Matthew Weiner

  • Aired:  05/20/14
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Matthew Weiner chats about the final season of "Mad Men" and offers insight into the complex and often troubled personality of Don Draper. (6:50)

>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK,EVERYBODY! MY GUEST TONIGHT

CREATED "MAD MEN." WE'LL HE'SABOUT TO MEET ANGRY MAN.

PLEASE WELCOME MATTHEW WEINER!

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)HEY!

GREAT TO SEE YOU!

>> GREAT TO BE HERE.

.>> Stephen: HOW ARE YOU?

>> I'M GOOD, HOW ARE YOU?

.>> Stephen: I'M FINE, I'M ALITTLE EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE.

I'M A LITTLE SAD ABOUT WHATWE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT

BECAUSE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THEEND OF "MAD MEN" HERE.

THE FIRST HALF OF THE SEVENTHAND FINAL SEASON ENDS MAY 25,

AND THE SECOND HALF OF THE FINALSEASON IS NEXT YEAR.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: WHAT'SOCCASIONALLY KNOWN IN TV AS

"NEXT SEASON."

>> YES.

>> Stephen: OKAY, SO WAS ITYOUR IDEA OR THE NETWORK'S TO

SPLIT THE SEASON IN HALF AND --MILK IT?

(LAUGHTER)DOES DON WORK ON A DAIRY FARM

IN THE FINAL EPISODE? WHY BREAKIT IN HALF?

>> THEY DID THIS WITH "BREAKINGBAD."

THEY SPLIT THE LAST TWO SEASONSFOR AN ORGANIC REASON WHICH IS

THAT VINCE COULDN'T MAKE THESCHEDULE, SO THEY HAD EIGHT ONE

YEAR AND EIGHT THE NEXT YEAR ANDTHE SHOW BUILT IN A HUGE WAY.

>> Stephen: IT'S BEEN ON FORSEVEN SEASONS.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN DESCRIBEWHAT HAS HAPPENED, OKAY?

LET ME SUMMARIZE IT.

DON SMOKED, BANGED EVERYTHING ONTHE EASTERN SEABOARD, AND

CALIFORNIA, SOLD SOME SOAP, WASGRIM ABOUT IT.

AND SMOKED SOME MORE.

IS HE A CRITICISM OF THEAMERICAN MALE?

BECAUSE I'M AN AMERICAN MALE ANDSHOULD BY TAKING THIS

PERSONALLY?

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S MEANT AS ANEGATIVE THING.

I ALWAYS SORT OF THOUGHT THAT HEWAS ABOUT THE SORT OF SPLIT

MESSAGE THAT THE AMERICAN MALEGETS, THAT YOU ARE TOLD THAT

YOU -- TO BE ATTRACTIVE -- ONTHE ONE HAND, YOU HAVE TO BE,

LIKE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE LEAGUECOACH AND, LIKE, P.T.A. GUY,

GREAT HUSBAND, GREAT DAD.

ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU ARESUPPOSED TO SMOKE AS MUCH,

DRINK AS MUCH AND GET LAIDAS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

>> Stephen: AND GET THE OTHERGUY.

>> AND BE CARNIVOROUS INBUSINESS.

>> Stephen: RIGHT.

THOSE TWO THINGS, I'M ALWAYSSURPRISED HOW MUCH PEOPLE GET

OFF ON HIM WINNING, BUT I DON'TJUDGE HIM AT ALL.

NONE OF THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AJUDGEMENT OF THE AUDIENCE.

>> Stephen: I WAS AFRAID HEWAS JUDGING ME.

WHEN THE SHOW STARTED, HE WAS ASHINY OBJECT, FUN, SEXY, BUT AS

IT GOES ON, HE BECOMES AN EVENMORE COMPLEX CHARACTER.

WHY PRESENT SOMETHING COMPLEX?

WHY CAN'T I JUST BE KIND OF FUNAND SEXY, YOU KNOW, GOOD LOOKING

GUY AND THEN TAKE ALL THAT INNERLIFE AND JUST KEEP IT DOWN UNTIL

ONE DAY IT JUST KILLS ME ANDTHEN, YOU KNOW, MY LOVED ONES

READ MY LETTERS AND CRY FOREVER?

(LAUGHTER)THAT IS A SERIES.

>> WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED IS AGOOD SERIES.

>> Stephen: THIS IS 1969.

YEAH.

>> Stephen: ARE YOU ENDING THESHOW BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID TO

SHOW '70s FASHIONS?

(LAUGHTER)ARE YOU TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO

SHOW FRINGE AND LEISURE SUITS?

>> IT GETS PRETTY BAD PRETTYSOON, I HAVE TO SAY,

HAVING GROWN UP IN THAT PERIOD,MY DAD HAD A GIANT RED MUSTACHE

HE USED TO WEAR BOWLING SHOESAND A MAROON BLAZER.

THAT'S MY DAD. MY MOM'S STUFFWAS MORE INSANE.

>> Stephen: WHAT COLOR WAS YOURMOTHER'S BEARD?

>> MY MOTHER HAD A LIGHTLYBLEACHED MUSTACHE.

>> Stephen: THAT'S NICE. THAT'SA VERY SWEET MEMORY FOR A

SON TO HAVE.

BUT OUR VISION OF THE 1960S,IT'S KIND OF A BEAUTIFIC VIEW.

WE EVEN HAVE SAINTED FIGURESTHROUGHOUT THE 1960s

WITH BOTH KENNEDYSAND KING.

BUT THIS VISION WE'RE GETTING OFINDIVIDUALS' LIVES IS NOT

NECESSARILY A HAPPY ONE.

DON'T YOU HAVE ANY HAPPYMEMORIES OF THE 1960s?

I WAS BORN IN 1964 AND 1969 WASSO HAPPY TO ME.

I WAS ALWAYS WITH MY MOM ANDLISTENING TO "THE ASSOCIATION"

ON THE RADIO.

(LAUGHTER)>> I WAS BORN IN '65 AND I

REMEMBER LISTENING TO SPANKY ANDOUR GANG AND MY DAD LISTENED TO

JUDY COLLINS.

NO, BUT I HAD A HAPPY MEMORY.

THERE IS A POSITIVE ELEMENT TOIT WHICH IS LIKE YOU RECOGNIZE

PARTS OF YOUR LIFE.

BUT I REALLY WANTED TO TELL THESTORY THAT OUR VIEW OF THE

'60s HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN BY ACERTAIN GENERATION THAT WAS EVEN

A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN YOU ANDI ARE.

AND THEY HAVE A VERY ROSYPICTURE --

>> Stephen: THE BABY BOOMERS.

YES.

>> Stephen: THEY WON'T LET USSTOP THINKING ABOUT THE 60s.

>> THEY THINK THEY INVENTED SEX,DRUGS, YOU KNOW.

>> Stephen: YEP.

THEY HAVE A VIEW OF ITTHAT IS A CHILD'S VIEW OF IT.

SO I WANTED TO SAY WHAT WOULD ITBE IF YOU WERE AN ADULT WHO

LIVE THROUGH FAIRLY INTERESTINGTHINGS LIKE WORLD WAR II AND THE

GREAT DEPRESSION AND THEN THISCOMES ALONG.

AND THERE WAS TREMENDOUS CHANGEAND THE CLICHE TURBULENCE AND

FREE LOVE.

BUT THERE WAS FREE LOVE IN THE1920s AND THE 1930s, THE

BEATNICK MOVEMENT OF THE 1950s.NO ONE INVENTED ANY OF THIS.

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED WAS THEREWAS A GENERATION THAT WAS ASKED

BUT THEY GOT EDUCATION, A LOT OFENTERTAINMENT, THEY GOT SPENDING

MONEY, THEY BECAME THE FOCUS OFTHE ECONOMY, OF

EVERYTHING, THERE WAS AWAR GOING ON WHICH THEY WERE

SUPPOSED TO FIGHT AND SOMEDIDN'T, BUT IN THE GENERATION

BEFORE THEM ALL OF THEM FOUGHT,AND THEY HAVE A VERY SORT OF

DEMANDING -- I EXPERIENCE IT INREAL LIFE.

THEY'LL COME UP AND SAY WHATHAPPENED TO THIS OR THAT?

AND I'M, LIKE, I'M NOT TELLINGYOUR STORY.

I'M TELLING THE STORY OF YOURPARENTS OR YOUR GRANDPARENTS.

SO I DON'T HAVE A JUDGMENT ONIT, NECESSARILY -- THAT SOUNDED

REALLY JUDGMENTAL, IT DID --(LAUGHTER)

I DON'T KNOW.>> Stephen: LOOK IN THE MIRROR,

MATTHEW.

>> YEAH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FORAN ENDING FOR THE SERIES, YOU

WORKED ON "THE SOPRANOS," OKAY.

>> YES.

>> Stephen: A GREAT ENDING TOTHIS SERIES "MAD MEN" WOULD BE

IF, IN THE LAST EPISODE, DONTURNED TO THE CAMERA AND

EXPLAINED THE ENDING OF "THESOPRANOS."

(LAUGHTER)(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, IT'S APLEASURE!

>> Stephen: MATT WEINER, "MADMEN" FINAL EPISODE, MAY 25TH

FOR THIS SEASON. WE'LL BE RIGHTBACK!

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