Daniel Bergner

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"What Do Women Want?" author Daniel Bergner explains that women may be just as promiscuous as men. (5:43)

>> HEY, WELCOME BACK,

EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS A "NEW

YORK TIMES" MAGAZINE WRITER

WITH A NEW BOOK CALL WAD DO

WOMEN WANT?

IS THAT MEL GIBSON MOVIE WAS

RIGHT IT'S DRUNKEN

ANTI-SEMITES.

PLEASE WELCOME DANIEL

BERGNER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

WHAT'S UP, MR. BERGNER, GOOD

TO SEE YOU.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP FOR

ME.

YOU ARE AUTHOR AND

CONTRIBUTING WRITER FOR "THE

NEW YORK TIMES" MAGAZINE AND

YOU GOT A NEW BOOK HERE

CALLED, WHAT DO WOMEN WANT,

ADVENTURES IN THE SCIENCE OF

FEMALE DESIRE.

FIRST OF ALL, OKAY, FIRST OF

ALL, WHAT DOES SCIENCE OR

SCIENTISTS KNOW ABOUT FEMALE

DESIRE, ALL RIGHT?

IT'S ALL MYSTERIOUS.

IT'S ALL INTUITION.

IT'S ALL SHROUDED IN MYSTERY

AND FLOWERS AND PERFUME,

RIGHT?

IT'S UNDELL OFABLE.

>> SCIENCE IS TRYING NOW TO

PULL BACK THAT SOCIETAL VEIL,

PULL BACK ALL THAT UNDELL OF

ABILITY AND GET AT SOME

TRUTH.

AND SO HERE'S ONE.

WHEN IT COMES TO SEX,

MONOGAMY MAY BE MUCH MORE OF

A PROBLEM FOR WOMEN THAN FOR

MEN.

>> Stephen: WHAT YOU TALKING

ABOUT?

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>> WE'VE LONG BEEN TAUGHT AS

YOU KNOW MEN PROGRAMMED BY

EVOLUTION TO BE PROMISCUOUS.

>> Stephen: YES, EXACTLY,

SPREADING THEIR SEED AS

WIDELY AS POSSIBLE.

>> AN WOMEN TO BE MORE

GEARED TOWARD ONE GOOD MAN.

>> Stephen: WOMEN ARE BETTER

THAN MEN ARE.

SEE?

SEE.

I JUST GOT A VALIDATION.

>> WHAT ABOUT THAT THEORY

WHERE WOMEN ARE BETTER

SUITED TO MONOGAMY IS TOO

CONVENIENT AND COMFORTING

FOR MEN.

I THINK SCIENCE-- .

>> Stephen: WHAT?

>> BECAUSE WE GET TO SIT

BACK, WE GET TO LET OUR EYES

AND THOUGHTS ROAM A BIT AND

BE COMFORTABLE THAT OUR

WOMEN ARE REALLY OKAY ABOUT

THIS MONOGAMOUS SITUATION.

SCIENCE IS TELLING US

SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT.

>> Stephen: BUDDY, BUDDY,

WOULD YOU LOOK ANYWHERE ELSE?

>> THAT'S SCIENCE.

>> THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS AND

NO DOUBT IF I HAVE THE

COLBERT-- BUT HERE'S WHAT

THE REST OF US ARE DEALING

WITH.

SO MEREDITH SHIVERS,

FASCINATING SCIENTISTS

COMPARE WAG WOMEN SAY TURNS

THEM ON VERSUS-- VERSUS WHAT

THEIR BODIES WITH A LITTLE

DEVICE-- ABISMOGRAPH.

>> Stephen: WHAT DOES IT DO.

>> IT IS A LIGHT SENSE THEIR

GOES INTO THE NETHER REGIONS,

WE SAY.

>> Stephen: WHERE THE LIGHT

OF SCIENCE DON'T SHINE.

>> IT MEASURES, HERE IS WHAT

SHE FOUND.

ONE AMONG MEN EXAMPLES.

SO VERY HANDSOME STRANGER

VERSUS VERY HANDSOME AND OF

COURSE TRUSTED CLOSE FRIEND.

WOMEN SAY TRUSTED CLOSE

FRIEND TURNS THEM ON MORE.

WOMEN'S BODIES SAY SOMETHING

VERY, VERY DIFFERENT.

EXCEPT, OF COURSE WHEN

STEPHEN COLBERT IS THE

TRUSTED FRIEND.

>> Stephen: YES.

>> HERE IS ANOTHER FUNNY

EXAMPLE.

>> Stephen: SO FAR THIS

ISN'T FUNNY TO ME.

IT'S VERY UPSETTING.

>> IT'S WORRISOME.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU JUST

LYING TO UP SET ME?

OR MAYBE YOU JUST WROTE THIS

BOOK TO GET OVER A BAD

BREAKUP.

>> I HAVE BEEN-- .

>> Stephen: WHAT IS THIS

BASED ON, REAL SCIENCE.

>> INCREASING WORRY BUT

THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL ISSUE

AS A MAN BUT LET ME JUST GET

BACK TO ONE-- SO MOSTLY

WOMEN IN THIS BOOK BUT ONE

DETOUR TOWARD MONKEYS, ARE

CLOSE ANCESTORS LONG THOUGHT

BY SCIENTISTS THAT MALE

MONKEYS, THE AGGRESSORS AND

ALWAYS PARTICULARLY

SEXUALLY, YOU TAKE AGAIN THE

BLINDERS OFF, THE

ASSUMPTIONS PUSHED ASIDE,

WHICH SCIENCE IS SHOWING US

IS NO, ACTUALLY IT'S THE

FEMALE MONKEYS WHO ARE THE

INITIATORS.

THE FEMALE MONKEYS WHO ARE

DOING THE OBJECTIFYING OF

THEIR OBJECTS OF DESIRE.

>> Stephen: WAIT A SECOND,

THEY TAUGHT MONKEYS ABOUT

MONEY, BASICALLY.

THEY GAVE THEM LIKE PILLS

THAT WERE WORTH FOOD AND

BONOBO TURNED IT IMMEDIATELY

INTO A PROSTITUTION ECONOMY

BUT IT WAS-- THEY DID.

BUT IT WAS THE MALE MONKEYS

GIVING IT TO THE FEMALE

MONKEYS T WASN'T THE FEMALE

MONKEYS GOING I WILL GIVE

AWAY MY FOOD FOR SEX.

THE MALE MONKEYS WERE GIVING

AWAY THE FOOD FOR SEX.

>> AND AGAIN, SO COMFORTING

TO THINK THAT BUT I-- .

>> Stephen: I DON'T BUY THAT

COMFORTING.

>> ONE FEMALE CHARACTER IN

MY BOOK, THE FEMALE MONKEY

ACTUALLY THIS IS HER MAIN

GESTURE IN LIFE.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT

MEANS SERVE ME NOW.

SO THE MALE MONKEY.

>> Stephen: REALLY?

>> YEAH, AND THE

PRIMATOLOGIST I SPENT TIME

WITH, EVERY THREE YEARS HE

HAS TO SWITCH OUT THE MALE

MONKEYS.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE THEY ARE

EXHAUSTED.

>> THE FEMALE MONKEYS ARE

TOO BORED TO HAVE SEX WITH

THEM ANY MORE, THEY NEED A

NEW BATCH.

>> Stephen: OH, OH.

>> YEAH, EXACTLY.

OVER AND OVER WHAT WE ARE

SEEING DESPITE WHAT SORT OF

EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY HAS

TAUGHT US ABOUT THOSE MEN

BEING PROMISCUOUS, WOMEN NOT,

IS WOMEN ARE EQUALLY

INTERESTED.

YOU STIP A-- STRIP AWAY THE

DANGER AND STIGMA IN CASUAL

SEX, AND OVER AND OVER YOU

SEE THESE EXAMPLES OF KIND

OF RAW OR RAWER PORTRAIT OF

FEMALE SEXUALITY THEN WE

HAVE BEEN WILLING TO SEE

BEFORE.

I THINK WE HAVE A BIT OF A

FEAR.

>> Stephen: AND HOW LONG

WILL IT TAKE ME TO FORGET

WHAT YOU TOLD ME TONIGHT.

>> THAT DEPENDS ON YOUR

POWERS OF FORGETTING.

>> Stephen: YOUR NAME IS

AGAIN?

DANIEL BERGNER,

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

WITH DISTURBING REVELATIONS

OF WHAT DO WOMEN WANT.

WE KNOW, WE'LL BE RIGHT

BACK.

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