Robert Lustig

  • Aired:  03/28/13
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The pediatric endocrinologist shares his book, "Fat Chance: Beating the Odds Against Sugar, Processed Food, Obesity, and Disease." (5:19)

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS ON A NATIONWIDE CREW SIDE AGAINST SUGAR.

NEXT A BRUTAL CRACKDOWN ON SPICE AND EVERYTHING NICE.

PLEASE WELCOME DR. ROBERT LUSTIG.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON.

>> MY PLEASURE.

>> Stephen: LET'S GET YOUR CV OUT HERE QUICK.

YOU ARE A PEDIATRIC ENDOCRINOLOGIST WHO HAS SPENT THE PAST 15 YEARS TREATING CHILDHOOD OBESEITS.

YOU HAVE A BOOK CALLED FAT CHANCE, BEATING THE ODDS AGAINST SUGAR, PROCESSED FOOD, OBESITY

AND DISEASE.

WHAT IS YOUR BEEF WITH SUGAR?

>> IF SUGAR WERE JUST EMPTY CALORIES, THEN THE FOOD INDUSTRY, THE INSTITUTE OF

MEDICINE, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH, THE SURGEON GENERAL AND EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD BE RIGHT TO.

BE PART OF A BALANCED DIET YOU GET DISCRETIONARY SUGAR, NO PROBLEM.

>> Stephen: IT IS.

>> A CALORIE IS NOT A CALORIE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE.

>> Stephen: THOSE ARE EXPERTS.

SMART GUYS WITH LETTERS AFTER THEIR NAMES JUST LIKE YOU DO.

WHY ARE YOU RIGHT AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG?

WE'LL TAKE ONE EXAMPLE.

ALCOHOL.

>> Stephen: ALL THE TIME.

[ LAUGHTER ]

>> ALL RIGHT.

AND I DO, TOO BUT IN LOW DOSE.

>> Stephen: SURE, ABSOLUTELY SLOW DRIP.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

INFUSE IT JUST ENOUGH SO THAT --

>> Stephen: GETS YOU THERE, BABY.

THAT LITTLE CLICK.

>> ALCOHOL ARE NOT EMPTY CALORIES.

THEY ARE TOXIC CALORIES.

WHY?

FRIES YOUR LIVER.

SO DOES SUGAR.

WE'VE DONE TWO LIVER TRANSPLANTS AN 15-YEAR-OLD SODA DRINKERS AT UCSF.

>> Stephen: YOU CALL SUGAR A POISON.

>> IN HIGH DOSE.

>> Stephen: WHY NOT A MORE ALARMING TERM LIKE SUGAR IS HITLER.

THESE TWO KIDS ARE OUTLIERS IT'S TRAGIC.

THEY ARE OUTLIERS.

>> NO THEY ARE NOT.

32% OF AMERICA HAS NONALCOHOLIC FATTY LIVER DISEASE.

>> Stephen: IF WE HAVE THAT IT MEANS WE'RE EVEN MORE ELITE AS PEOPLE.

WE'RE TRY TURNING OURSELVES INTO FOIE GRAS.

>> EXACTLY.

>> Stephen: WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER.

>> THE WAY YOU MAKE FOIE GRAS IS BY FEEDING THE ANIMAL CARBOHYDRATES, SPECIFICALLY SUGAR.

>> Stephen: IF I DON'T EAT THE SUGAR I WILL NEVER DIE.

>> YOU MIGHT LIVE LONGER AND THAT'S WHAT THE DATA SHOWS.

WE'RE AWASH IN THE STUFF.

THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION SAYS WE CURRENTLY CONSUME 22 TEASPOONS OF SUGAR PER DAY,

AVERAGE FOR AMERICA.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO REDUCE THAT TO 6-9.

BECAUSE OF HALF OF SUGAR WE CONSUME IS FOODS WE DON'T KNOW HAD IT LIKE SALAD DRESSING.

TOMATO SAUCE.

HAMBURGER MEAT, ASK TACO BELL.

>> Stephen: HAMBURGER MEAT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen: THAT'S WHY IT'S SO GOOD.

>> THEY KNOW WHEN THEY PUT IT IN YOU BUY MORE.

IT'S CALLED ADDICTION.

>> Stephen: I WANTED TO MAINLINE TACO MEAT.

>> I'M SURE YOU HAVE.

>> Stephen: IT'S ALL SUGAR.

I HEAR THAT HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP HAS A COUPLE OF SKULL AND CROSS BONES.

>> ALL THE DATA SHOWS HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP IS THE SAME.

THE PROBLEM IS IT'S CHEAPER.

IT MADE SUGAR CHEAPER AND THEREFORE IT STARTED APPEARING IN ALL SORTS OF FOODS.

>> Stephen: HIGH FRIEWK HE IS TO CORN SYRUP IT'S NATURAL.

LIKE PARSLEY OR HEMLOCK.

IT'S A NATURAL GROWING THING.

IT DOES EXACTLY WHAT THE NATURAL SUGAR DOES, TOO.

THERE ARE 56 NAMES FOR SUGAR YOU DON'T KNOW THEM.

>> Stephen: HAD YOU DO YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW THEM.

MAYBE I'M AN ESKIMO OF SUGAR.

I HAVE 56 NAMES FOR SNOW.

>> MAYBE YOU DO.

THE REST OF THE COUNTRY DOESN'T AND THEY ARE BUYING IT AND THEY DON'T KNOW IT.

>> Stephen: DR.S BUT -- DR.

BUZZ KILL.

>> YOU GAVE ME THAT NAME.

>> Stephen: YOU THROW AROUND THE WORD PROCESSED FOOD.

>> THEY TAKE THE FIBER OUT FOR SHELF LIFE.

FINE FIBER IS GOOD FOUR.

IT REDUCES HOW FAST THE STUFF IN YOUR INTESTINES IS ABSORBS AND IT KEEPS YOUR LIVER SAFE

STEEFNLG THAT'S WHAT THE BOX IS FOR FIBER.

>> THE WRAPPER HAS MORE HEALTH BENEFITS USUALLY THAN THE FOOD DOES.

REALLY.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

>> Stephen: SO WHAT ARE THE MORE NUTRITIOUS WRAPPERS I SHOULD BE FEEDING MY CHILDREN?

DOCTOR,ING THANK YOU SO MUCH -- DOCTOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME.

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