SWATH OF AMERICA.

I'M SCARED.

>> Stephen: IF PAST STORIES YOU COVERED THE WAR IN IRAQ, CROSSED THE DESERT WITH MIGRANT

MEXICANS, YOU BECAME A TRAP PEASE CLOWN IN A TRAVELING CIRCUMSTANCE SOCIAL SECURITY OF

IMMIGRANTS IS MOVING BACK TO DETROIT AS IT GOES DOWN THE TUBES A STUNT?

ARE YOU LIKE SET ME ON FIRE AND PUSH ME OFF A CLIFF?

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> I ACTUALLY WAS GOING TO RUN FOR MAYOR AND THEN I REALIZED YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO DO THE JOB

AND THE TIME FOR STUNTS ARE OVER.

TIME FOR ELECT THE PEOPLE ON A NAME ARE OVER.

WE HAVE TO GET HIP, EDUCATE OURSELVES AND START COMING TOGETHER AND DOING WHAT IS RIGHT

FOR THE WHOLE -- YOU KNOW, NO MAN IS AN ISLAND.

IF ONE IS PERISHED IF A CHILD IS HURT WE'RE ALL DIMINISHED SOMEHOW.

DO YOU FEEL ME?

>> Stephen: I DO.

I FEEL YOU, MAN.

I FEEL YOU RIGHT HERE.

>> NO ONE IS LISTENING.

I WOKE MY WIFE UP AT 6:00 A.M.

AND SAID BABE, I'M ANGRY AGAIN, TALK ME DOWN.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

WHAT DOES SHE DO TO TALK YOU DOWN?

I WOULD LOVE TO BE TALKED DOWN.

I'M ANGRY ALL THE TIME.

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE SHOW?

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: I'M LIKE EYE NUTRIENT BATH OF RAGE.

HOW DID YOUR WIFE TALK YOU DOWN?

>> SHE SAYS IT'S OKAY NO GO DOWN AND MAKE THE COFFEE.

>> Stephen: AND THEN GO TO WORK.

>> RIGHT.

>> Stephen: WELL GO, TO WORK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Stephen: CHARLIE LEDUFF, DETROIT AN AMERICAN AUTOPSY.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]