Jane Goodall

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Renowned scientist Jane Goodall discusses her book "Seeds of Hope" and explains why she shifted her research focus from chimpanzees to plant life. (6:20)

>> Stephen: MY GUEST TONIGHTIS A RENOWNED SCIENTIST WHO

DISCOVERED THAT CHIMPS USETOOLS.

PLEASE WELCOME DAME JANEGOODALL!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)DR. GOODALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH

FOR BEING HERE.

IT'S SUCH A PLEASURE TO MEETYOU.

I'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN FASCINATEDWITH YOUR WORK SINCE I WAS JUST

A BOY.

EVERYONE KNOWS YOU AS THECHIMPANZEE EXPERT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Stephen: IF I WERE A CHIMPTHAT YOU WERE MEETING FOR THE

FIRST TIME, WOULD THERE BESOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT YOUR

BODY LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW IF YOUWERE MEETING ME FOR THE FIRST

TIME?

IF YOU WERE TREATING ME LIKE ACHIMP, WHAT WOULD IT BE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> Stephen: WHAT WOULD BE ITBE?

>> DO YOU WANT TO DEMONSTRATE?

YES, I DO.

RIGHT HERE?

DO I STAND OR -->> YOU STAND.

YOU DO AS I WELL YOU.

OKAY?

(LAUGHTER)YOU'RE THE BIG MALE SO YOU'RE

DOMINANT.

YEP, LIKE THAT.

AND I'M A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS OFYOU.

NOW, YOU MUSTN'T MAKE A SOUND,RIGHT?

NO SOUND FROM YOU.

NO, NOTHING.

I MAKE THE SOUND.

SO I JUST GO -- UH, UH, UH, UH,UH -- BUT YOU ACTUALLY LIKE ME,

SO YOU GO UH, UH, UH, UH, UH --(APPLAUSE)

>> ARE WE GOING STEADY NOW?

WE'RE GOING STEADY.

ALL RIGHT.

EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU WORK INTANZANIA AND YOU WORK WITH FLO,

GIGI, FRODO, MIKE AND HUMPHREY.

NOW YOUR BOOK IS CALLED SEEDS OFHOPE, THE WISDOM AND WONDER FROM

THE WORLD OF PLANTS.

WHY GO FROM CHIMPANZEES TOPLANTS?

DID YOU GET BORED?

>> NO.

>> Stephen: YOU'VE SEEN ONE ONROLLER SKATES YOU'VE SEEN THEM

ALL?

>> WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM OFFOF ROLLER SKATES.

>> Stephen: IN THIS JOBMARKET, I WOULDN'T ADVISE IT.

>> I HAD TO LEAVE THE FORESTBECAUSE THE FOREST ACROSS AFRICA

ARE DISAPPEARING AS THEY AREAROUND THE WORLD.

CHIMPANZEE NUMBERS ARE DROPPING.

SO I HAD TO START TALKING ABOUTTHE TERRIBLE THINGS WE'RE DOING

TO THE PLANET.

>> Stephen: WHAT ARE WE DOINGTO THE PLANTS?

HOW ARE WE HURTING THEM?

>> EVERY WAY YOU CAN IMAGINE.

WE'RE DESTROYING THEM BY CUTTINGDOWN THE FORESTS WHICH RELEASES

CO2 WHICH ADDS TO CLIMATECHANGE.

WE ARE TAKING OVER MORE AND MOREECOSYSTEMS FOR OUR DEVELOPMENTS,

OUR BUILDINGS, OUR SUPERMARKETS.

WE'RE MINING DEEP IN THE FOREST,WE'RE MAKING ROADS FOR THE

HUNTERS TO COME KILL THEANIMALS.

>> Stephen: BUT WE PRODUCE ALOT OF CO2 NOW.

DON'T THE PLANTS USE THAT FORFOOD?

AREN'T WE HELPING THE PLANTS ASMUCH AS HURTING THEM?

>> NO.

AT ONE TIME WE LIVED IN HARMONY,BUT NOW BALANCE, WE'RE RELEASING

FOSSIL FUELS, CUTTING DOWNFORESTS, ADDING TO GREENHOUSE

GASES.

LOOK AT THE CLIMATE.

WE'VE HAD THE WORST WINTER INEASTERN NORTH AMERICA, THE

WETTEST WINTER IN ENGLAND. IPASSED FIELDS WHERE SWANS WERE

FLOATING. THAT SOUNDS BEAUTIFUL.

IT'S NOT SO BEAUTIFUL IF YOU'REA FARMER.

NOT REALLY.

>> Stephen: HERE'S THE THINGTHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT YOUR NEW

STUDIES IS THE THINGS YOU WEREDOING BEFORE WITH CHIMPANZEES,

YOU WERE SEEING THEM ASINDIVIDUALS AND HAVING EMPATHY

FOR THEM.

AM I GOING TO HAVE EMPATHY FORPLANTS NOW?

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO FEELGUILTY WHEN I'M, YOU KNOW,

CHOWING DOWN ON AN EAR OF CORNTHIS SUMMER.

>> YOU'LL PROBABLY BE CHEWING ONGENETICALLY MODIFIED CORN

WHICH MIGHT NOT BE GOOD FORYOU IN THE LONG RUN.

SOME OF THESE TREES, WHEN YOUMEET 2,000-YEAR-OLD TREES AND

YOU THINK, MY GOODNESS! WHATHAS IT SEEN? HOW AMAZING!

YOU PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE BARKWITH THE SAP GOING OFF OF IT --

>> Stephen: JANE GOODALL, AREYOU TRYING TO MAKE ME CRY ABOUT

TREES?

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)YOU LEARNED EXTRAORDINARY THINGS

ABOUT CHIMPANZEES, THAT THEY'RETOOL USERS.

IN FACT, LET'S TAKE A LOOK ATTHIS LITTLE CLIP THERE.

>> THE CHIMPANZEE IS MODIFYINGAN OBJECT TO SUIT IT TO A

SPECIFIC PURPOSE, THUS MAKING ATOOL.

LEWIS GOT EXTREMELY EXCITED ANDSAID WE HAVE TO REDEFINE MAN,

TOOLS OR INCLUDE CHIMPANZEESWITH HUMANS.

>> Stephen: LOOKS LIKE THATCHIMP IS LAUGHING AT US.

>> PROBABLY IS.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU ONE OFTHOSE PEOPLE -- AND WHAT WORRIES

ME ABOUT THAT CLIP, ARE YOU ONEOF THOSE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVES IN

THIS EVOLUTION GAME?

(LAUGHTER)ALL YOUR YEARS OF LIVING WITH

CHIMPS, DID YOU SEE ONE OF THEMEVOLVE INTO A MAN?

FALL OUT OF A TREE, HAIR COMESOFF, PUTS ON A TIE, HE'S A MAN?

JUST ONE, AND I'M ON BOARD.

>> NO.

>> Stephen: EVER HAPPEN?

I'M AFRAID YOU WILL NEVER BEABLE TO JOIN ME ON THIS BAND

WAGON.

>> Stephen: OH, WELL, THAT'STOO BAD.

>> THAT'S TOO BAD.

>> Stephen: BECAUSE WE'REGOING STEADY.

>> WELL, YOU JUST BLEW IT.

(CHEERING)>> Stephen: JANE GOODALL,

"SEEDS OF HOPE."WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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