Alexis Ohanian

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"Without Their Permission" author Alexis Ohanian discusses Reddit, crowdfunding and the value of a free and open Internet. (6:05)

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,EVERYBODY, MY GUEST TONIGHT,

THE CO-FOUNDER OF THE SOCIALNEWS SIGHT, HE'S GOT CALLED

RED IF.

HE HAS A NEW BOOK AND IHAVEN'T READ IT.

PLEASE WELCOME ALEXIS OHANDIAN.

ALEXIS, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING ON.

WE MET A COUPLE TIMESBEFORE.

>> YES.

>> COULDN'T DRESS UP.

>> I SEE, I SPUT ON ASWAKET.

>> Stephen: WHAT IS THAT.

>> A SWEATER JACKET.

THAT IS HOW I WAS TOLD TODRESS.

I'M WISE, I LISTEN MYGIRLFRIEND.

>> Stephen: NOW BESIDESBEING SORT OF AN EARLY

INTERNET WONDERKIN WITHBEING CO-FOUNDER OF RED T

EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS.

I HAVE EXPLAINED IT ON THESHOW BEFORE AND PEOPLE THAT

ARE ON IT THE NEXT DAY GOTHAT IS NOT WHAT RED IT IS.

WHAT IS RED IT.

>> IS A PLATFORM FOR ON-LINECOMMUNITITES TO SHARE LINKS

AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUTWHAT IS NEW AND INTERESTING

ON THE INTERNET.

>> Stephen: YEAH, THAT'S MYPROBLEM WITH IT.

THIS IS MY PROBLEM WITH READIT.

MY PROBLEM IS THAT THEREUSED TO BE A TIME WHEN THERE

WAS A CLASS OF CULTURAL CASEMAKERS LIKE MYSELF WHO TOLD

YOU WHAT THE MOST IMPORTANTTHING WAS TO READ OR SEE

TODAY.

WHEREAS ON READ IT EVERYBODYGETS TO POST AND EVERYBODY

GETS A VOTE, EVERYBODY GETSTO GOIAY,-- YAY, AND YOU

KNOW WHAT I SAY TO THAT?

I SAY OOOH.

OKAY.

WHY SHOULD EVERYBODY GET AVOTE AS TO WHAT WE SHOULD

ALL BE RAEBDING.

THAT IS CULTURAL SOCIALISM.

>> I LIKE TO THINK OF IT ASA LITTLE BIT OF DEMOCRACY

ON-LINE, THE IDEA THAT ANYONE OF US HAS A GREAT IDEA

WORTH SHARING OR AN OPINIONWORTH HEARING IS SORT OF

BAKED INTO HOW THAT PLATFORMWORKS AND HOW THIS COUNTRY

WORKS.

>> BUT ON READ IT YOU DON'THAVE TO BE A CERTAIN AGE,

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE APROPERTY OWNER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PASS ALITERACY TEST, ALL THE

THINGS WE LOOK FOR IN OURDEMOCRACY.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, WE WANTEDIT TO BE AS OPEN AS

POSSIBLE.

AND THE HOPE IS MORE PEOPLEWHO OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAVE

HAD ACCESS NOW CAN.

AND WHO CAN NOW SHARE THEIRIDEAS WHO WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN

ABLE TO BEFORE.

>> Stephen: OKAY, SPEAKINGOF SHARING IDEA, YOU ARE

SHARING IDEAS IN A NEW BOOK.

IT'S CALLED WITHOUT THEIRPERMISSION.

OKAY.

WHAT IS IT YOU ARE DOINGWITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION AND

WHO IS THEY?

>> IT IS THE GATEKEEPERS, ITIS THIS IDEA THAT ON-LINE WE

HAVE THIS THING CALLEDPERMISSIONLESS INNOVATION.

THE IDEA THAT ANYBODY WITH AGREAT IDEA CAN SHARE IT WITH

THE WORLD, WHETHER IT IS ABUSINESS OR A NONPROFIT OR

AN ART PROJECT OR ACTIVISM.

AND THAT MEANS WE GET TOSURFACE MORE IDEAS AND

CREATIVITY FROM MORE PEOPLEWHO DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH

GATEKEEPERS.

>> Stephen: DON'TGATEKEEPERS TELL US WHAT IS

GOOD AND BAD?

>> GATEKEEPERS SOMETIMES GETIT RIGHT.

JON STEWART HAD A GOODCHOICE BRINGING YOU ON

BOARD.

>> Stephen: I WAS AT THEDAILY SHOW BEFORE HE WAS BUT

GO AHEAD.

>> Stephen: WHATEVER,WHATEVER, THAT'S NOT A KNOCK,

THAT'S JUST A FACT.

>> THE HOPE IS WITH APLATFORM LIKE READ IT OR THE

INTERNET WE GET TO HEAR FROMMORE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY

OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAVEGOTTEN THE GOOD FORTUNE OF

FINDING THE RIGHT GATEKEEPERAT THE RIGHT TIME.

>> Stephen: SO IF I WANTEDTO DO AN INTERNET START UP,

WHAT DO YOU DO?

I KNOW YOU START AND THAT ISWHERE YOU START, YOU START

ON-LINE.

THE LAST THING YOU DID YOUSELL IT TO GOOGLE FOR $4

BILLION.

WHAT DO YOU DO IN BETWEEN.

HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TOFUND YOU ON THE INTERNET,

CAN YOU USE THE INTERNET TOFUND YOU ON THE INTERNET?

>> YOU KNOW IT SOUNDSRIDDICK LOSE BUT IT'S A AZ

MAGAZINE.

WITH-- WE ARE SEEING MOREAND MORE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND

ME WHO ARE GOING TO HELPTHEIR FELLOW AMERICANS WITH

GREAT IDEAS.

>> Stephen: THAT WOULD BEYOU THEN.

>> THERE ARE MORE OF THESECROWD FUNDING PLATFORMS THAT

LET SOMEONE WITH A GREATIDEA TO RAISE FUNDING, KICK

STARTER IS AN ON VIEWS ONE.

IN THE LAST YEAR MORE MONEYHAS GONE THROUGH THAT FOR

ART PROGRAMS THAN THROUGHTHE NATIONAL

ENDURE-- ENDOWMENT OF THEARTS.

>> Stephen: MORE DOLLARS.

>> MORE DOLLARS, YES.

>> Stephen: HAVE WE REACHEDTHE DREAM OF KILLING THE

NEA?

>> I DON'T THINK-- THEY'RENOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

I LIKE KNOWING WE GET TOLIVE IN A WORLD WHERE

SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO MAKE ACHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE OF

HAMLET CAN GET A BOOKPUBLISHED THANKS TO THE

INTERNET AND A BFERJ OFPEOPLE.

>> Stephen: DID THAT HAPPEN.

>> IT DID, IT RAISED OVER$600,000 FOR THAT BOOK.

>> Stephen: WHAT HAPPENS INTO HAMLET IN THIS TIME.

>> IT'S SOMETHING YOUCHOOSE-- YOU CHOOSE WHATEVER

ADVENTURE YOU LIKE.

YOU COULD TAKE D I MEAN ICAN'T POSSIBLY TELL YOU ALL

THE OPTIONS, YOU HAVE TOREAD THE BOOK.

BUT THERE ARE MANY.

>> Stephen: IT'S A SADSTORY.

>> YOU CAN HAVE IT TURN OUTBETTER.

>> Stephen: REALLY, YOU CANHAVE A HAPPY HAMLET?

>> YES, LIKE OPHELIA LIVESAND-- IS NOT HIDING BEHIND

THE CURTAIN AND ALL THATKIND OF STUFF.

>> AND WHAT IS SO EXCITING.

>> Stephen: TO BE OR NOT TOBE, DEFINITELY TO BE.

NOW WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSIONARE YOU RIGHT NOW ON A FIVE

MONTH BUS TOUR TO PROMOTEINTERNET ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> Stephen: WOULDN'T THEREBE AN EASIER WAY TO DO THAT

SAY ON THE INTERNET?

>> TOUCHE.

>> Stephen: I DON'T SPEAKSPANISH OR WHATEVER.

>> I WANTED AN EXCUSE TORENT A BUS AND A T-SHIRT

CANON AND VISIT 77UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE

COUNTRY BECAUSE MY FELLOWMILLENNIALS ARE THE ONES WHO

WILL BE ABLE TO DO ALL OFTHIS AMAZING STUFF.

BECAUSE IT IS NOT UNTIL ICAN ACTUALLY GET IF FRONT OF

THEM AND HOPEFULLY GIVE THEMTHE LECTURE I WISH I HAD AS

AN UNDERGRAD THAT WILLGALVANIZE THEM.

>> Stephen: WHAT IS IT, GIVETHE LECTURE, BOIL IT DOWN TO

TEN WORDS WHAT IS THE THING,BECAUSE I'M-- US MILLENNIALS

NEED TO HEAR IT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, ON AN INTERNETWE'RE ALL LINKS ARE CREATED

EQUAL.

YOU CAN TAKE A GREAT IDEAAND YOU CAN TAKE ALL OF THAT

AMBITION AND ACTUALLY REACHYOUR MAXIMUM POTENTIAL FOR

BEING AWESOME THANKS TO THEOPEN INTERNET.

>> Stephen: YOU'RE AWISEMAN.

ALEXIS OHANIAN.

THE BOOK IS WITHOUT THEIRPERMISSION.

ALEXIS, WE'LL BE R

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