End of Net Neutrality - Tim Wu

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"The Master Switch" author Tim Wu makes the case for net neutrality, arguing that cable companies want to impose a toll on the Internet. (3:35)

FOLKS, I SEE NOW THAT NETNEUTRALITY IS JUST STUPID.

HERE TO SAY IS NOT PLEASEWELCOME COLUMBIA LAW

PROFESSOR AND AUTHOR OF THEMASTER SWITCH, TIM WU, THANK

YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)YOU GOT THE BOOK HERE.

CALLED THE MASTER SWITCH.

ALL ABOUT THE INTERNET.

YOU'RE THE INTERNET GUY.

FIRST OF ALL, LET'S SETTLETHIS.

NET NEUTRALITY, GOOD THINGOR A BAD THING?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO SAY GOODTHING.

>> Stephen: BUT YOU WILLADMIT IT IS A STUPID NAME,

RIGHT.

NET NEUTRALITY.

>> IS A GREAT NAME.

>> Stephen: WHO CAME UP-- .

>> Stephen: WITHOUT CAMEWITH THAT GAME.

>> I DID.

>> Stephen: AS SOMEONE WHOIS A CONTENT CONSUME ERR, I

GO ON, I USE THE INTERNETAND I WATCH ALL THE THINGS.

AND I-- IS THAT GOING TOCOST ME MORE TO GET WHAT I

WANT, IF I WATCH LIKE A TVSHOW ON THE INTERNET.

>> WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THATNETFLIX WILL START COSTING

MORE, GOOGLE MAY COST MORE,EVERYTHING MAY COST MORE ON

THE INTERNET BECAUSE THEY'RENOW BEING BILLED, THEY'RE

BEING TOLD, SO WHAT THECABLE AND PHONE COMPANIES

WANT TO DO IS IMPOSE A TOLLON THE INTERNET TO REACH

THEIR CUSTOMERS.

>> Stephen: SHOULDN'T RICHPEOPLE GET BETTER THINGS?

I MEANS THAT'S WHY YOUBECOME RICH.

>> RIGHT.

>> SEE, THE THING IS IN THISCASE, IT'S NOT EVEN RICH

PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE,IT'S JUST THE CABLE COMPANY

OR THE PHONE COMPANY.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE CABLEAND PHONE COMPANIES POSITION

IS WE WOULD LIKE MORE MONEY.

AND LAST TIME I CHECKED ITHINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH

MONEY.

THEY JUST WANT MOURN.

>> Stephen: I'M NOT SUREWHAT THIS CONCEPT OF ENOUGH

MONEY IS.

(LAUGHTER)IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT LIKE,

AND I HOPE I'M PRONOUNCINGTHIS CORRECTLY, PORNOGRAPHY?

(LAUGHTER)BECAUSE NETFLIX STREAMS A

LOT OF VIDEO BUT WHOEVERTHAT IS OUT THERE WHO MAKES

PORNOGRAPHY, THEY STREAM ALOT OF VIDEOS TOO.

>> IT ACTUALLY COULD.

BECAUSE THE BASIC POSITIONTHE PHONE AND CABLE

COMPANIES IS IF YOU ARE'SMAKING MONEY, WE WOULD LIKE

OUR CUT.

GIVEN THAT PORNOGRAPHY SEEMSTO MAKE MONEY, SEEMS TO BE

POPULAR.

THE BASIC IDEA IS YOU HAVE ARIGHT TO GET-- .

>> Stephen: SOME PEOPLE AREIN IT FOR JUST THE LOVE OF

THE GAME.

(LAUGHTER)WITHIN THE BASIC IDEA IS IF

YOU PAY FOR THE INTERNET YOUSHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET

WHATEVER YOU WANT.

AND THE PHONE COMPANY, ANDTHE CALL COMPANIES SHOULDN'T

BE DECIDING WHAT THAT IS,WHETHER OR NOT IT'S

PORNOGRAPHY, WHETHER OR NOTIT'S A BLOG OR EVEN

DOWNLOADS OF YOUR SHOW.

>> Stephen: OKAY, BUT FORTHE INTERNET SERVICE

PROVIDERS OUT THERE, THEISPs FOR THEM THIS IS A

MATTER OF FREE SPEECH.

THEY WANT TO BE FREE TOCHARGE YOU FOR SPEECH.

>> RIGHT.

THEIR THEORY-- .

>> Stephen: WHY ARE YOUAGAINST FREE SPEECH?

WHY ARE YOU AGAINST FREESPEECH?

(APPLAUSE)SO THEIR THEORY IS THAT THE

RIGHT TO SENSOR THINGS ISTHEIR FREE SPEECH.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY WANTTO BLOCK GOOGLE OR NETFLIX

OR CHARGE MORE FOR NETFLIXTHAT'S FREE SPEECH.

THAT IS NOT MY IDEA OF FREESPEECH.

MY IDEA IS WHEN YOU USE THEINTERNET YOU SHOULD BE ABLE

TO GET WHAT YOU WANT ANDWHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK

WITH YOU ON THE INTERNETTHEY SHOULD BE ABLE

TO-- THAT IS ACTUAL FREESPEECH.

>> THERE HAS TO BE SOMEONEIN CONTROL.

YOU'RE ON MY SHOW.

YOU'VE GOT FREE SPEECH RIGHTNOW BUT IF I-- LET EVERYBODY

COME ON MY SHOW AT ONCE WEWOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU,

DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND.

>> YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'TALWAYS NEED TO BE SOMEONE IN

CONTROL, ACTUALLY.

>> YOU KNOW WE DRIVE DOWNTHE ROAD--

(LAUGHTER)WHEN YOU DRIVE ACROSS THE

BROOKLYN BRIDGE, THERE'S NOONE DECIDING WHO GETS TO

DRE ON THE BRIDGE.

>> NO, BUT ON THE GEORGEWASHINGTON BRIDGE-- CHRISTIE

DECIDES.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)TIM WU, THANK YOU SO MUCH

FOR JOINING ME.

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