Supreme Court Hearings on Gay Marriage - Emily Bazelon Pt. 2

  • Aired:  03/28/13
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Emily Bazelon talks about Justice Anthony Kennedy, the arguments for traditional marriage, and discrimination against same-sex couples. (3:00)

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

I'M BACK WITH EMILY BAZELON TALKING ABOUT SUPREME COURT'S UPCOMING DECISION ON GAY MARRIAGE.

WHY DOES THIS FALL TO ANTHONY KENNEDY AGAIN?

HE GETS TO MAKE EVERY DECISION.

THESE DAYS LIKE IF YOU GO TO A GROCERY STORE AND THEY SAY PAPER OR PLASTIC, YOU HAVE TO ASK

ANTHONY KENNEDY.

>> HE IS AN INCREDIBLY POWERFUL MAN.

THE SUPREME COURT REFLECTS THE DIFFERENT PRESIDENTS WHO APPOINT THE JUSTICES.

WE'RE A DIVIDED COUNTRY.

THE COURT IS DIVIDED AND KENNEDY IS THE FOCAL POINT RIGHT NOW.

>> Stephen: WHO HAD THE STRONGER ARGUMENT THERE?

>> I WAS AMAZED AT HOW WEAK THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE WERE.

>> Stephen: NO, THEY ARE INCREDIBLY STRONG.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE BABIES.

>> THE PROBLEM WITH THAT ARGUMENT.

>> Stephen: YOU KNOW HOW BABIES ARE MADE, RIGHT?

>> I KNOW HOW THEY ARE MADE BUT WE HAVE NEVER SAID PROCREATION IS THE FUNDAMENTAL PURPOSE OF MARRIAGE.

>> Stephen: WE HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT WE.

>> THINK OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LEAVES OUT.

>> Stephen: THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BEFORE.

>> THAT'S WHY BRINGING IT UP NOW IS SUSPECT.

BECAUSE THEY ARE BRINGING UP NOW TO KEEP OUT A PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE.

>> Stephen: UH-HUH.

>> THAT'S A FORM OF DISCRIMINATION AND THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE LAWS JUST TO EXCLUDE PEOPLE

FOR NO GOOD REASON.

DOES THE GOVERNMENT HAVE A GOOD REASON OR NO GOOD REASON.

I DID NOT HEAR ANY GOOD REASONS.

>> Stephen: WELL THERE'S ALSO THE -- YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

LEGALLY IT'S SORT OF LIKE ICK, YOU KNOW?

>> DO YOU THINK THAT'S A REASON WE SHOULD TREAT PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY UNDER THE LAW?

>> Stephen: AS LONG AS NO ONE IS STICKING THEIR TONGUE OUT AT ME.

>> ONE IMPORTANT RULE IS TO PREVENT GROUPS WHO PEOPLE ARE SUSPICIOUS OF AND DISCRIMINATE

AGAINST AND GAY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DISENFRANCHISED.

>> Stephen: WHY NOT TWO TYPES OF MARRIAGES.

GAY MARRIAGE IS LIKE RIDING COACH AND STRAIGHT MARRIAGE IN FIRST CLASS.

BUT IF WE ALL HAVE ONE MARRIAGE IT'S LIKE RIDING SOUTHWEST AND NOBODY WANTS THAT.

[ LAUGHTER ]

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE.

I THINK EVERYONE WILL BE IN FIRST CLASS.

I DON'T SEE WHY ALLOWING GAY PEOPLE TO GET MARRIED BRINGS YOU DOWN TO COACH CLASS.

WHY WOULD THAT BE?

>> Stephen: BECAUSE THE SPECIALNESS OF MY RELATIONSHIP IS THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T HAVE IT.

>> THAT'S WHY YOU GOT MARRIED?

>> Stephen: OBVIOUSLY IT'S A BIG GAY TAUNT.

OBVIOUSLY THE DOWRY WAS A BIG PART, TOO.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING AMERICA EMILY BAZELON,

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