Anthony Everitt

  • Aired:  10/24/12
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Historian Anthony Everitt talks about Rome's initial lack of culture, brutal empire conquests and his favorite ruler, Julius Caesar. (6:06)

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

MY GUEST TONIGHT IS AN EXPERT ON

ANCIENT ROMAN CULTURE.

I'LL ASK WHICH IS BETTER:

DOMINO'S OR PAPA JOHN'S.

PLEASE WELCOME ANTHONY EVERITT.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOININGING

ME.

CIRCUMSTANCE YOU'VE WRITTEN

EXTENSIVELY ON ANCIENT ROME.

YOU WROTE THE BOOK CICERO,

AUGUSTOUS, AND YOUR NEW BOOK IS

CALLED "THE RISE OF ROME, THE

MAKING OF THE WORLD'S GREATEST

EMPIRE."

WHY IS THE ROME THE WORLD'S

GREATEST EMPIRE?

AREN'T WE THE GREATEST EMPIRE

RIGHT NOW?

>> YOU ARE ON THE WAY.

YOU ARE THE NEW ONE.

>> STEPHEN: THANK YOU.

THAT'S A COMPLIMENT.

IS THAT A COMPLIMENT?

>> WELL, IT MIGHT BE A

COMPLIMENT.

THE ROMANS WERE TIRESOME PEOPLE?

>> STEPHEN: TIRESOME?

>> THEY WERE BRUTAL.

THEY WEREN'T VERY CULTURED.

THEY KNEW THEY DIDN'T HAVE A

CULTURE SO THEY WENT TO GREECE.

>> STEPHEN: WE TOOK YOUR

CULTURE WHEN WE STOLE HARRY

POTTER FROM YOU GUYS.

>> YES.

[ LAUGHTER ]

>> STEPHEN: YOU GUYS ARE

GREECE TO OUR ROME.

>> I HAVEN'TING FOR GIVEN YOU

FOR THAT.

>> STEPHEN: EMPIRES DON'T

CARE.

YOU USED TO HAVE AN EMPIRE.

>> WE HAD IT FOR 10 MINUTES.

YOU'VE HIT FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THE ROAMENTANS HAD IT FOR 1,000

YEARS.

>> STEPHEN: WHAT DID THEY DO

RIGHT?

>> WHEN THEY WENT AND BEAT

SOMEBODY UP AND DEFEATED THEM

THEY SAID, RIGHT.

THAT'S OVER.

WE'VE WON.

COME AND JOIN US.

JOIN IN THE ENTERPRISE.

YOU CAN BECOME CITIZENS.

YOU CAN HAVE A SHARE OF BOOTY

BUT WE GO ON FOR THE NEXT WAR.

EVERY TIME THEY HAD A VICTORY,

THEY PRODUCED MORE AND MORE

PEOPLE, GOT THEM ON TO THEIR

SIDE AND SO THE ROMAN EMPIRE WAS

ACTUALLY FULL OF STAKEHOLDERS,

PEOPLE FOR WHOM IT WAS

BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THE EMPIRE.

>> STEPHEN: YOU MAKE THAT

SOUND KIND OF WARM AND FUZZY BUT

THSH --

>> THE JEWS GOT VERY CROSS.

>> STEPHEN: THE JEWS OFTEN GET

CROSS.

BUT THEY ARE A TOUGH PEOPLE.

>> I KNOW.

>> STEPHEN: WHAT DID THE JEWS

DO?

>> THEY REVOLTED BECAUSE THEY

REFUSED TO WORSHIP THE EMPEROR.

>> STEPHEN: DIDN'T HAVE THE

ROMANS HAVE A WAY -- THEY WITH

GO INTO SOME PLACE, -- IF

SOMEBODY IN A VILLAGE KILLED

LIKE A ROMAN SOLDIER, WOULDN'T

THEY GO IN AND CRUCIFY EVERYBODY

IN THE VILLAGE.

>> THEY WOULD, INDEED.

>> STEPHEN: AND THEY INVITE

THE NEXT VILLAGE OVER AND GO YOU

WANT THIS OR DO YOU WANT A ROAD?

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.

>> STEPHEN: I LOVE THAT MOVIE.

IT'S A DOCUMENTARY?

[ LAUGHTER ]

>> IF YOU REFUSED TO JOIN IN, IF

YOU REFUSED TO BECOME PROPER

ROMAN CITIZENS AND JOIN IN THE

NEXT INVASION OF THE NEXT GROUP

OF PEOPLE IF YOU DIDN'T DO THAT,

THERE WAS REAL TROUBLE STEENCHT

WHO WAS YOUR FAVORITE CRAZY

ROMAN EMPEROR.

I'LL START ALAGABALIS.

>> HE WAS IN THE PUBLIC LAUGH

TORY.

>> STEPHEN: HE MAYOR YUD A

VIRGIN, WORSHIPED A METEORITE

AND HE WOULD SMOTHER DINNER

GUESTS IN --

>> MY FAVORITE IS THE FIRST ONE.

HE SET THE SCENE.

JULIUS CAESAR.

HE WASN'T ONLY A POLITICIAN AND

GENIUS HE WAS A VERY GOOD

WRITER.

YES.

>> STEPHEN: THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

DOG-O DOGGERY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOT AT ALL.

CAESAR IS MY FAVORITE BECAUSE HE

WASN'T JUST A MARBLE STATUE IN A

MUSICAL.

HE'S VERY MUCH FLESH AND BLOOD.

>> STEPHEN: HE GOT IT ON WITH

CLEOPATRA.

>> HE ENJOYED SEX.

HE LIKED SHARING WIFES WITH HIS

FRIENDS.

>> STEPHEN: HE WOULD HAVE SEX

WITH THE WIVES OF HIS OPPONENTS?

>> HE DID, YEAH.

THAT'S HOW HE LEARNED THEIR

PLANS.

>> STEPHEN: HE WAS A CASANOVA.

>> AND WHEN HE WAS A YOUNG GUY

HE WAS SCREWED RATHER THAN DOING

THE SCROOGE BY THE KING.

>> Stephen: THE KING HAD SEX

WITH HIM.

>> HE WAS SCREWED INTO THE

GROUND OF MARBLE FLOOR OF

PALACE?

>> STEPHEN: ARE YOU SAYING?

HE WAS BUGGER AS A YOUNG MAN BY

THE KING OF SARDINIA?

>> I DIDN'TCY THAT I SAID

BISSINIA.

>> STEPHEN: I THOUGHT YOU HAD

A LISP.

THEY WERE A SUPERPOWER.

>> THEY WEREN'T TO BEGIN WITH.

AS CATO THE ELDER SAID -- JUST

CHECKING.

>> STEPHEN: OF COURSE, OKAY.

HOW LONG DID ROME LAST?

>> DEPENDS ON HOW YOU START AND

FINISH.

ROME WAS FOUNDED IN 753 B.C. OR

THEREABOUTS FUSM INCLUDE THE

EASTERN HALF HALF OF EMPIRE,

THEY CALLED THEMSELVES ROMANS

THAT WAS 1400 AND SOMETHING WHEN

THE MUSLIMS --

>> STEPHEN: YOU ARE AN

HISTORIAN --

>> I LIKE BEING VAGUE ABOUT

DATES.

>> STEPHEN: I UNDERSTAND.

I WISH YOU HAD BEEN MY TEACHER

IN HIGH SCHOOL.

[ LAUGHTER ]

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH

ANTHONY EVERITT, "THE RISE OF

ROME."

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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