Ashton Kutcher

  • Aired:  08/07/13
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"Jobs" star Ashton Kutcher talks about Steve Jobs' innovative mind, brutal honesty and personal history. (6:01)

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK.

MY GUEST TONIGHT PLAYS THE

COFOUNDER OF APPLE COMPUTERS.

IT'S A LOT LIKE THE BILL GATES

BIOPICK, BUT SLEEKER AND TWICE

THE PRICE.

PLEASE WELCOME ARCHTON KUTCHER.

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).

ASHTON, HEY.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING ON THE SHOW

LAST NIGHT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen: YOU'RE AN

IMPRESSIVE GUY, OKAY.

ACTOR, PRODUCER.

YOU'RE A BIT OF A TECH

ENTREPRENEUR.

YOU HELP FUND SPODDIFY, AIR B &

B, AND IN 2009 BECAME THE FIRST

TWITTER USER TO HIT ONE MILLION

FOLLOWERS.

IS THAT--

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

NOW YOU'RE PLAYING STEVE JOBS IN

THE "BIOPICK JOBS," OPENS AUGUST

16.

HOW-- ARE YOU A FAN OF JOBS?

DID YOU COME AT THIS AS A SUPER

FAN OF A TECH GENIUS?

>> I CAME AS A ADMIRER OF HIS

WORK, AND I HAD A LOT OF FRIENDS

IN THE TECH INDUSTRY THAT KNEW

HIM AND LOVED HIM AND WORKED FOR

HIM, WERE BERATED BY HIM, BUT

FELT HE DEFINITELY MADE THEM

BETTER.

( LAUGHTER ).

>> Stephen: THAT BERATED

THING I LIKE.

>> YEAH.

>> Stephen: THAT INSPIRES

PEOPLE.

>> YES, IT DOES.

I KIND OF THINK HE WAS LIKE A

GREAT FOOTBALL COACH.

I HAD A FOOTBALL COACH IN HIGH

SCHOOL, HE WAS ALSO MY UNCLE,

WHICH WAS A LITTLE WEIRD--

( LAUGHTER )

HE USED TO ABUSE ME VERBALLY,

CONSISTENTLY, CONSTANTLY --

>> Stephen: NAIK NAME?

DID HE CALL YOU A NICKNAME?

>> ( BLEEP ).

>> Stephen: SO THAT'S

ENDEARING, ( BLEEP )?

>> WHEN HE WANTED TO BE KIND.

HE REALLY PUSHED ME, AND I THINK

HE MADE ME BETTER.

AND I THINK PEOPLE THAT HAD THE

CAPABILITY TO TAKE STEVE JOBS'

BRUTAL HONESTY, HE MADE THEM

BETTER.

>> Stephen: OKAY, WE HAVE A

LITTLE CLIP OF THE MOVIE HERE.

JIMMY, CAN YOU SHOW THAT?

>> YOUR BIG BALD BRAIN WANTED

SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T EXIST, SO

YOU JUST WILLED IT INTO

EXISTENCE.

>> WHAT DO YOU CALL THE SYSTEM,

THE OPERATING SYSTEM.

>> OPERATING SYSTEM.

>> IT'S A REALTIME DISPLAY OF

CURRENT OPERATIONS.

>> YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE

WORKING ON WHILE YOU'RE WORKING

ON IT.

>> OKAY.

>> THIS IS FREEDOM.

THIS IS FREEDOM TO CREATE AND TO

DO AND TO BUILD AND-- AND

ARTISTS, INDIVIDUALS.

>> LOOK, YOU'RE OVER-REACTING.

EVEN IF YOU WERE DEVELOPING THIS

FOR FREAKS LIKE US-- AND I DOUBT

ARE YOU-- NOBODY WANTS TO BUY A

COMPUTER, NOBODY!

>> HOW DOES SOMEBODY KNOW WHAT

THEY WANT IF THEY'VE NEVER SEEN

SEEN IT?

( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )

>> Stephen: DID YOU HAVE TO

LIKE HIM TO DO THIS PART?

BECAUSE I HEAR-- I'M NOT AN

ACTOR, BUT I HEAR THAT ACTORS

HAVE TO FIND A LITTLE BIT OF

THEMSELVES IN THE PERSON THAT

THEY'RE PORTRAYING.

( LAUGHTER )

AND IF HE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A

DICK, DID YOU HAVE TO FIND A

LITTLE DICK IN YOU?

>> WELL, YOU CAN'T JUDGE YOUR

CHARACTER.

UN, YOU KNOW, STEVE JOBS, EVEN

THOUGH HE WAS LIKE A LUMINARY

AND THIS BRILLIANT GENIUS, HE

WAS ALSO A PERSON AND HE HAD

FLAWS AND HE HAD SCARS AND HE.

PERSONAL WOUNDS.

WHEN HE WAS A KID HE WAS

ADOPTED.

AND I THINK WHEN HE FOUND OUT,

HE FELT VERY REJECTED BY HIS

BIRTH PARENTS.

AND THEN HE WAS REJECTED BY THE

VERY COMPANY THAT HE CREATED

WHEN APPLE FIRED HIM.

SO I THINK THE WAY THAT HE

SOUGHT LOVE AND APPRECIATION WAS

THROUGH THE PRODUCTS THAT HE

BUILT.

AND I THINK THAT HE WAS SUCH A

PERFECTIONIST AND SO DRIVEN TO

ACTUALLY MAKE SOMETHING THAT

PEOPLE LOVED AND APPRECIATED AND

MAKE THE CONSUMERS HAPPY, THAT

THE WAY HE RECEIVED LOVE, IF

THEY LOVED THE PRODUCT, IT MEANT

THAT THEY LOVED HIM.

AND TO ME, ONCE I FOUND THAT

CHORD IN THE CHARACTER, I WAS

ABLE TO SYMPATHIZE WITH HIM

BEING AIBILITY OF A DICK.

( LAUGHTER ).

>> Stephen: HIS EMOTIONAL

STATE COULD HAVE BEEN PEG TO THE

STOCK PRICE.

IF THE COMPANY WAS DOING WELL,

HE WAS DOING WELL?

>> I THINK THAT THAT'S THE OTHER

THING THAT MADE HIM EXTREMELY

INNOVATIVE.

HE UNDERSTOOD THAT HE DIDN'T

HAVE TO BE BEHOLDEN TO THE

STOCKHOLDERS.

IF HE BUILT A COMPANY AND BUILT

INNOVATIVE PRODUCTS THAT

CONSUMERS LOVED AND APPRECIATED

AND HE DID IT INTELLIGENT

INTELTLY BY VERTICALLY

INTEGRATING ALL THE HARDWARE OF

APPLE WITH THE iPOD AND

IPHONE AND THOSE THINGS, I

THINK WHAT HE UNDERSTOOD IS IF

HE MADE A GREAT PRODUCT THAT

PEOPLE LOVE, THAT THE EFFECTIVE

THAT WOULD BE THAT HE WOULD HAVE

HAPPY STOCKHOLDERS.

>> Stephen: WOW.

YOU'RE THROWING ME OFF A LITTLE

BIT HERE.

( LAUGHTER )

NO OFFENSE, NO OFFENSE.

OKAY.

BUT YOU'RE KNOWN FOR PLAYING NOT

THE SMARTEST CHARACTER.

( LAUGHTER )

( APPLAUSE )

OKAY?

YOU'RE COMING OFF AS SMART RIGHT

NOW.

YOU'RE COMING OFF AS SMART.

>> I CAN BRING THIS ALL BACK.

I CAN BRING IT ALL BACK.

>> Stephen: YOU'RE PLAYING,

LIKE, THIS GENIUS, AND FROM WHAT

I UNDERSTAND FROM THAT

DOCUMENTARY I SAW, YOU CAN'T

FIND YOUR CAR.

( LAUGHTER )

( APPLAUSE )

DID YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO

TALK TO JOBS HIMSELF?

DID YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO

MEET HIM?

>> BECAUSE I WORK WITH A LOT OF

YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS THAT ARE

DEVELOPERS BUILDING ON APPLE'S

PLATFORM FOR A LONG TIME, I GOT

INVITED TO GO TO THEIR WORLDWIDE

DEVELOPERS CONFERENCE TO MEET

STEVE BUT I WAS WORKING ON "TWO

AND A HALF MEN" THAT DAY AND I

COULDN'T GO.

I THINK WHEN HE PASSED AWAY, I

REALIZED THAT I HAD A CHANCE TO

MEET THE LEONARDO DA VINCI OF

OUR DAY, A GUY WHO WAS A TRUE

ARTIST AND TRUE INVENTOR AND

INNOVATOR, AND I MISSED IT.

SO WHEN I READ THIS SCRIPT, I

THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT

OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW A MAN

THAT ADMIRED.

( APPLAUSE )

>> Stephen: WELL, ARTON, GOOD

LUCK.

THE MOVIE IS "JOBS" AUGUST