Sean Carroll

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Cosmologist Sean Carroll discusses his book, "The Particle at the End of the Universe: How the Hunt for the Higgs Boson Leads Us to the Edge of a New World." (6:42)

>> WELCOME BACK.

HIS NEW BOOK IS CALLED THE PARTICLE AT THE END OF THE UNIVERSE.

>> GREAT, NOW I KNOW HOW THE UNIVERSE ENDS.

>> PLEASE WELCOME SEAN CARROLL.

CHORS PLAUS HOW'S IT GOING, NICE TO SEE YOU, DR. CARROLL.

>> MR. DOCTOR DOCTOR.

>> YOU CAN CALL ME SEAN.

>> Stephen: THANK YOU, DR. SEAN, THANKS FOR COMING BACK, A TV PSYCHIATRIST,

DR. SEAN, THEORETICAL PHYSICIST WHO THEORETICALLY HELPED YOU.

OKAY, NOW YOU'RE BACK AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE GREAT MYSTERIES OF MODERN THEORETICAL PHYSICS.

AND THAT IS THE PARTICLE AT THE END OF THE UNIVERSE, HOW THE HUNT FOR THE HIS BOSAN

LEADS TO US THE EDGE OF A NEW WORLD.

OKAY, YOU ARE, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME YOU'VE BEEN ON TO TALK ABOUT THIS I THINK

YOU'RE LIKE THE FOURTH OR FIFTH GUY WHO HAD TO COME ON AND EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE

HELL IS HAPPENING AT THE LARGE HEDRON COLLIDER OVER THERE IN SWITZERLAND, RIGHT.

>> AND NOT AMERICA, OKAY.

NOT AMERICA.

>> WE HAD OUR CHANCE.

>> WE DID.

>> IT MAKES IT HARD TO TRUST IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE UNITED STATES, DOESN'T IT,

SCIENCE IS EVERYWHERE.

>> THE SAME SCIENCE,.

>> REALLY?

>> IN GENEVA AS IN NEW YORK CITY.

>> BUT DURING THE COLD WAR WHEN WE WERE FIGHTING THE SOVIETS OUR GERMAN SCIENTISTS WERE BETTER THAN THEIR.

>> DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT PLACES.

>> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

EXPLAIN TO ME AGAIN BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT WHEN YOU EXPLAIN IT TO ME BUT THE MOMENT YOU LEAVE THE ROOM IT

EVAPORATES OUT OF MY HEAD.

>> COY EXPLAIN THAT USING SCIENCE.

>> OKAY, OKAY.

WHAT IS THE HIGG-BOSAN AND WHY IS IT.

>> SO BAG-- BACK IN THE DAY THE EARLY 60s FIS QUIST-- PHYSICISTS WERE TRY

TOUNGED STAND THE NUCLEAR FORCES THAT HOLD TOGETHER THE NUCLEAR A TOMORROW AND THEY COULDN'T.

THEY KEPT COMING UP WITH THIS IDEA THAT IT WAS SPREAD OUT ALL OVER THE PLACE WHICH

IT CLEARLY DOESN'T SO THEY CAME UP WITH THIS BIZARRE-SOUNDING IDEA THAT EMPATH-- EMPTY SPACE IS

FILLED WITH AN ENERGY FIELD EVERY WITH.

>> IMPOSSIBLE.

>> NO, NOT-- WE JUST GOT EVIDENCE THAT IT'S TRUE.

>> Stephen: NO, I'M GOING-- [BLEEP] BECAUSE-- (LAUGHTER)

>> Stephen: IT IS NOT EMPTY SPACE IF IT IS FILLED WITH SOMETHING.

CHECKMATE.

I WAIT YOUR APOLOGY.

>> THIS IS WHY.

THESE ARE SUPERSMART SCIENTISTS THEY FIGURED OUT THAT EVEN THE EMPTYIST OF SPACES COULD BE FILLED WITH SOMETHING.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

>> AND THE THING WE DISCOVERED IN JULY IS THE EVIDENCE THAT THEY WERE RIGHT.

48 YEARS LATER.

>> Stephen: OKAY.

SO AGAIN WHAT IS IT?

>> SO THIS FIELD THAT FILLS SPACE THAT AFFECTS ALL THE OTHER ARTICLES THAT MOVES

THROUGH IT GIVES RISE TO A NEW PARTICLE, THE HIGG-BOSAN.

>> Stephen: SO THE FIELD GIVES RISE TO THE NATURAL, AN ENERGY FORCE THAT GIVES

RISE TO A PHYSICAL THING.

>> EXACTLY.

>> Stephen: THAT IS LIKE TELEPORETATION.

>> NO, IT'S LIKE PHYSICS, IT'S LIKE SCIENCE, IT'S LIKE A LIGHT THAT IS COMING FROM

THE LIGHT BULBS.

>> THIS IS A VIBRATION IN A FEEL.

THE ELECTRIC FIELD, THE MAGNETIC FIELDS ARE VIBRATING AND WE SEE IT AS LIGHT.

>> Stephen: THAT SAY PHYSICAL THING BECAUSE YOU CAN GET A SUNBURN.

>> THAT'S RIGHT AND THE HIGG-BOSAN IS PHYSICAL BECAUSE IT SHOWS UP ON THE

DATA, THE PLOT IS RIGHT THERE.

>> Stephen: OKAY, AGAIN, I'M NO CLOSER TO UNDERSTANDING.

I HAVE HEARD THIS CALLED THE GORD PARTICLE YEAH.

>> Stephen: WHY IS IT CALLED THE GOD PARTICLE.

>> MARKETING?

:WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

>> PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO EXPLAIN HOW PORN THIS BOSAN IS TO PHYSICISTS, IT'S THE

LAST PIECE OF THIS ED I FIS WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING FOR THE LAST 2500 YEARS.

>> Stephen: IS THIS IS IT?

>> THIS IS THE LAST PIECE OF THIS PART.

>> Stephen: SO WE'VE WON SCIENCE.

>> WE'VE WON, THE WAY I LIKE TO SAY IT --.

>> Stephen: CAN WE GO BACK TO RELIGION NOW.

>> THE EASY PART IS NOW OVER.

>> Stephen: WHAT DOW MEAN THE EASY PART IS OVER.

>> WE DISCOVERED THAT THE UNIVERSE HAS DIFFERENT PARTS TO IT, THERE IS ODE MATTER

THERE IS DARK MATTER, DARK ENERGY, SO THE ODE MATTER, THE STUFF THAT MAKE UP YOU

AND ME, YOU AND ME MAKE UP THE FOUR HUMOR, RED BILE, YELLOW BILE, QUITE BILE.

>> OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THE ELEMENT, EARTH, AIR, FIRE AND WATER.

WHAT SINCE THEN?

>> QUANTUM FIELD THEY WERERY RIGHT THERE.

>> OVER, THIS IS THIS BIG HOOP, HULA HOOP THEY HAVE UNDERNEATH THE MOUNTAIN.

>> THEY SPEED UP THESE TINY PARTICLES.

>> 99.99999 PERCENT SPEED OF LIGHT.

>> Stephen: OKAYMENT AND HOW SMALL ARE WE TALKING HERE, LIKE AN ANT.

>> NO, REALLY SMALL.

>> Stephen: HALF AN ANT.

>> YEAH TUNIER.

>> Stephen: LIKE A GRAIN OF RICE.

>> SMALLER, KEEP GOING, VERY, VERY SMALL.

>> Stephen: WHAT DO WE GET FROM KNOWING THIS, DO I GET MY SWRET PACK NOW O

OR-- TELEPORETATION OR LIGHT SABRES, ANY OF THAT STUFF.

>> WE GET THE HAPPY FEELING THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW THE UNIVERSE WORKS.

>> Stephen: HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST NOW?

>> THE LARGE HEDRON COLLIDER WAS ABOUT $9 BILLION.

>> Stephen: ABOUT $9 BILLION SO GUYS LIKE YOU WHO CAN UNDERSTAND THIS GET HAPPY.

YOU KNOW WHAT A PRESCRIPTION OF PROZAC COSTS, RIGHT?

YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT TOO.

(APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: YOU KNOW.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE AGAIN I'M INTELLECTUALLY HYDRO PLANNING ON EXPLANATIONS.

-- WHEN I TRY THINK ABOUT THE WAY ARE YOU EXPLAINING IT TO ME, I'M SURE ARE YOU

BAD AT EXPLAINING THINGS, BUT COULD I UNDERSTAND IT WITHOUT THE MATH?

>> WAVE YOUR HAND THROUGH THE AIR COMPARING IT TO WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE WAVING IT

THROUGH MOLASSES T WOULD BE HARDER TO WAVE IT THROUGH THE MOLASSES.

>> Stephen: BUT FUN.

>> BUT FUN, EXACTLY.

SO THE HIGG FIELD LIKE THE MOLASSES.

ALL THE ELECTRONS THAT MAKE UP THE ATOMS HOLDING YOU TOGETHER, THEY ARE MOVING THROUGH THIS HIGGS FIELD,

GETTING MASS FROM THAT.

>> Stephen: THEY ARE GETTING MASS FROM MOVING --

>> THROUGH THE HIGGS FIELD.

>> IT INTERACTING WITH THEM AND GIVING THEM MASS.

THEY BECOME MASSIVE (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Stephen: SEAN CARROLL, THE PARTICLE AT THE END OF THE UNIVERSE.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK

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