The Imploding Muslim Country of the Week - Turkey - Omer Taspinar

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Professor Omer Taspinar predicts further polarization between Turkey's conservative religious masses and its liberal upper class. (3:05)

NATION, I FEEL SO TORN.

ON THE ONE HAND I'M A FAN OF

AUTHORITARIANS.

ON THE OTHER HAND (WHISPERS)

HE'S A MUSLIM.

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO THINK?

HERE TO TELL ME WHAT I'M

SUPPOSED TO THINK IS THE

PROFESSOR AT THE NATIONAL WAR

COLLEGE, OMER TASPINAR.

PROFESSOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

JOINING ME.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FROM

THE WAR COLLEGE.

>> THANK YOU.

Stephen: HOME OF THE FIGHTIN'

WARS.

NOW LET'S TALK TURKEY, ALL

RIGHT?

WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS DO

THEY HAVE A DEMOCRACY THERE?

>> IT IS IS PROBABLY.

Stephen: PROBABLY?

YOU'RE AN EXPERT.

IT'S PROBABLY.

IT'S LIKE A COIN TOSS ON A

DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

>> THERE'S A DEBATE BECAUSE

HERE'S IS A DEMOCRATIC ELECTED

LEADERS.

ERDOGAN IS DEMOCRATICALLY

ELECTED.

IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD IT IS AS

DEMOCRATIC AS IT GETS.

>> Stephen: PRIME MINISTER

CENTIPEDE, WHAT IS GOING ON

HERE?

HOW DID HE GET THESE PEOPLE SO

MAD?

IT CAN'T BE JUST OVER A MALL,

RIGHT.

>> THERE IS A BIG SEGMENT OF OF

TURKEY INCREASINGLY FRUSTRATED

WITH HIS AUTHORITARIAN

TENDENCIES.

HE CONTROLS BASICALLY

COMMERCIALS.

>> Stephen: IT'S LIKE A REALLY

GREAT PLACE TO GO HAVE FUN.

>> TELL ME ABOUT IT.

Stephen: WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO

TELL YOU?

>> PLEASE.

Stephen: BUT WHY IS... I

DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IS THE

PRESIDENT OF THE COUNTRY MAKING

DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH

TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND LIKE WHERE

THE MALL GOES?

THAT WOULD BE LIKE BARACK OBAMA

SAYING, "WE NEED A LEFT TURN

LANE PAST THE ARBY'S ON MAPLE

STREET."

WHY IS HE MICROMANAGING LIKE

THIS?

>> PARTIALLY BECAUSE HE'S A

CONTROL FREAK.

HE LIKES TO CONTROL THINGS.

HE LIKES TO BASICALLY TELL HIS

CONSERVATIVE BASE THAT HE'S

DOING HIS UPMOST TO HAVE A

CONSERVATIVE AGENDA.

>> WHERE IS HIS POWER BASE?

IF NOT ISTANBUL, WHERE IS IT?

>> THE PROVINCES IN THE HEART

LAND CONSERVATIVE RELIGIOUS

MASSES URBAN POOR.

>> Stephen: BASICALLY YOU HAVE

THIS CONSERVATIVE, THE PROVINCES

AND THE HARTLAND VERSUS THE

LIBERAL...

>> UPPER CLASS.

Stephen: IT'S LIKE AMERICA

BUT WITH BETTER KEBABS?

>> I COULDN'T SAY IT BETTER.

Stephen: ALL RIGHT.

HOW DID THIS ULTIMATELY SHAKE

OUT?

LET ME TRANSLATE THAT FOR YOU?

WHEN CAN I STOP CARING ABOUT

TURKEY AGAIN?

>> I THINK IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS

WE'LL SEE CONTINUING

POLARIZATION.

IT JUST CALLED ON ITS SUPPORTERS

TO HAVE A BIG RALLY NEXT WEEK IN

ISTANBUL.

DON'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU SEE

ONE MILLION ERDOGAN SUPPORTERS

IN THE STREETS.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED.

PROFESSOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

JOINING ME.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]

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